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posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 02:51 PM
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this is the question


During a recent Republican presidential debate, CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, the moderator, asked Rep. Ron Paul a provocative health care question: What should happen to a healthy 30-year-old uninsured man who slips into a coma and needs care for months.


alright people since when does a healthy person ever slip into a coma?

hello:??????????????????????? healthy

"let him die" its not like health insurance isnt avialable for anyone to buy here the fact is most prioritize others things over health insurance.

fact is any hospital in this country renders care to whoever is in need but nope dont bother thinking about that.

and hello whatever medical bills incurred always have the option of declaring bankruptcy but no

the justifcation and condemnation here is you pay for your insurance and you have to pay for someone elses.

you were responsible for yourself but nope you are financially responsible for other people.

this country is totally seriously messed up

ZERO responsibilites for other people but that person whos putting a roof over their head putting food on their tables taking care of their families no no forget you

YOU HAVE TO PAY instead of those people who "wrongly" prioritize their needs really wants.
edit on 20-9-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)




posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by sweetliberty

Originally posted by narwahl
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Yes, he went on to say that "It's his decision"
Being in a coma though, kinda limits your decision making abilities...


That is why it's a good idea to at least have a life insurance policy on you
jk.

We have choices and options and should choice wisely. All the silver spoons are taken.


But that is actually one of the reasons why free market is a *bad* model for health care.
Nobody wants health care!
But if they need it they might die if they don't get it.
If I run any business i want cost to be as low as possible and income to be as high as possible.
preventing expensive procedures? Not in my interest.
provide help before somebody dies? Not in my interest.
Am I interested in getting an injured person to the nearest hospital? No. I want him to get to the cheapest hospital.
And if he dies on the way: Even better!
If he arrives alive, aww shucks, but o well... get him out as soon as possible!
If he gets out too soon, and dies as a result it will lessen the amount on my "accounts payable"-ledger.

Watch Sicko: A person has a car crash. Insurance denies to pay the ambulance, because it wasn't preapproved. How was she supposed to get it preapproved, while she was getting cut out, unconcious, out of her car?



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
this is the question


During a recent Republican presidential debate, CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, the moderator, asked Rep. Ron Paul a provocative health care question: What should happen to a healthy 30-year-old uninsured man who slips into a coma and needs care for months.


alright people since when does a healthy person ever slip into a coma?

hello:??????????????????????? healthy


Ever heard of a new concept called "accident"?



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 03:12 PM
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This video allows Ron Paul to explain himself entirely without manipulation by others who have an agenda to spread around.

Starting at 4:00
Mr. Paul kicks into high gear at around 5:19 - 5:50




posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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Ah, the old playing dumb trick. You're pulling it off quite well, I must say.


So asking questions to your slander is not allowed?

Well they say you've have eight different member names on here. Three of which are currently very active. I've heard this behavior is due to possibly having MPD.

Now please don't ask me "who" or "what" or "why".

So your approach here is: I said it and that should be enough for you and anyone else who reads this. Just shut up and trust me.

[What I typed above is an example of how liberals tell only have of a story, how many don't finish anything or follow though with facts].


edit on 20-9-2011 by sweetliberty because: Dear mod, if i get a spanking for this post may I request Masqua to give it to me




posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 03:42 PM
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Right, I forgot.
He said "meh... somebody will pay, a curch propably"
It's true that he was taken aback when some people cheered on "let him die"

It still doesn't refute what I said earlier that the most basic interest of insurance is to pay as little as possible. The most basic interest of doctors is to charge as high as possible.
Those two professions are in that business 24/7.
You on the other hand get thrust into that, unconcious, after a spell of bad luck...

You can't deny that these 3 facts make for a very unlevel playing field. Saying "charity will do it" is akin to taking the hands off the wheel and say "Jesus, you take over"



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 03:44 PM
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I read all the time how that American Military or Veterans wouldn't fire upon American citizens.
If this thread is a microcosm of the real divide in your country, it wouldn't take much for you people to be hunting each other like animals.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by SusyQ30
I read all the time how that American Military or Veterans wouldn't fire upon American citizens.
If this thread is a microcosm of the real divide in your country, it wouldn't take much for you people to be hunting each other like animals.


How about you worry about the problems that your country has and let us worry about ours? In other words "Butt out.". I'm getting sick and tired of people from other countries trying to tell us how messed up we are, but, get ticked off when we criticize their country. Damn European Liberals.

Mods. You know where I keep my points. Help yourself. It's worth it.
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posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by JIMC5499

Originally posted by SusyQ30
I read all the time how that American Military or Veterans wouldn't fire upon American citizens.
If this thread is a microcosm of the real divide in your country, it wouldn't take much for you people to be hunting each other like animals.

How about you worry about the problems that your country has and let us worry about ours? In other words "Butt out.". I'm getting sick and tired of people from other countries trying to tell us how messed up we are, but, get ticked off when we criticize their country. Damn European Liberals.
Mods. You know where I keep my points. Help yourself. It's worth it.

Two points...
First off, if you post in an international forum, you are going to get an international response. Sorry about your luck. (I starred her post by the way)
Secondly...Canada is not in Europe. Look north, eh?



