Am i the only one who supports Israel

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Swills
reply to post by beezzer

 

First of all, it was not us who took away this land from the Native Americans. It was a terrible thing that was done to them. Second, at least they were given compensation in the form of modern day casinos (woot), but that doesn't justify the damage the whiteman caused to them.

And look what happened, history was repeated again, by the whiteman. You'd think we would learn from our mistakes but it appears we only repeat them. Just because the whiteman did it to the Native Americans doesn't mean it's okay for the UN and Zionist to do it the Arabs. It's to stop repeating history.

Nice post but epic fail.

Its so easy to talk ympathetically when you're the victors, but playing the bleeding heart?

Kinda hypocritical.

No, you're fail is epic. In fact, everyone should just stop giving you attention in this thread, or any thread, because we are only feeding the Zionist troll.

You do not deserve that golden lining, in my opinion.

Btw, I would gladly give all of the USofA back to all the Native Tribes if it were up to me. I would rather live as my ancestors did then to live in this dirty, disgusting, self centered, manipulative country we call America.

reply to post by GovtFlu


I think ultimately, it boils down to certain groups that are pissed off that Israel does not join NATO and play by those rules.

Even yet, the real reasons could be lost in time and no one remembers what the hell they are fighting over.

Gotta love the zionist huggers trying to make it look good. We are not speaking of indian american, blacks, we talk israel here, stay on topic.
Maybe if they were not occupying stolen lands, killing its legitimate inhabitants and so on, people would not feel such hatred for those walking rats.

So in short, you may not be the only one supporting israel, even tho I cant see how you support them unless you live or have business there, its one of those things like the sports teams, you are no part of it, but you try to be part of something. My advice would be, get some friends with a bit of critical thinking, clearly you have none, and they may help you find some.

Originally posted by Skewed
reply to post by buster2010

 

Is this opinion or fact?
Considering two terrorists states such as Jordan and Syria were signing agreements that would affect Israel. I see it as a preemptive strike. After all, since the 6 day war what exactly has changed in Syria and Jordan, not much. It seems as if Israel should have done a better job in the first place or they need to go back and do it again.

It's not opinion it's fact. People can say whatever they want they can sign whatever they want. Until they actually did something Israel had no right to attack them.

reply to post by buster2010


So if I signed an agreement with all your neighbors to collectively make you leave your neighborhood you would not "attack" back in any way you could to stop us?

Yes, I believe you would.

Originally posted by Immune
May 1948 Israel was formed to provide a "safe" place for Jewish people to call home within the boundaries of Ancient Israel.. Since being reformed in 1948 it was attacked in 1963 in which it destroyed Egypt, Jordan and Syria in 6 days. Then in 1973 they fought off both Egypt and Syria again and since 1978 they have been under constant terrorist attacks killing many of their men women and children.Every time they strike back at the ones attacking them they are called criminals and promptly judged the bad guys The Israeli people live in constant fear of attacks they are surrounded by countries who refuse to even acknowledge their existence as a state. The Palestinians have blatantly said when they achieve statehood they will throw every Jew out of their borders. Wouldn't everyone love to have a neighbor who openly is disgusted with your existence. As for the West bank and Gaza strip if i was Israel i wouldn't give them to the Palestinians the land was won in the 6 day war which they did not start to the victor goes the spoils if not the turkey needs to give back the land in Cyprus that they won in 1974. Israel is in a real bad place they attack the terrorist attacking them and they are the bad guys,they get attacked and they are still the bad guys keep up the fight Israel and stand firm don't negotiate with the terrorist.

With respect you sound like someone who doesn't know much about the true position of the Israeli's.
Your view is naive and one sided.

Israel could make peace if she desired it. Instead they expand EVERY day.
Benjamin Netanyahu is nothing more than a Nazi, as are his followers.
They have become the beast they were being persecuted by. (Nazi Germany).

The abused becomes the abuser. So true Israel, so true.

It's so obvious to see as well, either Israel makes peace or sooner or later she dies.

reply to post by beezzer


No you are not. You are bouncing the important thing that is going on right now in the Holy Land.... which is GENOCIDE. The Jews are ethnically cleansing "their land".

What makes Albanians different from Arabs?!?!?!

Oh ya, they are brown and inferior!!!

