reply to post by Cuervo
I read yours and the previous posters' replies, and I just have to shake my head. It's like you really, truly think it's as simple as saying
"Okay, we're gong home, how." It's not. it really, truly, is not. It's very easy to start
a war... it's a very different thing to get
yourself out of one. Think back when you were a teenager... How easy was it to pick a fight with another guy your age? Probably pretty easy... was it
easy to back out of what your mouth just got your ass into? No.
I don't support the wars at all - and unlike the majority of the people now honking their crotches over Ron Paul, I never did. The reality is that we
are in there, we can't just roll up and go home overnight, and even if we could, the people currently holding the purse strings have absolutely no
interest in funding such an endeavor since, as you both clearly make the case, the longer we're there the worse it is for the president's political
Of course, neither of you have noted that the president is actually making the effort to get us out; we're withdrawing from iraq, and are in
negotiations to get out of Afghanistan without leaving too huge a mess... Of course in the politics of instant gratification, this sort of thing
doesn't even buzz your radar; you want it now, immediately, piping hot and no commercial interruptions. if it takes more than a day you can't be
bothered to look at it.
Now, all this being the case... the plain fact is that Ron Paul will be no more successful in ending these wars than the current guy is. I know, a lot
of you think the president is some sort of wizard, able to wave his wand and just make stuff happen... he's not. he can't. In fact with a Republican
in office, if the same party holds Congress, odds are the wars will be expanded
, if only indirectly by budgeting more money for "defense" (He
can veto all he wants, congress still has final say)
What Paul - and again, we assume, his Republican buddies in Congress - can
accomplish, however, is a complete destruction of the notion of "we
the people," in favor of "rule by wealth." Oligarchy is already a major corruption in our system, and all Paul and his "libertarian" policies
would do is rubber-stamp a return to the days when personal wealth was determined by how fast you could whip a man in the fields.Thus my comparison to
Oaxaca, where there is no middle class; only the ultra-wealthy and the very poor who live as serfs for them.
I pity Americans. At least the Titanic
sunk because of an accident
; Americans are so sure of their own indestructibility that they're
willing to ram the iceberg at full steam.