Occupy Wall St. Video of violent arrests today 9/20

The real kicker out of all this as it happens is that Rumfeld doent have immunity anymore and Bush jr facing arrest in Canada also.

If the world has a event that requires bunkers they better have there own. They wont get into a US bunker. =D

Originally posted by chapterhouse
The real kicker out of all this as it happens is that Rumfeld doent have immunity anymore and Bush jr facing arrest in Canada also.

If the world has a event that requires bunkers they better have there own. They wont get into a US bunker. =D

The real kicker is that the Usurper is out talking about raising taxes but hiding it under a bushel of rhetoric about jobs and cutting spending. The MSM is out talking about financial reform. Yes, that is exactly what TPTB want. They want more reform(translate from Orwellian to English means more regulation and more control for them).

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by UniverSoul

 

I read once that Sagittarians have a way of making merry and throwing you up high in the air in all the fun, but they forget to catch you afterwards. You remind me of that. What happens when no one is using money and no one buys stuff anymore? Do we all just live off farms again and work the land to the bone like the pioneers? Do we build cabins in Montana? Bathe in Yellowstone river till it looks like the Ganges at the Millenium festival(I actually was there for that and I think I saw Sharon Stone with her bodyguards)? Do we build fires to keep warm like our ancestors did in the caves?
Also, what gives you the right to take food from shops? That sounds like pure anarchy and looting. Katrina style. It also reminds me of a book I just read, Pulitzer price winner called The Road and was made into a movie. But really it was the end of civilization.

edit on 21-9-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)

yeah he's talking about genocide, covertly cloaked in the guise of helping the people. "here ya go mates! kill each other! revolt. please!" white supremacists see this as their opportunity to shine, so do black supremacists. truth is, deck's already stacked against whitey, stacked up nice and high by the kind of propaganda that killed 40 million in russia and 6 million in germany and god knows how many in order to make china red. i think they ate their victims along the way so they wouldn't have to feed their armies, real food.

stop arguing about violent or non violent, how about we try a big peaceful protest first ( i mean a big big one ) if that dont work. we will use option 2 which is fight . suggestion ?

Originally posted by tienn93
stop arguing about violent or non violent, how about we try a big peaceful protest first ( i mean a big big one ) if that dont work. we will use option 2 which is fight . suggestion ?

NO! a big peaceful army, waiting to go balllistic? are you that anxious to kill people?
what the hell is wrong with people?

Originally posted by SalientSkivvy

Originally posted by omarm1984

Originally posted by ARealandTrueAmerican

Originally posted by UniverSoul
reply to post by Swills

 

violence is the answer when it comes to ridding the world of the tyrany that controls it, becaus we all know tptb wont actually listen to peacefull protests. nothing good will come from it apart from raising awarness
we must fight
or we are going to loose our freedoms very soon

edit on 20-9-2011 by UniverSoul because: (no reason given)

Not too familiar with world history?

Violent revolutions only end up being as bad as those they overthrew.

what about the French and the American revolution?

Haha apparently those revolutions didn't accomplish anything..

Oh no they did accomplish many things, and most are more obvious than others. Do you understand the difference between the American Revolution and the French Revolution, how each was accomplished? We fought the invading Brits in war and the French people got together in bloody riots to over throw their Gov't, meanwhile evil men rising to power forming secret police, the Reign of Terror, and lets not forget the introduction to the guillotine! And there was much much worse, like nuns being raped, terrible things. Change was needed in France, but ..... Off with their heads! America had George Washington and France got Maximilien Robespierre.

You fools watch this video and cry for violence. Go ahead tough guys, rally up via U2U, email, facebook, etc, go start your revolution. Its time right, or are you all just arm chair warriors? Lead the charge. Good luck defeating just the police. It will be just like GTA You know you are the minority and that day will never come, well not your day of violent uprising. It's a possibility of course, but some real bad things must happen before it gets to that point and this video of so called police violence aint gonna cut it.

You can, however, attract more bees with honey. You want to start seeing some change, for the MSM to take notice, then protests, sit ins, Wall Street occupation should be held every indefinitely. Its the place to be, right now, if you are in the area and wanna voice your concerns about our economic crisis. The best time is during Wall Streets working hours, even if there's only 30 people there protesting 2 weeks from now on a Thursday, it's enough rally a voice. Constantly in their in face.There's really no need to sleep there, we get it, but if people want too, go for it. Just make yourself known to Wall Street is the real mission.