Originally posted by Swills
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No, you're fail is epic. In fact, everyone should just stop giving you attention in this thread, or any thread, because we are only feeding the Zionist troll.

Sure, faced with facts, fall back on hateful rhetoric.

You do not deserve that golden lining, in my opinion.

So I'm not allowed to have an opinion? Isn't freedom of speech just peachy!

Btw, I would gladly give all of the USofA back to all the Native Tribes if it were up to me. I would rather live as my ancestors did then to live in this dirty, disgusting, self centered, manipulative country we call America.

edit on 20-9-2011 by Swills because: (no reason given)

Then give up your home. RIGHT NOW! DO IT! Prove it!
Or else?

-meh-

Just another angry anti-semetic poster.

reply to post by UnaChispa
Prove it.

Justify it.
NOW.

Rhetoric is easy. Backing it up with unbiased facts is kinda hard.

reply to post by beezzer


"I'll ask you the same question then. Gonna give it back to the indians? I Don't Think So. "

Besides that being the weakest analogy on the internet.. compare living conditions on 'Indian reservations' -Vs- Palestinians.. then get back to us with a full report. Last I checked Hopis don't face daily sniper fire from occupying forces, and all that blockade / bulldozer stuff.

That puny area of dirt is considered "holy land" by hocus pocus gobbledygook voodoo salesmen from multiple flocks.. stealing it from locals who are religiously invested.. then expecting peace to break-out.. is rank stupidity.. yet advantageous to elitists who thrive on division & profit on strife / human suffering.

About as smart as placing a bobbed-wire clad Crips lemonade stand in a Bloods neighborhood.

Originally posted by GovtFlu
reply to post by beezzer

 

"I'll ask you the same question then. Gonna give it back to the indians? I Don't Think So. "

Besides that being the weakest analogy on the internet.. compare living conditions on 'Indian reservations' -Vs- Palestinians.. then get back to us with a full report. Last I checked Hopis don't face daily sniper fire from occupying forces, and all that blockade / bulldozer stuff.

That puny area of dirt is considered "holy land" by hocus pocus gobbledygook voodoo salesmen from multiple flocks.. stealing it from locals who are religiously invested.. then expecting peace to break-out.. is rank stupidity.. yet advantageous to elitists who thrive on division & profit on strife / human suffering.

About as smart as placing a bobbed-wire clad Crips lemonade stand in a Bloods neighborhood.

Then why do you care? To complain only reinforces the anti-sematic (politically acceptable) rage that is pervalent throughout the internet.

reply to post by beezzer


Tea Party Member wanting people to do outrageous things? I guess that is par for the course.
I used to have respect for you.
I refuse to argue with idiots. I'm out of here. This is like beating a dead horse.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by UnaChispa

 

Prove it.

Justify it.
NOW.

Rhetoric is easy. Backing it up with unbiased facts is kinda hard.

You shout very loudly, but can you justify the billions per year America
gives to Israel?

Without it Israel would be dead by now.

American money, while your own a living in poverty.
Being a tea party member,you probably think, so what ,it's their own fault for being in poverty.
lazy good for nothing Liberals.

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Swills
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No, you're fail is epic. In fact, everyone should just stop giving you attention in this thread, or any thread, because we are only feeding the Zionist troll.

Sure, faced with facts, fall back on hateful rhetoric.

You do not deserve that golden lining, in my opinion.

So I'm not allowed to have an opinion? Isn't freedom of speech just peachy!

Btw, I would gladly give all of the USofA back to all the Native Tribes if it were up to me. I would rather live as my ancestors did then to live in this dirty, disgusting, self centered, manipulative country we call America.

edit on 20-9-2011 by Swills because: (no reason given)

Then give up your home. RIGHT NOW! DO IT! Prove it!
Or else?

-meh-

Just another angry anti-semetic poster.

How dare you call me anti-Semitic. I'll have you know I am technically Jewish, my mother is Orthodox. I've said nothing in any of my posts that would even be considered racist or anti-Semitic. If anything, I am against the Zionist regime. You are disgusting, and this why you don't deserve to be call a contributor, imo.

