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Avoiding Artificial Sweeteners? This Study Will Surprise You...

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posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 05:07 PM
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For those of you who are aware of the health dangers posed by artificial sweeteners and dutifully avoid them, the featured study findings may come as a shocking surprise...

Researchers have found that the artificial sweetener sucralose (Splenda) is a widespread contaminant in waste water, surface water, and ground water. In a recent test, water samples from 19 U.S. drinking water treatment plants serving more than 28 million people were analyzed for sucralose. The sweetener was found to be present in:
The source water of 15 out of 19 of drinking water treatment plants tested

The finished water of 13 out of 17 plants, and

In 8 out of 12 water distribution systems
The average amounts of sucralose in source water and finished water was 440 ng/L and 350 ng/L respectively.



According to the study:
"Further, in the subset of [drinking water treatment plants] with distribution system water sampled, the compound was found to persist regardless of the presence of residual chlorine or chloramines ... The results of this study confirm that sucralose [is] an indicator compound ... for the presence of other recalcitrant compounds in finished drinking water".


Jesus, there is no escaping these horrible products.

I purposely avoid anything with these artificial sweeteners in them as they are horrible for you, but to find out they are in our water is terrible. The water we cook, bath, brush our teeth and drink with is poisoned with these chemical compounds.

I really would like to see a test about how many prescription drugs they can find in drinking water....

And they wonder why more and more people are getting sick.

We really ruin everything.

Any thoughts?

Pred...




posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 05:11 PM
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I've completely stopped drinking diet drinks due to finding out what poisons they really are. I read somewhere that they contribute to vertigo and unfortunately i suffered a really bad episode a few years ago. I was starting to become addicted to them and i noticed the dizzyness return when i would drink too much diet sodas. Now, I use Stevia.

I shiver every time i see someone guzzle down a Diet Coke



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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It is not a war anymore..it is a slaughter.

Peace



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 05:28 PM
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Hi. Thanks for the information.

Like many, I was aware of the dangers of artificial sweeteners but was unaware about it lurking in the water supply, although it's not surprising really at all. Much like the waste product sodium fluoride being put in some water supplies even though it was used in rat poison for years. Plus the warnings about not swallowing toothpaste containing fluoride.
Artificial sweeteners should be banned or at least contain warnings to help educate the sheeple.

Cheers



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 05:29 PM
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Jesus - that is amazingly terrible. I wonder if they do the same in the UK? I hope not, but I have this strange feeling that they do. It's horrible to think that they know exactly what these products do, yet continue to... poison us.

Sickening.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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too much splenda was giving me really bad headaches a few years ago so I stopped using it and switched to mainly water or tea to drink instead of diet soda's. Now I usually just use stevia or honey when sweetening items.
Oh just checked out an article on Yahoo 4 best & 3 worst sweeteners to have in your kitchen


Expect to see more stevia on store shelves, as Coke and Pepsi got the green light to use Truvia (a sweetener made in part from stevia) starting later this year.


Looks like I might be able to have a diet soda every once in a while
edit on 20-9-2011 by kittendaydreamer because: just read an article on yahoo that applied to the diet soda thing



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 05:52 PM
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Diet pop tastes like chemicals, I don't know how anyone drinks it. And I found after not drinking regular pop after a week or so, after drinking it again... it tastes like chemicals as well and not sweet anymore
edit on 9/20/2011 by mnmcandiez because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 05:56 PM
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My granddad put sucrose sweetener in his tea everyday and lived to 86. Wouldn't chance it myself but that's a fact. So go figure.

edit on 20-9-2011 by eyespying because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 06:13 PM
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Mega corporations are working on getting artificial sweeteners across the board labelled as "natural flavor". Also be careful since some soda, like Shasta, is putting sucralose along with corn syrup into there regular non-diet soda.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 06:27 PM
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Truth is always better I think. I like it anyway.

Sucralose is digestible by a many microorganisms once released into the environment. Even though waste water treatment does not remove it, it poses no environmental risks. OK, no problem there.

100 animal and clinical studies showed no health risks to consuming sucralose. Again no issue.

1 study that used the equivalent of ten thousand of those packets per day for a human on mice found the possibility of genetic damage Hmmmm, I have to wonder how many people are using over ten thousands packets a day? Any of you doing that or know somebody doing that? In fact its less toxic than water. A few die from drinking too much water too fast in a year, but nobody dies from a Splenda overdose. If the alternative is real sugar, its way more dangerous. Even eating too much fruit is more dangerous.

Info from sites peddling fake health products to unsuspecting customers push the charade, using fear in the same way the government uses fear to control behavior. Scare you with an article, sell you a bottle of something that does nothing for a thousand times their cost and they call it a good day. It's also works to sell worthless books and peddle magazines targeted at the same audience. Or, as in the case of this site, they sell you plain old vitamins for hugely inflated prices. They are so overpriced they devote entire pages to explaining why their product, no better than any other is worth many times the price of what are likely better products from reputable companies.

