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Am i the only one who supports Israel

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posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
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They are chosen because they WANT to be, because they believe in scripture. It's not as if a god is forcing them, it's THEIR CHOICE. You make it sound as if we should pity them for their belief.


they are chosen not just because they want to be...but it isnt just the bible that "chooses" them if it were id get the fairy tale argument...they have an oral tradition passed down for generations much like the native americans...it started from somewhere..its an oral tradition....it is not just like they read the book and decided "this sounds good i want to be a part of that"...they are born into it....and no you should not pitty them for their belief just be less of an asshole and be more open minded to their situation....because just like you say they have twisted things....clearly you can see that you are capable of twisting things as welll....chosen for a spiritual responsibility becomes....CHOSEN TO RUN THE WORLD....that is twisted and simple logic and frankly atheist or not....i think your above that




posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 07:11 PM
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they have an oral tradition passed down for generations much like the native americans...it started from somewhere..its an oral tradition


Do you know this game kids play in kindergarden? Where they sit in a circle and one person starts whispering something into the person left to him, and it goes around in a circle, and by the time it gets to the last person it's something completely different?

And that's just a few kids...now picture thousands of years and thousands of people...yeah, I'm sure, the message is still the same



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
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they have an oral tradition passed down for generations much like the native americans...it started from somewhere..its an oral tradition


Do you know this game kids play in kindergarden? Where they sit in a circle and one person starts whispering something into the person left to him, and it goes around in a circle, and by the time it gets to the last person it's something completely different?

And that's just a few kids...now picture thousands of years and thousands of people...yeah, I'm sure, the message is still the same



i get what your saying...and it isnt a bad comparison....but lets be honest there is a difference between a bunch of 5 year olds in a circle who just hear things and people who have LIVED and practiced these traditions for generations...if it were just thoughts and ideas you could chalk it up to folklore traditions of living are quite hard to screw up because you are ALWAYS living it....and your parents were ALWAYS living it....so its a bit different....but you are an atheist my point is not to convince ou of god and therefore the legitimacy of religion just to get to respect it and not twist it...i could say the same thing to you if you are atheist...because atheism says there is no chance of god existing...but you can not prove that with anymore empirical evidence then god existing....and because you cannot prove something does not exist i cant understand atheism i much more understand agnosticism but i do respect atheism because its coming from a good place of intellectual integruity...



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 10:00 PM
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1948: In the Spring of this year, the Rothschilds bribe President Harry S. Truman (33rd President of the United States 1945 – 1953) to recognise Israel (Rothschild owned Zionist not Jewish territory) as a sovereign state with $2,000,000 which they give to him on his campaign train.

there you go is it a conspiracy theory



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 10:01 PM
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id like to know your sources please and thank you



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by NuancesRkey

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by NuancesRkey
 


They are chosen because they WANT to be, because they believe in scripture. It's not as if a god is forcing them, it's THEIR CHOICE. You make it sound as if we should pity them for their belief.


they are chosen not just because they want to be...but it isnt just the bible that "chooses" them if it were id get the fairy tale argument...they have an oral tradition passed down for generations much like the native americans...it started from somewhere..its an oral tradition....it is not just like they read the book and decided "this sounds good i want to be a part of that"...they are born into it....and no you should not pitty them for their belief just be less of an asshole and be more open minded to their situation....because just like you say they have twisted things....clearly you can see that you are capable of twisting things as welll....chosen for a spiritual responsibility becomes....CHOSEN TO RUN THE WORLD....that is twisted and simple logic and frankly atheist or not....i think your above that


And you really believe that? That statement shows just how delusional you are, and so is anyone that seriously believes that as well.

Ah, but aren't we all so familiar with the insane and depraved ideas that religion puts into our heads?

Yes, your illusions of grandeur are completely fictitious, total fantasy.

You cling to this fantasy because it helps you to justify the criminal behavior that Israel propagates.
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posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 11:29 PM
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Originally posted by yourignoranceisbliss

Originally posted by NuancesRkey

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by NuancesRkey
 


They are chosen because they WANT to be, because they believe in scripture. It's not as if a god is forcing them, it's THEIR CHOICE. You make it sound as if we should pity them for their belief.


they are chosen not just because they want to be...but it isnt just the bible that "chooses" them if it were id get the fairy tale argument...they have an oral tradition passed down for generations much like the native americans...it started from somewhere..its an oral tradition....it is not just like they read the book and decided "this sounds good i want to be a part of that"...they are born into it....and no you should not pitty them for their belief just be less of an asshole and be more open minded to their situation....because just like you say they have twisted things....clearly you can see that you are capable of twisting things as welll....chosen for a spiritual responsibility becomes....CHOSEN TO RUN THE WORLD....that is twisted and simple logic and frankly atheist or not....i think your above that


And you really believe that? That statement shows just how delusional you are, and so is anyone that seriously believes that as well.

Ah, but aren't we all so familiar with the insane and depraved ideas that religion puts into our heads?

Yes, your illusions of grandeur are completely fictitious, total fantasy.

