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Am i the only one who supports Israel

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posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:00 PM
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Torture is illegal in North Korea but was legal in Israel.

Israeli military policy encourages the breaking of the bones of Palestinians.

You can see that practice at 00:43 in this video that almost 4 million people have watched.



ZIONISM = PURE EVIL





posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by gravitational

Originally posted by TheBandit795
reply to post by Humanity4Ever
 



Originally posted by Humanity4Ever
reply to post by TheBandit795
 


The USS Liberty incident was unintentional, and has long been resolved between the U.S. and Israel. Give it up. Stop trying to poison the minds of others on this site.


Do you have any links supporting your notion that it was unintentional????


I wonder, are you this hateful against foreign nations that have intentionally attacked or actually fought wars with the U.S. in the past?



Judgmental, aren't we??? Where do you see "hate" in two short sentences and two video posting???


Yes, there's plenty of proof debunking the USS LIBERTY conspiracy theory.
Of course, it won't stop Israel's haters bunch, regardless of the facts, since facts are of little concern to them:

www.sixdaywar.org...

www.thelibertyincident.com...

www.camera.org...

if you read carefully through these documents, it is apparent and clear as day, that bringing the issue of the USS Liberty time and time again after all these years, has a clear anti Israel agenda (and Anti Semite in some cases) behind it.


Nice propaganda. But I will believe the word of the survivors over the word of people who weren't there.




posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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UMM>
The actions of one soldier caught on film doing something evil doesnt mean it is "ISRAELI POLICY TO BREAK PALESTINIAN BONES" you effing shmuck.

Theres a video online of an american soldier stepping on the balls of an iraqi child. Is that the "Official US policy in iraq"???


Soldiers get out of hand. And theyre usually given this leeway by the army.

This is as much true of America, China, Russia, European and Arab military as it is of Israel.

People who go around saying "zionism is pure evil" are usually some of the most evil, mendacious peopl that live on the planet.

The very persistent ones probably have an metaphysical, ideological reason for being the agents of disinformation that they are.



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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edit on 21-9-2011 by dontreally because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:22 PM
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Press TV and RT are really working to incite anti-zionism in the world. Seemingly all of their reports on Israel are negative for Israel.



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:26 PM
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How can you call your selves Jews and Christians and not support Israel. Their coming home is a prophecy in itself, they were not only rejected from Europe and Middle East including Iraq which the British mandate handed over to the Arabs and look how that turned out for the Christian and Jews who were killed and driven out there.

Christ is coming to Israel that is his time piece; he is going to turn up at Zion that is why it is so important to the world. How do we know Arabs are Arabs, what genetic features or proof is there either in all this? We know Jews have higher IQ than the average person must say something other than not being related to someting important.

We know the bad guys will show up one day in Israel and call himself God that is also a prophecy because before the good we have the bad and that is the way it is going to be but does not we should stop the redemption of the Jews before his coming.

Throughout the whole Bible it says that the Jews will be dragged out from all the nations, that is what happened and WW2 is another example of mans treatment of them, your inner hate for them like an inbreeded from the genetics of all the empires that came before that did the same, the end of days will also be a time when Arab nations will drag the world maybe the UN against them after the Gog and Magog War Eziekiel 38-39, how else is the Anti-Christ and the this whole debate on this very existence of ATS about conspiracies ever going to happen like NWO and fake Alien invasion and false religious leaders ever going to happen, everything is based on Armageddon and you guys just picks sides against Israel like it is a good thing, how demented is that in the face of good and evil.

Israel is full of historical evidence it helps prove the Bible and the Bible helps find its ancient cities and buildings, the evidence is there they have made hundreds of books about it.

Has anyone done any Bible research on what the Bible says against the endtime enemies of Jerusalem, which countries are involved and how it will end up? Has anyone done the research because right now it looks spot on.

Ezekiel 34:13:
I will bring them out from the nations and gather them from the countries, and I will bring them into their own land. I will pasture them on the mountains of Israel, in the ravines and in all the settlements in the land.

Ezekiel 30
A Lament Over Egypt

For the day is near,
the day of the LORD is near—
a day of clouds,
a time of doom for the nations.
4 A sword will come against Egypt,
and anguish will come upon Cush.[a]
When the slain fall in Egypt,
her wealth will be carried away
and her foundations torn down.
5 Cush and Libya, Lydia and all Arabia, Kub and the people of the covenant land will fall by the sword along with Egypt.
6 “‘This is what the LORD says:
“‘The allies of Egypt will fall
and her proud strength will fail.
From Migdol to Aswan
they will fall by the sword within her,

Gaza is mentioned a lot so is Syria, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Lebanon, Jordan, Turkey and eventually Russia and God of the Bible will not be a happy bunny when they group for war and lose and then probably the UN get involved and really get annoyed by then.

www.seekingtruth.co.uk...