Originally posted by UniverSoul

Originally posted by undo
^ look at that. he's telling us how to more effectively kill one another.

un-freakin-believable.

haha your an ideeeota mate
im saying that we only use violence if it is used on us. thats defence
if you can think of a better way to change the world please tell me

Are you English or Canadian? In the US we spell defense with an "s".

The time for peaceful protests are over.

We have seen them ignore our protests with the Iraq War, with protests against the G20, and with policies that the overwhelming majority of the public has disproved of such as the bailout of Wall Street, and most certainly the unknown and secret bailout of central banks in their globalist new world order that they continue to forge ahead with.

They do not represent the American people but only their fellow cockroaches on Wall Street and the major Corporations that depend on a big government for their power and control. These Big Wall Street banks and Mega Corporations have hijacked OUR government where they slip in and out of the public and private sector and write rules and regulations, causing small business's to fail where they then gain more market share, or buy out failed business's for pennies on the dollar.

If we cut government to 5%, these Big Banks on Wall Street and Mega Corporations would fail, where then small business's would fill in the demand.

Look at some of the actors involved that want to increase taxes and the picture becomes a lot clearer.
The increased taxes would have an effect only on the small business of America while these cockroaches gain more power and control, where they can subvert any increases or avoid them all together via loopholes or offshore accounts.

Buffet wants taxes increased
Wall Street firms such as Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan want taxes increased.
An example of a Mega Corp that pays no taxes - GE


Furthermore, does anyone really think that our founding fathers were in the wrong when many died for our freedom from oppression and taxation without representation from the British?

We now have taxation without representation, where they put their potential presidential pigmen, via financing from the banks and corps, into the media spotlight with much psychological propaganda.

We also have the biggest police state in the world, thanks to the Patriot Act and the TSA, and more in prison than any country.

Vote for McCain, they funded him
Vote for Obama, they funded him also

You loose either way, and they win


Peaceful Protests are over

Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by UniverSoul

 

I read once that Sagittarians have a way of making merry and throwing you up high in the air in all the fun, but they forget to catch you afterwards. You remind me of that. What happens when no one is using money and no one buys stuff anymore? Do we all just live off farms again and work the land to the bone like the pioneers? Do we build cabins in Montana? Bathe in Yellowstone river till it looks like the Ganges at the Millenium festival(I actually was there for that and I think I saw Sharon Stone with her bodyguards)? Do we build fires to keep warm like our ancestors did in the caves?
Also, what gives you the right to take food from shops? That sounds like pure anarchy and looting. Katrina style. It also reminds me of a book I just read, Pulitzer price winner called The Road and was made into a movie. But really it was the end of civilization.

edit on 21-9-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)

yeah he's talking about genocide, covertly cloaked in the guise of helping the people. "here ya go mates! kill each other! revolt. please!" white supremacists see this as their opportunity to shine, so do black supremacists. truth is, deck's already stacked against whitey, stacked up nice and high by the kind of propaganda that killed 40 million in russia and 6 million in germany and god knows how many in order to make china red. i think they ate their victims along the way so they wouldn't have to feed their armies, real food.

do you know the definition of genicide? im not talking about race warfare
im talking about sticking up for our rights
my main point is. we dont need violence if we stop supporting the economy

Originally posted by Swingline50022

Originally posted by UniverSoul

Originally posted by undo
^ look at that. he's telling us how to more effectively kill one another.

un-freakin-believable.

haha your an ideeeota mate
im saying that we only use violence if it is used on us. thats defence
if you can think of a better way to change the world please tell me

Are you English or Canadian? In the US we spell defense with an "s".

neither here nor there mate

Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by tienn93
stop arguing about violent or non violent, how about we try a big peaceful protest first ( i mean a big big one ) if that dont work. we will use option 2 which is fight . suggestion ?

NO! a big peaceful army, waiting to go balllistic? are you that anxious to kill people?
what the hell is wrong with people?

everything your saying against us, is not what were saying its actually what the government your supporting is doing

I agree with UniverSoul insofar as his assertion that violence should only be used if it's necessary for self defense. Whoever starts the violence first, protester or policeman, will also be the first to lose public support.

Losing public support is the LAST thing the protesters should want. Start a riot, and completely lose public credibility.

If there is going to be violence, let the police be the ones to start it. Then the blame will be on THEIR hands.

Originally posted by UniverSoul

Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by tienn93
stop arguing about violent or non violent, how about we try a big peaceful protest first ( i mean a big big one ) if that dont work. we will use option 2 which is fight . suggestion ?