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 04:33 PM
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RP's initial response was "no" before he was shouted down by the "yeah" screams from some TP viewers. Not even talking about the politician's views here, it's the people screaming "yeah" to the question if they should let someone die who disgust me.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
this is the question


During a recent Republican presidential debate, CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, the moderator, asked Rep. Ron Paul a provocative health care question: What should happen to a healthy 30-year-old uninsured man who slips into a coma and needs care for months.


alright people since when does a healthy person ever slip into a coma?

hello:??????????????????????? healthy

"let him die" its not like health insurance isnt avialable for anyone to buy here the fact is most prioritize others things over health insurance.

fact is any hospital in this country renders care to whoever is in need but nope dont bother thinking about that.

and hello whatever medical bills incurred always have the option of declaring bankruptcy but no

the justifcation and condemnation here is you pay for your insurance and you have to pay for someone elses.

you were responsible for yourself but nope you are financially responsible for other people.

this country is totally seriously messed up

ZERO responsibilites for other people but that person whos putting a roof over their head putting food on their tables taking care of their families no no forget you

YOU HAVE TO PAY instead of those people who "wrongly" prioritize their needs really wants.
edit on 20-9-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



Prioritizing other things over health insurance, or unable to afford insurance?

Of course people are going to prioritize housing, food, and gas over health insurance. You guys are dishonest as all #ing hell dude, either that or you're dumb enough to confuse "can not afford" with being "irresponsible".

Let me pay an obscene price for health insurance every month, I can live for days without food

Let me pay an obscene price for health insurance every month, sleeping in my car is a better option than paying rent.

This isn't a black and white as you far right loons are making it out to be.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by narwahl

Originally posted by neo96
this is the question


During a recent Republican presidential debate, CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, the moderator, asked Rep. Ron Paul a provocative health care question: What should happen to a healthy 30-year-old uninsured man who slips into a coma and needs care for months.


alright people since when does a healthy person ever slip into a coma?

hello:??????????????????????? healthy


Ever heard of a new concept called "accident"?


You can't explain that to some people. They just believe that live works perfectly for everyone, and if things happens if you get stuck it's your fault and you should just die.

It must have been nice to have been born with a silver spoon firmly planted in your mouth.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 04:41 PM
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yep another post there without an

ounce of compassion,empathy or tolerance

and insulting why? because you dont agree

see the difference between the lefties and rigthes no so much of a "false left-right paradigm"

point of fact do whatever you want with your own money but seriously

stay the hell out of my wallet my nose isnt in yours.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 04:43 PM
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RP's initial response was "no" before he was shouted down by the "yeah" screams from some TP viewers. Not even talking about the politician's views here, it's the people screaming "yeah" to the question if they should let someone die who disgust me.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by illuminatislave
 


yep another post there without an

ounce of compassion,empathy or tolerance

and insulting why? because you dont agree

see the difference between the lefties and rigthes no so much of a "false left-right paradigm"

point of fact do whatever you want with your own money but seriously

stay the hell out of my wallet my nose isnt in yours.


It's hard to agree with barbarians, sorry.

And I am willing to contribute my fair share to help my fellow Americans. Unlike you and the other TP sociopaths, I do not want to see my fellow country men die due to the b.s. of this current system.

I'd prefer an overhaul of the system to ensure that costs are lowered and healthcare is affordable, so that the burden won't be that much on all of us dude.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 05:01 PM
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well in my book the civilized ones

are the ones who dont go around calling people

barbarians
sociopaths
right wing loons

etc. for disagreeing

thanks tho pretty much proved all my points of contention of the left holier than thou of the right

nope not even close.
edit on 20-9-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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Barbarians....
Markus Bachmann?



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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He is right.

As long as he didn't make any specific references to killing a particular person, like Libs do on a regular basis via Facebook, YouTube, twitter, it's perfectly safe and legit.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by Alxandro
He is right.

As long as he didn't make any specific references to killing a particular person, like Libs do on a regular basis via Facebook, YouTube, twitter, it's perfectly safe and legit.


Got anything more concrete than this guy

Originally posted by wasco2
Actually I would love for the looney left to grab there golf clubs and baseball bats and take to the streets. If enough of them do it to make a major nuisance, or maybe even a threat, maybe the Silent Majority will wake up and realize the biggest threat to America is from within. The looney left may then find out to most on the right gun control means being able to hit your target. And guns kill from a lot farther away than rocks and molotov cocktails.

?



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 05:17 PM
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Having watched the video clips and been keeping up with what is going on in the question there are a few things that can be stated:

What was the question to which he answered, as that is as important at the question. But based off of the answer he gave, and he makes a valid point, that sometimes the union protestors and those that are liberal go too far in not only their rhetoric, but also their actions.

To protest a company, the government, that is perfectly acceptable, that is something that should be supported and backed, there is no question to that. But when the protestors show up at a private house, to protest in large numbers, scaring and possibly threatening someone’s family, then it crosses a line that should not get crossed, and the question is what should be the correct response? He is also correct that sometimes the mainstream media does not show these actions, and by their silence, ultimately support those actions.

If the tea party or the conservative movement were to do some of the actions that has been shown in the past year by the Unions and the liberals, the media would be all over it, to the point of trying to influence the general population against such, but when it is the other guys, well they are silent, and that is something that needs to be changed.

While I do not advocate violence of any sort, I believe that the media is too silent and is often not balanced in its views of what all is going on, polarizing the population to what it wants to see. Pictures show only what they want, and never the entire view point. It is ironic how both sides agree to tone down the rhetoric, yet only one side will uphold on that agreement, and that too needs to change. Government, and those who would represent people should show the utmost in civility, as well as call for those who would support them to do such, yet in the end, it can be said that the silence is deafening.



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