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Is It Hippocritical For Tea Partiers To Collect Welfare?

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posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 10:10 PM
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I was at the welfare office and I overheard a social worker get into to it with a client who started hating on Obama and mentioned they were a tea party member. The worker was all "oh how can you be a tea party member and blame Obama when you're in here asking for food stamps etc."

Was he right? Either way I felt it was poor customer service.

What do you think?
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posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 10:11 PM
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1. Because the TP member wants FS to be run by their state, not by the centralized government.

2. Because the enslaved don't know how to function as free men.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 10:13 PM
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Most likely no, if they need government assistance its because of unemployment, or they find themselves in a bind that's out of there control, or because of all the illegal immigrants fault.

Not like the other lazy worthless people in the system.
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posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 10:20 PM
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I can't blame anyone, Tea Partier or not, for taking something that is freely given. The system itself is broken. if their contribution to burdening the system helps bring it down so we can finally get back to reality, then more power to them.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 10:25 PM
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well whatever anyone thinks

i think its hypocritical for lefties to ever call them out on it

because they are after all fighting for everyone to be enslaved on a government paycheck

with the same pay for the rest of their life theres tomorrows no better than today or yesterday.

my 2 cents



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 10:29 PM
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My partner works for the Department of Human Services. I can guarantee that political statements don't make a difference. It's all about "means testing" for benefits. Don't believe everything you hear.
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posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 10:32 PM
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That person is no tea party member,... no tea party person would rely on the government to provide for them... the government is just good at stealing from Americans.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 10:34 PM
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i don't think its hypocritical at all. Considering a very large portion of poor and working poor have been created since deregulation of the banking industry -

and free trade agreements

and flat wages

and less buying power

Go figure.

But the tea party was hijacked by the rich, or did you not get the memo.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 10:34 PM
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No, a lot of TPs don't have a problem with SOME welfare. Just like not all Republicans believe exactly the same thing, nor all Democrats, neither do TPs.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 10:37 PM
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Not nearly as hypocritical as a person who has never bothered to get a job and lived off the system to demand more from those who do work.

Not nearly as hypocritical as a person who criticizes those who pay in their whole lives for asking for help when they themselves have never contributed.

The really dumb part though is being so in a Parties pocket that you hate people simply because they believe differently. Then it changes from hypocritical to being a bigot. That and allowing either the Republican or the Democratic Party to tell you what to think and believing either one is any worse or better than the other.

Both sides use the same game plan. Keep you hating your neighbor to control you while throwing you bones to buy your vote, while knowing many are gullible enough to fall for it if not most.

In this case I find it amusing Obama cannot win without the illiterate and young vote. Makes him no worse than his opposition, but interesting to note how each side plays the game and how many fall for it.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 10:42 PM
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Originally posted by thisisnotaname
I was at the welfare office and I overheard a social worker get into to it with a client who started hating on Obama and mentioned they were a tea party member. The worker was all "oh how can you be a tea party member and blame Obama when you're in here asking for food stamps etc."

Was he right? Either way I felt it was poor customer service.

What do you think?
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I've often wondered what a Tea Party member would do if/when they needed the very same government assistance they blame everything on. They just point the finger a little more to the left.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 10:49 PM
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We have all been pushed to the brink with the insane ecomic policies of politicians, especially the current occupier. I have never seen this type of inflation. It's just insanity. Even the most avid T Partier is trapped by this economic downturn. Joblessness is really rampant. We are all in trouble and we have an out of touch group of crooks and thugs running things.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 10:50 PM
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Again not all TP members have a problem with welfare. They have a problem with how it is run. When you have a problem with organization, but not the product, you'll still use the services.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 11:02 PM
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It's hypocritical for TPM member to call on others to not rely on outside assistance, be self reliant and take personal responsibility when they themselves are standing in line at the welfare office or applying for food stamps or other assistance from the state.
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posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 11:11 PM
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If a thief steals your money is it hypocritical of you to ask that thief for some of it back?

The answer to your question is: it depends.

If a tea party member has taken out more than they put in, then that is hypocrisy.
If a tea party member has put in more than they have taken out, then that is not hypocrisy.

Stealing is taking without asking. I learned this when I was six years old. When I was about 16, I learned that taxation is taking without asking.

I'm not a Tea Party member any more. I was a tea party supporter up until tea-party was re-defined by the news media as meaning "racist Republican". I'm not a racist and I'm not a Republican. So I can't be a tea party member any more. Hopefully there will be a day when complete jerks stop allowing the mainstream media to re-define things to mean something completely different. Until then, I'll keep changing what I call my self.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 11:14 PM
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No. It is not. Perhaps they just became a Tea Party member, (or not) whatever their reasons, it's really none of our business.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 11:26 PM
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Seachange - you give me hope for the future. We need more of your kind.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 11:29 PM
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no tea party person would rely on the government to provide for them


Right, Tea partiers, like most right wingers, are all about getting tax money out of the government, while trying to cut benefits for everyone else and skip out on paying their share.

They have no right to take government assistance while vilifying the same government and everyone else who gets any kind of benefit from them.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 11:53 PM
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Yes. To a TP member, no, it's not. It's stealing from society to benefit oneself. It's the old Ayn Rand philosophy that selfishness is good. However, it's only good if you steal from someone else, if they steal from you, it's bad.

Look through some of the earlier posts here, it becomes justified because, hell, everyone else is getting 'free' money, I will too!

Tea partiers don't look at the government as the representation of society, they view it as some external force that's only out to get them. Look at the polling numbers, republicans swept up in 2010 and yet, congress is at it's lowest approval rating ever.



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 02:05 AM
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Yes they are hypocrites. The tea partiers on medicare are hypocrites as well. You cannot claim to be part of a movement that opposes government involvement in welfare and healthcare, labels them communist or socialist, and then take in those very government benefits. It's hypocrisy alright, but likewise, tea partiers will always find a way to spin it.

It's not just tea party members themselves, GOP presidential candidates are reluctant to call for the privatization of medicare during their administrations. They talk about transitioning out of it once the babyboomer generation is done with it, but how long will that be? 4 years? 8 years? Right, they'll be long out by the time some poor sob of a president needs to follow through with it, at the wrath of the public.

If you believe that healthcare is not a right, that welfare is unconstitutional and for the lazy, then you shouldn't be on it if you well and truly stand for those beliefs. Simple.




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