"Nobody ever lost a dime underestimating the intelligence of the American public" (I've seen this quote attributed to P. T. Barnum and others, not sure which is true).

I find the snake oil peddlers and charlatans to be particularly horrible people considering they use fear to trick people into making unwise purchases, along with gimmicks to make you think their stuff is better somehow. Generally their products are more dangerous in fact and often don't have reliable doses. It's about emptying your wallet, not your health.

If you have to choose between a Harvard Study or one done by Dr. (fill in name here) with his Degree from the Denver Institute of Crap (Denver has had a number of phony institutes where you could buy a Degree over the years, beware those who call themselves Dr.) where they bought the degree, go with the Harvard Study. Do yourselves a favor. There are plenty of real issues on these topics, don't let the fake ones empty your wallet.

As to Stevia, it has in fact been banned in many places on earth as it is not known if it is harmful as some early studies showed. It's kind of a take it at your own risk product that is likely safe. Not all natural things are safer just because they are natural. The EU banned it in food. I admit I use it in some kinds of tea where it works. It is bitter and does not work well in all beverages due to the aftertaste. Works well in red sauces though to replace the sugar from wine if you have no wine on hand.

Please find your own sources from reputable sites that are not trying to sell you something for your own protection. I looked heavily into sweeteners a while back and most of what is on the snake oil sites is pure old fashioned garbage. There are even less than honest real MD's peddling crap. Having an MD does not automatically make you honest nor does it stop the person from peddling snake oil.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by eyespying
My granddad put sucrose sweetener in his tea everyday and lived to 86. Wouldn't chance it myself but that's a fact. So go figure.

edit on 20-9-2011 by eyespying because: (no reason given)


Sucrose is just sugar. Sucrose is not the poison Sucralose.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 06:34 PM
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Sucralose sounds safe to me... /sarcasm

www.vegan-nutritionista.com...



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by predator0187
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...In 8 out of 12 water distribution systems
The average amounts of sucralose in source water and finished water was 440 ng/L and 350 ng/L respectively.


Jesus, there is no escaping these horrible products.


Umm...yes.
My thoughts are as follows:

"ng/L" is nanogram per liter.
NANOGRAM.
Does anyone realize how ridiculously small that is?

That's approximately 0.00045 milligrams per liter.

Umm......a nanogram is one billionth of a gram.

No where near any amount I'd even consider dangerous or a health risk.
Not a big deal when they are testing for a billionth of a gram.
IN A LITER!

(and I don't use the sweetener at all...nor am I endorsing it)
I'm merely stating how small that amount is.
And how it's absolutely nothing to worry about.


Sugar is just fine.
Just like everything else in this world...moderation is key here.
So instead of feasting on diets full of sugar, they made chemicals that replace them.
Chemicals that are dangerous.

So use the real sweetener.

Sugar.






edit on 20-9-2011 by havok because: added more clarity




posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by GoldenVoyager
Sucralose sounds safe to me... /sarcasm

www.vegan-nutritionista.com...


I see that site chose to lie and not tell you that the Duke Study was improperly conducted and thrown out by anyone who reviewed it. Amazing how gullible activists are.

Don't forget to shop with Alicia. Don't be cheap, spend it all. Pretty isn't she? Send her that email and all your personal information so you too can save up to 60% on items they are so proud of they can't even post the info without your email address in hand. Share the Spam with us. Wait, I read the T&C's, you can't share the Spam you get after signing up. It's secret. My bad.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by blackmetalmistI shiver every time i see someone guzzle down a Diet Coke


Shiver? I strongly resist the urge to go on a crazy rant about the poison they're putting in their body.


Originally posted by Blaine91555
100 animal and clinical studies showed no health risks to consuming sucralose. Again no issue.

These are studies done by Johnson and Johnson in which they were looking for a specific result. After spending the R&D cash do you really think they didn't impress upon their staff that it was important that the toxicity results be negative? Do you think these corporations don't have lobbyists? I mean sure, typically I accept government corruption and corporate collusion as par the the American course and don't think much of it, but when it involves stuff that goes inside my body and passes through an area that at least ATTEMPTS to assimilate the materials passing through, I need to be a little cautious.

If you add that to the fact that sucralose makes me sick, I'll just avoid it, thanks. Of course now you're going to question the validity of my claim, and I'm going to have to immediately retort.

You see, I thought sucralose was the second coming of (insert whatever deity you feel apropos here, I'll go with Mustakrakish). Around 2005 all of my supplements switched from Aspertame, so it had to be better, right? Well, around this time I also started eating a lot more healthily, and I later learned that a lot of my lower carb foods were using it too (like bread, WTF?). After about 6 months worth of elimination experimentation (due to my more overarching correction in diet), I had to accept that my new lord and savior was destroying my health (if you're sick all of the time, you can't really live and certainly can't exercise). I am certain that sucralose is the problem, and I would be willing to go all in on a wager if a double blind study could be arranged. I've eaten that crap by accident and not known it, and after I get sick I can go back and find where I ate wrong, every damn time. I am a living sucralose detector.

