They call Lucifer the Prince of Lies. A lie is defined by the Christian as anything which contradicts the Word of God - as told to us by the Bible and
God's representatives on Earth. If we accept this definition of a lie then we should praise lies. A "lie" is then a questioning of blind dogma. The
"lies" of Lucifer are attacks on irrational beliefs, beliefs based on fear and conformity to authority. Of course we should not call these lies. They
are temptations to think for ourselves, a call for independent thought, a plea for taking responsibility for our own thinking and our own lives.
Praise Lucifer! Praise the pursuit of truth through rationality. God was right to tell us to not worship false idols, but he refrained from telling us
that all idols are false, and that all worship is dangerous. Even our praise of Lucifer must not be worship of an idol, but rather an expression of
our agreement with his value-orientation and his perspective.
God and his Godists hate Lucifer's call for rationality. Critical thinking digs at the very roots of God's and their power over our minds. Independent
thinkers do not make good slaves. Lucifer is the Prince of Lies because he is an expert at helping us to be rational. He shows us how to use our
intelligence and how to take responsibility for ourselves. We should emulate him in encouraging this trend in ourselves and in others. He needs help
since he is working against the laziness and neuroticism of many humans. It's so much easier to just not try to think, to sit back and let other
people tell you what you should do, what to believe, and where to give your money. Why, if I had to think for myself I would have to face the fact
that I might be wrong. Horrors! I would have to think carefully about my life and the reality that I live in carefully and that would take a lot of
work. No, it's much easier to have faith, to accept, to believe, to obey.
God also hates us to enjoy ourselves, If we let ourselves experience too much pleasure then we might lose interest in obeying him. We might start
running our own lives to bring us positive rewards rather than directing ourselves to avoid his wrath. We might become focused on pursuing the
positive instead of avoiding the negative. That would result in the downfall, of religious and state authority, so God has to stamp out such
tendencies. He hates Lucifer who keeps turning up and tempting us to have a good time, to enjoy our lives. Adam and Eve's sin was to eat of the fruit
of the tree of knowledge. They dared to disobey a direct order which God expected them to obey without question, blindly. They acquired reason and
intelligence, and an ability to decide for themselves the values that they would pursue. Ever since them humans have been uppity - always giving God
trouble. Dammit, even some of the Catholics are questioning the Pope's infallibility. Well that's just tough God; some of us are going to do our best
to see that humans continue to become even more difficult to handle - both by you and by your human followers on Earth - the religious authorities and
God likes altruism, altruism understood as true self-sacrifice and not as giving up a minor value to achieve a more important one (which is just one
aspect of rationality). If God can just get us all to be good altruists then we will be so much easier to control. Altruists do what they are told
without complaint; a complaint would be based in self-interest; it would be a claim to live one's own life without having to direct it towards the
lives of others or towards the interests of God or "the State". Lucifer perseveres in trying to point out to us that we have no reason to accept
altruism. We can choose our values for ourselves, just as we can think for ourselves. Lucifer himself values the pursuit of happiness, knowledge, and
new experiences. Most of all he values self-responsibility and independence even if that means that some people will not choose to value the things
that he values. The extropians among us who share his perspectives and value- orientation should help him in his work.
God had a clever and nasty strategy to promote altruism and therefore obedience. He tries to get us to believe in Original Sin. He wants us to believe
that we are born sinful, that we were evil and needed saving even before we had done anything. We need God and his agents to save us from Sin
otherwise we will burn FOREVER and we will miss out on an infinite and perfect reward (though he never tells us just what this is). Our path to
salvation lies in service to God, selfless self-sacrificial service to God and his dogma. Without the idea of original sin we might not be so careful
to obey God since we might figure that we were living pretty well and would go to heaven anyway (foolishly failing to inquire what heaven is like).
Fortunately for God, Original Sin guarantees that we will always feel under threat. We will always be unclean and in danger of suffering hellfire.
To make quite sure that our personal responsibility is destroyed, and that we put ourselves in God's hands for him to mold us as he wishes, God and
his moronic minions repeatedly tells us that Jesus Christ is the Way and that he died for our sins. Redemption lies through faith and obedience.
Notice what happens when Christ supposedly died for our sins. His act brought about our possibility of salvation. What I want to know is: how can
someone else's act excuse me from anything? I am responsible for my own actions. Nothing that I do can take away the fact that someone else acting in
a certain way, and nothing that they can do can absolve me of my own responsibility. Original Sin and salvation by Christ are both deeply offensive
ideas to me and to all extropians who value individual responsibility.
In ending this discussion, I want to remind you that you are all Popes. You are all you own highest authority. You are the source of your action. You
choose your values - whether you do so actively or by default. You choose what to believe, how strongly to believe, and what you will take as
dis-confirming evidence. No one has authority over you - you are your own authority, your own value-chooser, your own thinker. Join me, join Lucifer,
and join Entropy in fighting God and his entropic forces with our minds, our wills, and our courage. God's army is strong, but they are backed by
ignorance, fear, and cowardice. Reality is fundamentally on our side. Forward into the light!
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