60,000 Americans Killed in Underground NWO Base: NWO at War contra Its People & Whole Wide World, page 3
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reply posted on 21-9-2011 @ 01:22 PM by mudbeed
reply to post by ignant



Benjamin Fulford is that guy that lives in Japan right? Yeah he's a fricking liar and a looney.

A proven fraud.

Icke sucks too.

Damn the story is pretty cool though.... too bad it's fake.

Put this in Skunkworks next time.


reply posted on 21-9-2011 @ 01:31 PM by Aestheteka
reply to post by Beamish



Regardless of the subject matter (I'm no fan of David Wilcox), 50,000 people going walkabout and disappearing is a tiny number when, on average, there are 2300 filed missing persons reports per day in the US. I said filed. The true figure is far higher as many go unreported. At present, the annual number is approx. 900,000.

Source - 2300 a day

Carefully selected 'volunteer employees' without living relations wouldn't be missed by anyone.


reply posted on 21-9-2011 @ 01:41 PM by Snippy23
reply to post by fah0436



Why would anybody think that 'insiders' would tell David Wilcock anything, when he's just going to exchange everything he hears for money? This is a line so many ranters - Jones, Icke etc - use, that they are given secret information by sources whose views they so publicly oppose. Why would that happen?

We're not really talking about him having secret, true information, are we? We're talking about him sustaining and feeding a dumb hoax from an established hoaxer, and I don't see how the supposed cruel death of 60,000 people is so exciting that it can support two threads on ATS. Random death just isn't that great, is it?


reply posted on 21-9-2011 @ 02:32 PM by fah0436
Originally posted by Snippy23
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post by fah0436



Why would anybody think that 'insiders' would tell David Wilcock anything, when he's just going to exchange everything he hears for money? This is a line so many ranters - Jones, Icke etc - use, that they are given secret information by sources whose views they so publicly oppose. Why would that happen?

We're not really talking about him having secret, true information, are we? We're talking about him sustaining and feeding a dumb hoax from an established hoaxer, and I don't see how the supposed cruel death of 60,000 people is so exciting that it can support two threads on ATS. Random death just isn't that great, is it?



Wilcock says he screens his covert sources VERY carefully and does not pay them and double checks what they say. He makes his money from lectures, books and donations, and does not trade money for info.

As to insider motives, there is a war going on for peoples minds everyday. This thread certainly points to two radically different sides.There are always those that sold their soul and thought the were helping the government and later found out the government is hurting us. Those people want these stories to come out. Thats mostly what this site is about - giving those people such an opportunity. ANd YES - they are risking their lives (if not already one of the 60,000 dead), so I would definitely listen to what they have to say,
If you can disprove it, go for it. With all the secrecy, this thread is unlikely be proven true in the short term.


reply posted on 21-9-2011 @ 02:41 PM by fah0436
Originally posted by malcr
Originally posted by Beamish
60, 000 people killed...

Ok. Let's do a little speculative math, shall we?

Perhaps 45,000 of them have two siblings................................90, 000
Perhaps they all have one living parent.....................................60, 000
Perhaps they all have at least two aunts/uncles......................120, 000
Perhaps half of them are married.............................................30, 000
Perhaps half of them have at least two chldren..........................60, 000
Perhaps they all have at least four friends................................240, 000

Potentially six hundred thousand family etc. out there missing these people and there is no massive public outcry?

Oh, please...


And the unpaid bills, the homes etc. All of which increases the chances of somebody noticing. Some of those 60,000 will know the same person and/or have the same family members.

No chance in hell can 60,000 disappear at the same time without being noticed.

Anyway any nuclear explosion is detectable around the world by the increase in radioactive particles in the atmosphere.


You're over looking the fact that these DUMBs are SELF CONTAINED CITIES, deliberately and intentionally cut off from the rest of society.The people that volunteered to go there have more that likely had there identities erased (with records just computer data, easy to do) and told their relatives that they would be incommunicado indefinitely (maybe an occasional letter). Yes - they could remain dead and/or missing for quite sometime with nobody asking questions.
edit on 9/21/2011 by fah0436 because: typos



reply posted on 21-9-2011 @ 03:15 PM by Luke2089
reply to post by muzzleflash



lol read my post im sure a few ppl on this site wuld have some friends missin if 60k americans jus gt blown away culd neva happen 60,000 disapper neva!


reply posted on 21-9-2011 @ 03:35 PM by muzzleflash
I just listed to the entire interview at the source site.

Very interesting. I started to look up some of Ben's claims and they are matching up pretty good. They usually do fairly often.

Neutron bombs are real, and are actually many decades old.
Wiki

The "usual" nuclear weapon yield—expressed as kT TNT equivalent—is not a measure of a neutron weapon's destructive power. It refers only to the energy released (mostly heat and blast), and does not express the lethal effect of neutron radiation on living organisms. Compared to a fission bomb with the identical explosive yield, a neutron bomb would emit about ten times[3] the amount of neutron radiation


ER weapons are meant to kill a much higher percentage of enemy personnel inside such protected environments through the release of a higher percentage of their yield in the form of neutron ionizing radiation, against which even tank armor is not very effective.


So it's a bomb that kills primarily by radiation poisoning rather than by explosive force. Learn something new every day.

Oh and another reason I am interested in these theories of underground invisible wars, is because of the strange seismic activity in West -Central Texas. Link to thread about it Also there was one in Birmingham Alabama recently which was odd.

The supposed fault line in the nearby region hasn't been active for millions of years according to the information I've found so far. There are problems with the hydraulic fracturing hypothesis and so I am open to all types of suggestions. The underground base nuke war is just as good if not better than the others.



reply posted on 21-9-2011 @ 04:02 PM by Wrabbit2000
I hate to be the skeptic here again..but there are a few issues with this whole concept of HUGE underground cities populated with 10's of thousands of people sitting below us. I have no problem with the idea of very extensive underground Government facilities and bases. Cheyenne Mountain is a little hard to debunk, and that was OLD technology which created it, for instance. There is even a picture here of what an Air Force machine looked like in the early 80's out at the Nevada Test Site. There are a couple questions though.....

I'll pass entirely on how 60,000 people died without a single public voice being raised. Others have more than covered that..but what about the 'blasts'? As I understand it, nuclear detonations are not vague or hard to identify on a siesmic reading. This article would seem to cover the details of how that works.

Perhaps a Neutron weapon then? Well, I seem to recall reading that Neturon weapons make a very small blast. Certainly no Earthquake. It would defeat the whole purpose for why that weapons class came into being. The Encyclopedia confirmed what I'd thought about how they work in blast effect...or lack of it.

So how could these enormous city-bases have been destroyed below our feet and not leave a signature that scientists or these days, internet educated laymen, could read and immediately see for what it was? The theory is really interesting, but I fail to see how it can translate into being an event in the real world as it's said to have happened?


reply posted on 21-9-2011 @ 05:08 PM by Lawgiver
reply to post by Aestheteka



i agree with you. people go missing everyday. i don't believe the underground nuclear explosion explanation. however, the idea of approaching individuals with "for the good of mankind, the u.s. government, and our way of life" argument, its quite possible many if not all would do their duty.
i would hope that if anyone here on ats was approached, they would diligently report. but then again, they are watching, aren't they.
while reading the responses and the cited materiels, one can actually feel a palpitation of sorts..."could it be real?" . its a fun read to be sure.
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