And of course this has turned me into a conspiracy theorist in many ways. I try not to eat anything artificial now, and I'm convinced that Chuck Lorre is an elite Illuminati and Two and a Half Men is a horrendous plot to make us all retards. Where are the Dentons when you need them?



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 08:51 PM
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I go with studies from reputable sources and reject studies by people within the clearly corrupt health food and supplement industry. In part for something you point out.

A few years ago I got it into my head one day to read the ingredients on the stuff in health food stores. What I found was there are many, many names for sugar and the so called health food and suplements actually had more in many cases than just regular old food.

I nearly got tossed from a local large one for walking around writing down ingredients.

That one had a whole row of bottles of elixirs that were very expensive, touted to do many things. When I went home and started reviewing the list I made I found they all had sugars and then a bunch of innocuous stuff. The prices ranged from about $60 for a few ounces to a couple that were over $100. The more they cost the more sugar hidden by using other names. None of them had any reason to believe they would do anything beneficial beyond the makers claims.

I think its safe enough to have something with a little Splenda in now and then if you can't have sugar. Clearly too much of anything is bad as like I said even water becomes poison if you ingest too much all at once.

If it makes you sick, by all means don't eat it. Peanuts and Strawberries can kill some people even though they are harmless to me and most others. Same thing I'd say.
edit on 9/20/2011 by Blaine91555 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 08:55 PM
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The levels would be/are so low that it wouldn't impact health it's pretty safe to say. People that consume it regularly are the ones that would have something to worry about.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 08:59 PM
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Aspartame is bad for you, there are plenty of studies out there that prove it.

Ok, the amount is small, I was more disturbed with the fact that it is even in our drinking water. I'm not worried about the amount killing me, I'm worried that is going to be everywhere.


Pred...



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
Truth is always better I think. I like it anyway.

Sucralose is digestible by a many microorganisms once released into the environment. Even though waste water treatment does not remove it, it poses no environmental risks. OK, no problem there.

100 animal and clinical studies showed no health risks to consuming sucralose. Again no issue.

1 study that used the equivalent of ten thousand of those packets per day for a human on mice found the possibility of genetic damage Hmmmm, I have to wonder how many people are using over ten thousands packets a day? Any of you doing that or know somebody doing that? In fact its less toxic than water. A few die from drinking too much water too fast in a year, but nobody dies from a Splenda overdose. If the alternative is real sugar, its way more dangerous. Even eating too much fruit is more dangerous.

Info from sites peddling fake health products to unsuspecting customers push the charade, using fear in the same way the government uses fear to control behavior. Scare you with an article, sell you a bottle of something that does nothing for a thousand times their cost and they call it a good day. It's also works to sell worthless books and peddle magazines targeted at the same audience. Or, as in the case of this site, they sell you plain old vitamins for hugely inflated prices. They are so overpriced they devote entire pages to explaining why their product, no better than any other is worth many times the price of what are likely better products from reputable companies.

"Nobody ever lost a dime underestimating the intelligence of the American public" (I've seen this quote attributed to P. T. Barnum and others, not sure which is true).

I find the snake oil peddlers and charlatans to be particularly horrible people considering they use fear to trick people into making unwise purchases, along with gimmicks to make you think their stuff is better somehow. Generally their products are more dangerous in fact and often don't have reliable doses. It's about emptying your wallet, not your health.

If you have to choose between a Harvard Study or one done by Dr. (fill in name here) with his Degree from the Denver Institute of Crap (Denver has had a number of phony institutes where you could buy a Degree over the years, beware those who call themselves Dr.) where they bought the degree, go with the Harvard Study. Do yourselves a favor. There are plenty of real issues on these topics, don't let the fake ones empty your wallet.

As to Stevia, it has in fact been banned in many places on earth as it is not known if it is harmful as some early studies showed.


Truth? Who's truth? Sucralose is an artificial sweetener. Stevia is natural. Do a search on Stevia vs Sucralose will get you tons of conflicting results. Many good things for us are banned, in some places like electronic cigarettes, that in itself does not make Stevia bad. Sucralose has been shown to be a toxic poison according to some www.splendaexposed.com...

Generally I am against any sweetener that is not normal cane sugar. This issue is important to me because I have to use a something sweet for my do it yourself electronic cigarette juice. I cannot use sugar because it burns at very low temperatures instead of forming a vapor that is safe to inhale.

About that mouse.. how did they feed the equivalent of 10.000 packets a day to something that small? I weigh 140 lbs and am 5.4 and I don't think i could eat 10.000 packets a day. that mouse must be as big as an elephant.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 10:47 PM
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Shiver? I strongly resist the urge to go on a crazy rant about the poison they're putting in their body
.

I actually ended up slapping the Diet Cherry Coke out of my friends hand ,ahem, accidently. She got mad but after I told her why she understood. Ive informed all my friends and a few of them are now drinking regular soda. Not that its any better but at least isnt that hazardous to your health.

edit on 20-9-2011 by blackmetalmist because: (no reason given)




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