I'm not writing this because I hate anyone I am writting this so you know and if some are so far behind it all then then at least I tried, no doubt some delays will happen and won't happen straight away but the signs are there and people just don't see it and are backing the wrong side like it was foretold already.

Christ is coming to Zion, it won't be happy experience because man will ultimately rebel along with unseen forces but you can not stop the future and by doing so you will be backing the wrong side.

The choice is yours believe what you will.




edit on 21-9-2011 by The time lord because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:37 PM
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OK, let me step in and ask you a couple of questions.

If space has no oxygen, did we here on earth get all of it?

If space is sterile, how can you account for the existance of aminoe acids, the building blocks of life, and sugar compounds found in starlight and some meteors.

If space is only hot or cold, are you saying it is not possible for other planets to be located in a "goldilocks zone" around another star just like our earth?

Before you answer think of how vast the universe is. That is about how likely your answers will be wrong.



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:37 PM
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How can you call yourself a logical human being when you admit that the all-loving God loves Jews more than the other people?



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by UnaChispa
reply to post by beezzer
 


Definition of "STEAL"
1.
to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, especially secretly or by force: A pickpocket stole his watch.
2.
to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or acknowledgment.
3.
to take, get, or win insidiously, surreptitiously, subtly, or by chance: He stole my girlfriend.
4.
to move, bring, convey, or put secretly or quietly; smuggle (usually followed by away, from, in, into, etc.): They stole the bicycle into the bedroom to surprise the child.
5.
Baseball . (of a base runner) to gain (a base) without the help of a walk or batted ball, as by running to it during the delivery of a pitch.

I rest my case.


Erm, i thought the jews bought all the land in 1948? Surely someone has a bill of sale from that time period or at the very least a deed to the property. That would certainly shut the palestinians up, but they would probably just accuse the jews of fabricating false evidence. The sons of Isaac and Ishmael have been fighting over that land for 4,000 years, nothing is going to change that short of an end all war to prove who has the right to be there. As history has stated many, many times, "Might Makes Right".

The way wars were won often times in those ancient days were each nation would choose one of their best champions, and whichever champion won the fight was the side that won the battle or war. Maybe they should go back to that sort of thing, it would make conflicts less bloody.



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by masterp
reply to post by The time lord
 


How can you call yourself a logical human being when you admit that the all-loving God loves Jews more than the other people?


Typical Jewish outlook



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:56 PM
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reply to post by The time lord
 


I find it interesting you would use this quote:



Ezekiel 34:13
I will bring them out from the nations and gather them from the countries, and I will bring them into their own land. I will pasture them on the mountains of Israel, in the ravines and in all the settlements in the land.


I can't help but wonder if you had ever noticed this one.

On another of your statements.

I have an I Q of 165, but I don't see how that makes me better than anyone else.

Rev. 3:9
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

I am not trying to make any judgements. Just asking a question.
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posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:57 PM
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I might add that the evidence shows overwhelmingly that Israel was responsible for the attacks on America on 9-11. How anyone could support these cowards is beyond me.



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:59 PM
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Nope. Simple logic.



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 06:04 PM
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Palestine will gain statehood. Period. America is running around with its tail between its legs right now trying to avoid it. But ultimately it will happen. And then Israel will be oh so sad that it can't run around snatching up Palestinian settlements or destroying their olive groves. Poor poor Israelis.

Oh.. and to the rocket scientist who said the USS Liberty attack was unintentional, you need to educate yourself. One strafing run is perhaps unintentional. Hours upon hours of attacks is very very VERY intentional. But I guess I forgot the golden rule. Israel can never do any wrong. No matter what they do, they are the victim just defending themselves.

The world is slowly closing in around Israel. They better shape up and change their attitude real fast.



