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Robert Welch Shocking Speeches With Amazing Foresight - If Only We Had Listened

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posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 10:20 AM
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The hairs on the back of my neck stand up when I hear the first speech, on this thread, given by Robert Welch and I have listened to it many times.

I ask my fellow ATS members to take a brief moment and listen to these speeches from the past, they will shock the very core of your being. So you think we were not warned? Think Again!

Everything he says in this speech has already happened, but was not even close to happening when the speech was given.

It is almost haunting to listen to his words of logic, wisdom and prophetic future events, because if the USA would have listened, then we may have not been in the dire straits we are in now. These speeches could have had a massive impact on todays Political Issues, but they fell on deaf ears.


He almost sounds like Ron Paul.



Now listen to his talk about the Vietnam War, does it sound familiar? hmmmm maybe Iraq and Afghanistan



Hence, because we are so complacent and because we don't listen and learn from the past are we doomed to repeat?
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posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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I watched the two, S&F, all of this is happening, and we are letting it.

This is no ones fault but ours, every citizen of the US of voting age is at fault we let this happen by listening to them, by buying into their wars and there race/class war tactics , and at this point it might just be to late.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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Benrl,

It is just amazing that someone could give a speech like that and have that much vision. You would think he making that speech about everything that is going on today.

Sigh!

I guess I have control over my world, and I am doing my best, staying aware, yet try not to over-react.


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posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 03:45 PM
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My family after they came here escaping the failed Hungarian Revolution in the 1950s became active members of the John Birch Society, I remember going to my grandfather’s house and on his mantle sat a picture of Robert Welch and Larry McDonald. He always told me to watch out for Communists, they are deceptive and like chameleons. According to him the ‘60s culture revolutions were fires set by the KGB and spread amongst the American public because the people here were foolish and easily manipulated.

I trust Robert Welch, Larry McDonald, and my grandfather, especially my grandfather. He lived under Communist rule in Hungary and Fascist rule; he should know what both look like.

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posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 04:13 PM
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Robert Welch,Made these predictions in 1958 about the future of America.. and his speech is frighteningly on target..Everything he is talking about is going on today maybe we wouldn't be in the mess were in now if we would have listened..S&F for this wonderful thread..



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 04:25 PM
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Thanks Misoir for sharing that personal tidbit with us.


I just can't believe that over 2 decades of his speeches and the Hippie movement, the majority were still apparently asleep.

What does it take to change the essence of men?



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 04:29 PM
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That speech is eery given the timing and content; it does lend credence to the prospect that (if not planned) then at the least, was foreseen as a possibility. Ominous...


ETA:

What does it take to change the essence of men?

Perhaps it is not meant to be changed?


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posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 09:34 PM
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I think your spot on.

Maybe it's all about experiences and some predestined events, for the lot of us.




posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 10:00 PM
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I wasn't referring to destiny or pre-determined fate... I was *suggesting that the essence of man is what makes Us ( humanity that is) who we are and perhaps that essence isn't meant to be changed. To do so would make us something else...



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 10:04 PM
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What can change the nature of man?...the question has always been open to philosophical input. As for the speech, seen it before and while it addresses many points it answers even less.
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posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 10:38 PM
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Having grown up and becoming somewhat aware of events in the 70's I do remember a concerted ostracizing of the John Birch Society at the time - "bunch of crazies seeing commie conspiracy behind every bush"

The release of the Verona papers as well as records from the USSR verified to my satisfaction they were right along with McCarthy about the level of infiltration and influence communist sympathizers had within our government and events of the era as well as the transmogrification of the U.S. into a more centralized, big government, socialist police state which we are now experiencing.

Its astounding that he predicted the Nixon Administrations wage and price controls a full 6 years ahead of time in the 1965 video - wow!

Anyway listening to his points sure is prescient some 36 to 46 years on - JBS no longer seems the radical right they were painted to be back then by watching these two videos. He sure called out the economic effects of bad policy and the resulting decline we now have.

Seems he had it figured out spot on way back then!

It seems to me as a longtime member that long term communist/socialist conspiracy is not well treated, received or discussed on ATS other than in heated immature postings that devolve into right vs. left.

Be nice to see this conspiracy subject treated in a more historical and enlightened way in view of today's issues - maybe just maybe we can chart just how the heck this country got to the state it is today by doing so.

As a general conspiracy it does seem to be Cloward-Piven like in the overloading of traditional systems in order to force a more socialistic nay even totalitarian system upon the U.S. as a method of population/policy control benefiting the elite PTB.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 10:43 PM
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While i think it is over reactionary and implausible that some massive conspiracy involving the 'commies' had taken root in American politics, i find it equally implausible that the soviet union simply 'collapsed' and that all those powerful and influential zealots with their on perverted take on communism simply vanished in to the ether.



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 11:01 PM
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Solomons,

Just go to wiki pages on "Verona papers" and research out from there just how badly the infiltration was and in what key positions were covered, I think you will find its not "reactionary" ( a suspect term in and of itself) to posit a long term conspiracy to corrupt our constitutional system as it existed before the great depression.

The JBS predicted the result quite well as posited by the OP of this thread.

Rightie/Lefty fallacy number one he called for all troops to come home in 65" so as not to perpetuate constant war theme of big government.

How's that for a so called "far, far, rightist" of the day! I would bet today you are one who would agree with that policy,

See how they have fooled us!



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by LadySkadi
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I wasn't referring to destiny or pre-determined fate... I was *suggesting that the essence of man is what makes Us ( humanity that is) who we are and perhaps that essence isn't meant to be changed. To do so would make us something else...


Ah but there is a paradox here Lady, as Solomons eludes to in his post. The philosophical debate on this issue has been waged for many years. I think we would first have to define the statement itself, which can spur endless debates.

Now too your thought filled statement.

LadySkadi wouldn't your suggestion that the essence isn't meant to be changed be a predetermination, meaning something that is already instilled in his/her makeup from birth?



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 07:57 AM
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I would agree with this 100%.

It is so easy to divide and conquer, we just need look at the past.

RT Sighs! then shakes head.



Originally posted by Phoenix

Rightie/Lefty fallacy number one he called for all troops to come home in 65" so as not to perpetuate constant war theme of big government.

How's that for a so called "far, far, rightist" of the day! I would bet today you are one who would agree with that policy,

See how they have fooled us!

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posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 04:23 PM
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Let me ask you this: would you not agree that pre-determined traits and pre-destined events are not one in the same?



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 04:50 PM
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the zionist protocols that you guys so want to claim is a hoax, mentions all of this too.....it's just hard for most people to read because of it's sentence structures....i gaurantee that if you were able to read and actually grasp the protocols, you would be just as amazed by them as you are these videos.......



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by LadySkadi
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Let me ask you this: would you not agree that pre-determined traits and pre-destined events are not one in the same?


Semantically I would say they are one in the same for the purpose of this argument.


Second line



posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 05:39 AM
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It amazes me that there isn`t pages and pages on this thread.
This is another one of those threads that should be kept open so more and more see the fore site this man had.



posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 06:51 AM
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That is the trouble 'deaf ears' - numerous people have been warning and warning, pointing this out with conclusive evidence, for a long long time, but the consensus normalcy bias groupthink is just too overwhelming for most people.

Even something like the Anotoly Golytsin revelations - were ignored by the CIA.

You simply have to conclude that this is a done deal - the whole of the power structure in the US has been compromised in this undertaking - the one and only thing that could make a difference is a grassroots movement like the Tea Party.



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