You try to weaken the anti-Zionist arguments by bringing up Native Americans, African Americans, and such (and who ruined their lives and who supports Israel?). And as I've said, if it were up to me I would give the entire USofA back to the Native tribes. And in standard form you try to call me out, telling me to give up my home. I rent, so it's not up to me, just as it isn't up to me to give up any land, anywhere. Hey that sounds familiar, who gave the UN and the Zionist any right to create the state of Israel? They gave themselves the right, and it's that very attitude these same Gov'ts have had since their inception. They take what they want, it's clear history, and it's wrong, but they are ones in power so they do as they please, steal and pillage, and the state of Israel is no exception. Well the only exception is they can play they "Jew" card. If anyone is against the state of Israel they are anti-Semitic. Hey that sounds familiar. That's right you called me anti-Semitic.

In essence you are telling us all its okay to take land because it was done in the past. Using your logic we should find out where you live and give your land to somebody else. My vote goes to a Palestinian family who lost their home due to Israels constant and illegal expansion. Silly argument I know, and that's what people do when they have no real legs to stand on.

I'm done with you. To "debate" with you is a waste of time. I will no longer feed the Zionist troll.

reply to post by beezzer


Poor kid, we talk about israel, not indians, no negros, get it now? Can you stick to the topic at hand? Its the genocide they are perpetrating on a daily basis in the palestine land, ancient history is just that, even if it fits your misdirecting purposes.

Originally posted by UnaChispa
reply to post by beezzer

 

Tea Party Member wanting people to do outrageous things? I guess that is par for the course.
I used to have respect for you.
I refuse to argue with idiots. I'm out of here. This is like beating a dead horse.

I asked you to prove your assertions and you insult and run.
E-thug much?

Buh-bye

reply to post by Immune


Have been a fierce supporter of Israel all my 64 years.

Have always been a fierce supporter of Israel on ATS.

Those of us who believe

THAT THERE IS AN ALMIGHTY GOD--JEHOVAH . . .

BELIEVE HIM

When HE says--HE WILL bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel.

Besides, I'm evidently part Israeli.

The Palestinian problem is an outrageous travesty foisted on the so called Palestinians by their Arab brothers who refused to take them in STRICTLY as a GREEDY POWER PLAY to deny Israel the right to Israel's ancestral lands.

NOBODY wanted the deserted land until Israel began to make the desert bloom again. Then Arab pride and greed kicked in . . .

Originally posted by rigel4

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by UnaChispa

 

Prove it.

Justify it.
NOW.

Rhetoric is easy. Backing it up with unbiased facts is kinda hard.

You shout very loudly, but can you justify the billions per year America
gives to Israel?

Without it Israel would be dead by now.

The it's a good thing we give, isn't it

American money, while your own a living in poverty.
Being a tea party member,you probably think, so what ,it's there own fault for being in poverty.
lazy good for nothing Liberals.

I could think of a trillion other cuts.

Originally posted by Saltarello
reply to post by beezzer

 

Poor kid, we talk about israel, not indians, no negros, get it now? Can you stick to the topic at hand? Its the genocide they are perpetrating on a daily basis in the palestine land, ancient history is just that, even if it fits your misdirecting purposes.

Thanks, mom. I'll try to remember that. Just trying to make parallel arguments.

Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by Immune

 

Have been a fierce supporter of Israel all my 64 years.

Have always been a fierce supporter of Israel on ATS.

Those of us who believe

THAT THERE IS AN ALMIGHTY GOD--JEHOVAH . . .

BELIEVE HIM

When HE says--HE WILL bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel.

Besides, I'm evidently part Israeli.

The Palestinian problem is an outrageous travesty foisted on the so called Palestinians by their Arab brothers who refused to take them in STRICTLY as a GREEDY POWER PLAY to deny Israel the right to Israel's ancestral lands.

NOBODY wanted the deserted land until Israel began to make the desert bloom again. Then Arab pride and greed kicked in . . .

Sorry ........you're entitled to your beliefs.
However you belief and the American brethren you belong to are the very reason Israel exists.
You are going bring the world to a crisis, either now or sometime in the future because you believe in a magical being.
I don't meant to be rude, but don't you think it just a bit pathetic to support Israel , because you think that by helping "The Chosen People" your God will bless you.

Let me ask you this. Sometime in the future the will be a nuclear war over Israel. Do you think they are worth the death of millions?