You cling to this fantasy because it helps you to justify the criminal behavior that Jews propagate.


i know you love to show how much more enlightened and better you are than everyone else because you dont buy into fairytale and all the little people that too have a mental condition but instead of reiterating that point over and over and over like a broken record can you actually support anything you have to say with anything else but your personal biases and disprove what i am saying using words other than"mentally unstable".."delusional"...fairytale" etc....can you?...because im not sure you can



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 11:32 PM
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Wrong post.
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posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 11:39 PM
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I have the perfect solution !

Let every Palestinian convert to Judaism.

Problem Solved !


Or, even better...let both Palestinians and Jews accept Jesus and convert to Christianity !

Jesus Saves !

There should be a UN resolution that requires everyone living within 100 miles of Jesus' birth place to accept the Religion of Jesus.

All fighting will cease.




edit on 22-9-2011 by DRAZIW because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 11:45 PM
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able2know.org...
www.planetization.org...
en.wikipedia.org...
humansarefree.com...

if you scoll down on the history ones to 1948 ,the wikilink at the bottom is the info you are looking for



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 11:53 PM
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www.thetruthseeker.co.uk...
www.whatis-theplan.org...
two more that say the same thing I posted



posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 11:58 PM
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right, so basically all the websites you gave me with the exception of wikipedia, have a clear agenda, are clearly biased are clearly trying to convince you of something and no do not go and tell e"yeah the truth" because the very fact the planetization website even mentions the illuminati is conspiracy and hearsay. some of these occurrences miht have happened...did rothschild fun the state of israel> evidently so..but please tell me why this is an issue without using an jewish conspiracy theories



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 12:09 AM
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Look guys, im not a bible thumper and honestly i question God more than i belive these days... However the bible talks about this, God original "chosen" people who betrayed idolized other Gods and spat in his face. Now they have there country back yet its still divided most cant even live there because they dont follow there own teaching, the bible says this is Gods punishment. But they will have there years as promised the bible says which is his final rath. Im not thumping nor am i much of a beliver however i know what the bible says at one time i was faithful, Let me just put it this way if theres any chance they truly are Gods people i dont want to be a jew hater, or a hater of any people for that matter. However if you F*** with my family or me, if you wish our destruction i will defend them till my last breathe.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 12:13 AM
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Originally posted by OpioidFreud
Seriously # Israel, they think that just because some stupid ass book that was written and re-edited hundreds of times by people they assume were "sane" when they could have been anybody, mentally ill or not, says the jews were "god's" chosen people that they can deny archaeological and anthropological history prooving that the jews were not the first ones to inhabit Israel and that the Palestinians WERE THERE FIRST and make Palestinian's lives miserable by bulldozing their homes and stealing their land?

Seriously?!?!

Anyone who would support such hateful and ignorant people are just as blind and ignorant as them IMHO.

I hate all religions but zionist jews take the cake for being the biggest assholes.


What are you talking about first there's no such thing as Palestinians. And second the people that call themselves Palestinians are are from Jordan. I think you need to look at roman records who needs archeology even the Romans agreed the Jews were there first.Yasser Arafat the leader of the Palestinians was Egyptian! And were you aware alot of your beliefs in a palestinian state was started by Hitler. his goal was to create a Palestine in order to wipe out Jewish history. Ever heard of Haj Amin al-Husseini Grand Mufti of Jerusalem? Do you realize every problem we have in the middle east is traced back to him and Hitler and there hatred of Jews. God i hate when people think they know history. I could care less what you believe but at least get your facts straight.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 12:21 AM
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It could also be said that everything in the middle east can be traced back to Israel. The problem is history is usually written by the victors. Regardless of even that, there is no reason on this earth why Americans should be handing over their hard earned money to an 'ally' that does nothing but take while giving nothing in return. Israel, by definition, is a parasite.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 12:22 AM
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Now that i can agree we cant afford to give both sides money i think we need to stop the whole mess.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by Skewed

Well I certainly would not have posted my intentions on fb that I was going to attack.
A surprise attack is common strategy used by every military on the planet.

The real question is, was it an act of aggression or a preemptive strike.


By your definition, the Dec. 7, 1941 sneak attack on Pearl Harbor is a preemptive strike.



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by dragonridr
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Now that i can agree we cant afford to give both sides money i think we need to stop the whole mess.


Stop the whole mess by ignoring it. Stop funding Israel. Dont even vote for a Palestinian state. Stop choosing sides. If Israel wants to start wars then they have the soldiers and even nukes to finish them. Nobody needs to defend Israel. And this whole idea that we need to stop Iran from getting a nuke just blows my mind. Iran has absolutely no way of ever attacking the US with a nuke. They dont even have an air force. So basically we need to send more of OUR troops and more of OUR money over to Iran to prevent them from getting a nuke to PROTECT Israel? I dont know about you, but Im sick of America being used as a puppet to fight Israeli war. It is not our job to play world police! Besides, does anyone really think Iran would be stupid enough to even attempt to target Israel? Iran would be blown off the map before the missile even launched. The entirety of the situation is absurd. Let Israel fight its own wars.
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posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 12:53 AM
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I support Israel!!!!! Whomever and whatever they may be, and whereever they are, I supportt and love them, and pray for them daily!!!!



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 01:02 AM
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even more strange is the Germans who are very devout Christians (at least in the 1930's) but don't seem to view the Jews as "God's chosen people".

Nazi Christians




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