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 06:12 PM
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No you are not the only one that supports Israel, but note that by simply opening this thread you have opened up yourself to much hatred. It only took a few posts and the hatred began. Hatred for God, Hatred for Israel. No wonder this world is in such a mess. You have done well with your Thread. Everything you say is completely true. Not a single word of dissent or hate can change the truth. No deceit, no lie, nothing can change the truth. Soon, very soon people will know that out there in the midst of things is a very angry God. Make no mistake. Love Israel or hate it, they are totally surrounded by those that have but one desire and that is to destroy them. It has always been that way. One day that will change. We must not forget, that this tiny little nation has enough weapons to ignite the entire world in war and probably total destruction.
It would be best to use our wisdom in this matter rather than our vain knowledge. It will only take one more war, and it will not be a good thing for anyone, hatred or not. Israel cannot be wished away with hatred or angry words.
Congrats on making this post. Those on the side of Israel are few, but Israel has always been in that fix. HMMM they always seem to come out on top against impossible odds. They do have God on their side, and they will not loose. The line between good and evil is getting wider, and I can see it right here in this thread with all the posts.
Goodspeed Immune keep up the good work



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 06:12 PM
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Im sure youll be pleased when palestinian terrorists, from the hilly tops of the west bank, shoot thousands of rockets at Israeli cties an towns in the low lying Tel-Aviv-jaffa region.

The world will lament!!! Another holocaust! Hundreds of thousands, or maybe all of them - 6 million Jews, Killed!!!! Oh...what a shame.....

And then they'll forget it ever happened, as they did with the holocaust.

This might completely solve their diabolical 'Jewish problem'.



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 06:16 PM
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The answer is in your question.



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by The time lord
How can you call your selves Jews and Christians and not support Israel. Their coming home is a prophecy in itself, they were not only rejected from Europe and Middle East including Iraq which the British mandate handed over to the Arabs and look how that turned out for the Christian and Jews who were killed and driven out there.

Christ is coming to Israel that is his time piece; he is going to turn up at Zion that is why it is so important to the world. How do we know Arabs are Arabs, what genetic features or proof is there either in all this? We know Jews have higher IQ than the average person must say something other than not being related to someting important.

We know the bad guys will show up one day in Israel and call himself God that is also a prophecy because before the good we have the bad and that is the way it is going to be but does not we should stop the redemption of the Jews before his coming.

Throughout the whole Bible it says that the Jews will be dragged out from all the nations, that is what happened and WW2 is another example of mans treatment of them, your inner hate for them like an inbreeded from the genetics of all the empires that came before that did the same, the end of days will also be a time when Arab nations will drag the world maybe the UN against them after the Gog and Magog War Eziekiel 38-39, how else is the Anti-Christ and the this whole debate on this very existence of ATS about conspiracies ever going to happen like NWO and fake Alien invasion and false religious leaders ever going to happen, everything is based on Armageddon and you guys just picks sides against Israel like it is a good thing, how demented is that in the face of good and evil.

Israel is full of historical evidence it helps prove the Bible and the Bible helps find its ancient cities and buildings, the evidence is there they have made hundreds of books about it.

Has anyone done any Bible research on what the Bible says against the endtime enemies of Jerusalem, which countries are involved and how it will end up? Has anyone done the research because right now it looks spot on.

Ezekiel 34:13:
I will bring them out from the nations and gather them from the countries, and I will bring them into their own land. I will pasture them on the mountains of Israel, in the ravines and in all the settlements in the land.

Ezekiel 30
A Lament Over Egypt

For the day is near,
the day of the LORD is near—
a day of clouds,
a time of doom for the nations.
4 A sword will come against Egypt,
and anguish will come upon Cush.[a]
When the slain fall in Egypt,
her wealth will be carried away
and her foundations torn down.
5 Cush and Libya, Lydia and all Arabia, Kub and the people of the covenant land will fall by the sword along with Egypt.
6 “‘This is what the LORD says:
“‘The allies of Egypt will fall
and her proud strength will fail.
From Migdol to Aswan
they will fall by the sword within her,

Gaza is mentioned a lot so is Syria, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Lebanon, Jordan, Turkey and eventually Russia and God of the Bible will not be a happy bunny when they group for war and lose and then probably the UN get involved and really get annoyed by then.

www.seekingtruth.co.uk...

I'm not writing this because I hate anyone I am writting this so you know and if some are so far behind it all then then at least I tried, no doubt some delays will happen and won't happen straight away but the signs are there and people just don't see it and are backing the wrong side like it was foretold already.

Christ is coming to Zion, it won't be happy experience because man will ultimately rebel along with unseen forces but you can not stop the future and by doing so you will be backing the wrong side.