NO! a big peaceful army, waiting to go balllistic? are you that anxious to kill people?
what the hell is wrong with people?

everything your saying against us, is not what were saying its actually what the government your supporting is doing

WE ALREADY KNOW THIS! and do you think for five seconds, because we are their charges, that'll stop them from wiping us out ? not, for, 1, second, should this thought enter your head. they want violent revolt. it allows them to social engineer the country illegally. USE YOUR FREAKIN BRAIN, that's why it's in your head

Originally posted by Swingline50022
I agree with UniverSoul insofar as his assertion that violence should only be used if it's necessary for self defense. Whoever starts the violence first, protester or policeman, will also be the first to lose public support.

Losing public support is the LAST thing the protesters should want. Start a riot, and completely lose public credibility.

If there is going to be violence, let the police be the ones to start it. Then the blame will be on THEIR hands.

AND just how do we know that it was really a police officer or that he wasn't in on it the whole time? then we can blame the "establishment" (which in this case are the american people because that's what these guys are calling for? they want us to kill each other. think think think, good grief, think

This argument is fruitless. Either you agree with way things are and your helping the wheels spin. Or you dont, and if you dont do something.

nuff said.

Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by Swingline50022
I agree with UniverSoul insofar as his assertion that violence should only be used if it's necessary for self defense. Whoever starts the violence first, protester or policeman, will also be the first to lose public support.

Losing public support is the LAST thing the protesters should want. Start a riot, and completely lose public credibility.

If there is going to be violence, let the police be the ones to start it. Then the blame will be on THEIR hands.

AND just how do we know that it was really a police officer or that he wasn't in on it the whole time? then we can blame the "establishment" (which in this case are the american people because that's what these guys are calling for? they want us to kill each other. think think think, good grief, think

I'm also advocating non-violence. The protesters have stated their intention of staging a non-violent demonstration, and I completely support them in that. There has been no violence so far, and it's best to keep it that way if possible. In this demonstration the police have acted like cops but they've done nothing so extreme as to justify any kind of violence or self-defense.

The tactics of non-violent civil disobedience require putting up with typical cop behaviors. "These guys" are not the protesters in New York, to the best of my knowledge and belief. They, like us, are just posters on a message board.

Originally posted by TechniXcality
This argument is fruitless. Either you agree with way things are and your helping the wheels spin. Or you dont, and if you dont do something.

nuff said.

no, there's not just black or white options. there's many options. calling it either this or that, is a tool of manipulation. nobody agrees with things the way they are. some think we should kill each other to fix it. that's EXACTLY what they want. if you think that'll fix it, i have nice mountain property in the florida everglades i'd like to sell you. you'll be in good company, right next to the people who claimed this wasn't a socialist takeover, 20 years ago. now we're told that socialism is good and we need it, even if it means violently revolting and killing innocent people. oh well. your wife died and your kid and your dog. and your best friend. your girl friend. oh well, some innocent people have to die in a revolt. you can kiss my not so shiny white hiney

I live in San Francisco and have only had time to briefly visit the OCCUPYFDSF (Financial District San Francisco) site, and there is not nearly enough support there. In order to pay my rent and bills I have to work, I work for a small business that is strongly involved in the arts movement here so I strongly believe in staying there for that purpose; so my support at my job is necessary.

However, if anybody in the California Bay Area reads this, I urge you to go out and support and/or camp at 555 California St.

Protests in this city tend to get glazed over because we're known for it and when people see a protest they just tend to move on but if they can get strong support I think they can make a difference.

Please go out and support! This is directly involved with the Occupy Wall Street campaign and deserves the same amount of reaction and support, if this can gain ground life wall street has then maybe that can be a start to large protests in other major cities.

The video of the bullhorn arrest this morning shows that these protesters have been schooled on how to conduct a non-violent demonstration.


www.youtube.com...

"Wonder how many homes have been robbed, cars stolen, or illegal 'drugs' been sold while the police protect Wall Street from bullhorns?" ~ Love

Rumor has it that tomorrow, the IWW might show up, and throw in their support... (:

so can anybody tell us where the food and money to pay the utility companies and gas stations is gonna come from and how people are going to be able to get to work? how we're gonna pay our mortgages, if we have one? suppose we just have to surrender our homes and everything we've worked for our entire lives? it's not like most of us have anything extravagant. most of the extravagant homes are empty or owned by people this kind thing is not going to impact, as they already have all their money in foreign countries and even alternate homes in safer places. but time and effort must be worth more than ZERO!

you're being manipulated to destroy your own country, because it's just not happening fast enough for the people trying to ruin it. they're afraid we're gonna manage to fix it before they can finish it off.

can't crash that economy fast enough eh? and you say THEY are trying to crash the economy? you must be their accomplices