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Originally posted by GrinchNoMore
reply to post by Varemia
LOL Verm, you just hit the nail on the head for ONCE.
Please direct us to a decidedly "perfect" demolition.
Was it a decidedly imperfect collapse as well ???
Oh , i see what you mean, the fact that the buildings look like Atomic bombs being detonated is what gives you this opinion that things just do not look right.
Even GOD must cringe when he sees such "simple" posts.
the only time you get slag on the side you cut is if you don't let the flame go all the way through, and it sprays out. you know, like if you used a thermate charge and the top metal is blown out of the way before it is completely severed.
assuming this was a planned event, then the impact point of the planes could easily have been known beforehand. so it would be easy to place explosives up to the point of impact, and let the top of the tower destroy itself on the ground as it fell with no resistance.
Originally posted by Calex1987
but yet there are tons of engineers who will look at you and go the fire wasnt hot enough to explain the molten steel pouring out of the side of the building jet fuel alone and office supplies do NOT burn hot enough to do what your saying its been proven....and they are the first steel structure's to actually "collapse" because of fire...please if your so inclined tell me why a building that burned for 18hours straight stayed standing...it must of went threw way more hell Considering it burnt for 18hours over what 54 mins? you say your wife is an architect.....well then even she could tell you she didnt know for a fact it would come down...or the fact she really thought it would since a fire has NEVER taken a steel structure down..... i would love to argue every point of your new found belief but it would be pointless...edit on 20-9-2011 by Calex1987 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Dr Love
I love the ever-growing number of "I was a truther and now I'm not" threads.
Does "their" playbook really say that this kind of reverse psychology actually works? I think a third-grader wrote the playbook.
Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
the first thing you learn in welding school is how to use a torch. you can't get that slag pattern with an acetylene torch unless you really tried. they just don't cut like that. someone inexperienced with a torch won't have a smooth, even cut, and there may be stops and starts, but never dripping slag on the side you cut. the metal gets blown out the other side with the oxygen stream.
A thermal lance, thermic lance, oxygen lance, or burning bar is a tool that burns iron in the presence of pressurized oxygen to create very high temperatures for cutting. It consists of a long iron tube packed with iron rods, sometimes mixed with aluminium or magnesium rods to increase the heat output. One end of the tube is placed in a holder and oxygen is fed through the tube.
Originally posted by mileslong54
Can you explain the dust cloud of concrete particles? Yes concrete will break into pieces from a fall and impact, what would make concrete go from a solid to a fine particle dust cloud the size of Manhattan? Ask yourself if there were helicopters that were flying at the same height as the towers (1,111 feet high) and they droped concrete walls of the same mixture concrete (which this concrete made for these tower was a mix much stronger than your everyday sidewalk concrete) would you get a dust cloud of that size and that fine of paticulate matter? No you would get broken pieces of concrete even if it was a clean free fall with nothing in the way (which the concrete that fell as you said hit other layers increasing the weight of the falling mass but slowing the impact of the concrete).edit on 21-9-2011 by mileslong54 because: (no reason given)edit on 21-9-2011 by mileslong54 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TrailGator
Originally posted by DemonicUFO
Wife girlfriend whatever you know what I meant, and another thing, I heard the world trade centers were designed to take impact from the biggest planes in existence. What about all the other skyscrapers that have caught fire and never went down like these.
edit on 20-9-2011 by DemonicUFO because: (no reason given)
and you can cite this - WTC's being able to stand impact from biggest planes in existence - from what credible source? And I dont mean 'truther' sites, but the engineers and architects that actually designed the building, as they are only ones who would know....
we're waiting on that citation....
Gosh, this is such a fallacy it is absurd. Jet A burns at less than 600 degrees F. Structural steel has a melting point of 1000-1200 degrees F. Let's also remember that the steel was covered in fireproofing material. Not to mention that most of the Jet A was consumed in the fireball that EXITED the building, burning up in mere SECONDS. Contrary to popular myth, it didn't continue burning after the initial fireball. So this argument is just hogwash top to bottom.
Originally posted by Jdawg9909
Originally posted by deltabomb
Isnt it strange how so many witnesses and truthers died in mysterious accidents or commited suicide after this event. Heres an incitful video to watch. www.youtube.com...
Hmmm and the fact that Flight 93 touched down in Cleveland before heading to Shanksville. Where they found NO BODIES in the wreckage.
Where the hell did all those people go?
Originally posted by Shadow Herder
I mentioned this before and I dont think anyone saw it......
Want to mess up debunkers lives and the make the perps sweat? Investigate everything about 9/11, 1 second before the first plane hit.
Who funded it? Did the 'terrorists' use the wargames as cover for the attack? How did they know about the war games? Did fema have any foreknowledge or just plain luck they were set up on pier 92 on Sept 10th 2001 anticipating a terrorist attack (exercise)? What did Ptech have to do with the FAA software? Did they electronically hijack the aircraft? Who trained the hijackers? Were Israeli agents living next door to the terrorists in the U.S for years? Did Israel play any part in the execution of the attack? Were american intelligence fooled? Electronically hijacked?
Start with these and forget thermite, cutting charges, pullit and whatever black hole conspiracy is promoted.