The choice is yours believe what you will.




edit on 21-9-2011 by The time lord because: (no reason given)


You know..I am so inclusive of others' beliefs..unless those beliefs are used to kill innocent human beings. THIS is why I'm not religious..BECAUSE IT'S BULL#. none of the things you cite will ever happen. this is nonsense, which is fine in of itself, but no one should be killed over it. I am sick and tired of religious looneys blocking human progress, and killing people over a #ing fairy tale..not just christianity. ANY religion.



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 06:23 PM
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One of the biggest mistakes in the history of the British empire giving up that region.

Didn't have all these current problems with British troops on the ground.

My grandfather actually served in the SAS during and directly after the war and was deployed to the Palestine in 46. In his own words, any insurgency and uprising would be quickly quelled by standing a few of them in front of a Vickers machine gun in the town square and making examples of them.



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by patternfinder

Originally posted by Humanity4Ever

Originally posted by patternfinder

Originally posted by Humanity4Ever

Originally posted by VictorVonDoom

Originally posted by illuminatislave
Educate yourself. Israel is not a friend of ours. Ask Americans who lost family members aboard the USS Liberty how much Israel gives a damn about them.


I'm with you, there. I don't see how any current or former member of the US Navy can support Israel after the USS Liberty.


The incident happened, but it was accidental, and the US government acknowledged it as such, or they most certainly would have responded accordingly. Why do anti Israel propogandists cling to this isolated incident like a lifeline to support their warped opinions of Israel? Are you also aware that friendly fire killed hundreds of American soldiers in the Vietnam War? The USS Liberty incident was a tragedy, but unfortunately, mistakes can occur during armed conflict. It's been nearly 45 years since the incident occured, and yet people still focus on it?



the so called "holocaust" was over 60 years ago, yet people are still focusing on it too, so what's the difference?


Are you serious dude?

The intentional systematic execution of 6 million European jews and millions of other people of other ethnic groups in WWII as opposed to an accidental incident that caused the death of 34 American Naval officers.

Do these historical events sound analagous to you?


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i'm wondering if you're serious???????/
didn't you hear how the jewish bolsheviks killed over 10 MILLION muslims and CHRISTIANS in the bolshevik revolution??????????

nobody is still harping on that one!!! in fact, there isn't too many people today, thanks to the jewish media, that even knows how many people the jewish people killed back then just so they could start the communist movement.......

so, sorry, i don't feel sorry for jewish people that we don't even know really how many actually died........


First time I'm lookng at this site and I am dumbfonded by the amount of pure, unadulterated, ribald antisemitism that is propogated here. It appears that people are not interested in hearing and understanding other perspectives on tkhese burning issues. Instead, totally laughable, ididotic arguments are repeatedly voiced by completely ignorant people. Other arguments are disingenuous.

Let's take the previous post about "bolshevik" Jews (notice the facade of "I'm not against Jews only Israelis and Zionists" has fallen) having slaughtered not tens, not hundreds, but tens of millions!! Does anybody not living in a padded cell actually believe this drivel? The incredible poverty experienced by the Jewish people living in Russia not to mention the resttrictive laws against Jews precluded any scent of assembling a mass army to perpetrate such disgusting crimes. Furthermore, even if there were Jewish people in Communist govt. posiitons who had a hand in crimes of htis magnitude the thinking person would realize that it is only by repudiating any vestige of the Jewish religion could such a person have risen to such a high status in the Bolshevik govt. The Jewish Bolsheviks dropped their religion in favor of Bolshevism.

What really shines through loud and clear in these posts is an unrelenting, close-minded antisemitisim sometimes hiding behind a thin, transparent veneer of "I'm only anti-Israel not anti Jewish". Posters are treated to sad disinformation and even crazier is the fact that the unsuspecting masses have begun to believe some of the purported "facts".

Just a quick elucidation of one of the fundamental anti Israel/anti semitic arguments which shows the uttter sleight of hand that we are exposed to by people who advance "the Palestinian cause". They want you to beleive thta the argument is over property ownership. In their twisted mind the problem is the Israelis who are usurping and continue to usurp properties from fine upstanding Arabs.

Now listen carefully: The argument is over SOVEREIGNTY not OWNERSHIP. Israel simlpy wants to be the sovereign power in their ancestral homeland in the W Bank legally granted to them by the League of Nations, purchased by the Jewish National fund and recaptured in 1967 after the land was occupied/stolen from them by Jordan in 1948. No one is expelling Arabs. yet the posters here have tried to write as if this is what the argument is about. They can't fathom that the Jews are not racist like the Pals (who's first act as a soverign power will be to expel all Jews--they have said this repeatedly) and have no intention of kicking the Arabs out.




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