Is being stupid attractive?

reply to post by shimmeringsilver73


ya, you are a regular pseudo intellectualist,

of the pretentious type, along with most everyone here.

prove to me all you, ain't stupid.

.Intelligence is relative to the situation you are in.
If you think to much about hitting a ball ,you will get hit in the face.

reply to post by fooks


I wish I could, I really do. However, I cannot prove to you that I am not stupid as, no matter how many university degrees I may have, any act I perform that goes against your perception of acceptable, may be viewed as a stupid act.

Therefore, I do not think that any of us could prove to you, without any doubt, that they are not stupid.

I consider myself to be a fairly well balanced person but, goodness me, I have done some dumb things in my life, just the same as everyone else.

reply to post by TheLoneArcher


well, there ya go.

stupid is a perception.


and no one notices the ending remarks in that vid which is obviously patched in and wasn't charlie gibson?

she called him out at the beginning about the bush doctrine and he didn't clarify so she went with what she thought he meant.

probably just messing with his head, too.

and what's with the glasses charlie? looking like you are more intelligent than you are? lol!!

what character did dana harvey play on SNL? the library lady or something? lol!!

what a joke.

What is stupid? Everybody is stupid in some ways and smart in others. Some wordsmiths i've known have been ignorant on quite a few topics and some science minded individuals i've known have been quite ignorant of what poetry and the arts mean. You also can't use yourself as a measure because you will be called out on it (like you saying, Point Dexter instead of Poindexter).
Every human has a purpose which is only for them to find. Where someone is on their personal path or journey is not for us to know (although we can share, read "Garden of Forking Paths" by Jorge Borges).

Also, intelligence isn't all it's cracked up to be. Alfred Binet the "inventor" of the I.Q. test called passing a multiphased intelligence test as "stunts".

i am thinking you are more concerned with your "interests". [Although, i don't quite understand your term of "Attractiveness" in your question.] Maybe what interests you you see as "smart" and what interests someone else is perhaps "dumb". And the same can be said for someone you run up against and what they think of your intrerests, so they come off as maybe being arrogant or what you have interpreted as thinking they are "cool" and/or aloof.
"Coolness" is what somefolks use to pass off that they just aren't interested in what you have to say.

Examples of Paris Hilton or others who come across as vapid or airheads actually know more about their world than you or i do. Paris probably has a pretty wide idea of the hows and whos in the fashion industry and also probably has a fairly good idea on how banking and business work. The idea is to look for what the others know and not so much as tell them what you think you know (although my comment here seems to contradict that, but i'm merely sharing).
The human aspect that is inside of people is what makes them attractive. That thing that carries them through their lives, through their trials, glories, turmoils and proud moments. Their wonderment and sadddnesses when looking at the world, their amazement and caring, the twinkle in the eye that is where intelligence is.
A place to start seeing your (our) stupidity can be found in the following video.
Jeeze, when i look back at all the stupid things i've done and said you'd think i was socially retarded and inept (which i'm really not).
We are all pretty dumb, especially when love comes to town... and love and romance are about the smartest things humans have dwelled upon. In my opinion a sense of wonder is intelligent - inarticulate wonder and amazement...
Remember astronaut Lisa Nowak? She was attractive and a specialist in robotics, yet some could say pretty dumb.


Wait, wait for the moment to come
Stand up, stand up and take my hand
Believe, believe in mystery
Love is simple as 1-2-3
I’m a know-it-all, I’m smartest man around
That’s right, you learn real fast through the smartest girl in town
Here come a riddle, here come a clue
If you were really smart, you’d know what to do
When... I say
Jump back, sit back, get back, relax It’s ok
I’ve called in sick I won’t go to work today
I’d rather be with the one I love
I neglect my duties, I be in trouble but
I’ve been to college, I’ve been to school
I’ve met the people that you read about in books
Here come a riddle, here come a clue
If you are really smart you’d know what to do when I say
Jet pilot gone out of control, ship captain run aground
Stock broker make a bad investment when love has come to town
Where, where is my common sense?
How...did I get in a jam like this?
Believe, I believe in mystery
Love, love love love is simple as 1-2-3
Here come a riddle, here come a clue
If you were really smart, you’d know what to do when I say
Why am I going out of my head, whenever you’re around?
The answer is obvious, love has come to town

Originally posted by fooks
reply to post by shimmeringsilver73

 

ya, you are a regular pseudo intellectualist,

of the pretentious type, along with most everyone here.

prove to me all you, ain't stupid.

"Pseudo-intellectual??? Har har har hee hee har

Sorry Fooks, don't know what I did to upset you. Your attack on me is a bit unfounded.

I actually agreed with your earlier post on Palin - she did the best that she could with his mumbled and unintelligible question. Hell - I don't think any person could have improved on her answer

I really don't have qualms with you. Is it really so wrong for me to state that intelligence takes preference and is more attractive to me than physical beauty? Yes - intelligence and stupidy are all perception-based. There are different types of intelligence too. A book-learned intellectual may not actually possess any spontaneous intelligence, whereas an illiterate child on the streets may confound a person with an incredibly profound thought.

Originally posted by fooks
reply to post by shimmeringsilver73

 

... along with most everyone here.

prove to me all you, ain't stupid.

Ummm, Duh... nevermind i forgot what i was gonna say...

Of course being stupid is cool, even bands are making note of it..



And the end result will be... None other than the documentary called Idiocracy..




Ohh, did I say documentary.. Meant movie.. Stupid me..

Well i don't know about other,but stupid is not attractive for me.

About a year ago there was a campaign promoting clothes of a very well known brand and the main slogan was

"Be stupid"

They made it look like stupidity was something trendy/cool.I was so frustrated and i created a topic here.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

So to answer your question stupid is not attractive.It's the new trend.

As stated before, it's all about perceptions. I can easily be perceived as an individual who is an unitelligent jock, because I not only participate in athletics, but also I refuse to speak in class, and I make a mockery out of things I find ridiculous. However, when it comes down to it, I do not speak in a social setting willingly, unless I feel it necessary to drop some knowledge. And I just sit back and smile as I hear the same old propoganda and rhetoric from thoughtless drones, over and over, all the while thinking to myself "I can't wait to be all of their bosses". So go ahead, have preconceived notions of what you believe intelligent "looks like", but I for one am never going to argue with an idiot, because they will always drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Laziness + Ignorance + Arrogance = Stupid.

All the stupid people I know, no matter how "educated" have the above in common.

As long as you know you don't know enough, and are putting in an effort to rectify the situation ( impossible but worth a try ) , you cant be classified as stupid.

reply to post by fooks


Hey Fooks

You got me thinking now (it doesn't happen often, but I suppose EVERYBODY has to think sometimes hey) on that pseudo-intellectual stuff (I actually HAD to go and google the term to see what it REALLY means).

From Wikipedia:

The telltale sign of a pseudo intellectual is the superficial sprinkling and misuse of terms like "paradigm shift" and name dropping

And then there is this little gem found elsewhere:

Posseses a severe tendency to blindly and wholeheartedly believe any bull# they hear, only to subsequently regurgitate the misinformation to anyone they see in an asinine attempt to appear more intelligent than a used, broken condom.

Then I went and had a look at my previous posts. I haven't used the term "paradigm shift" before. I haven't name-dropped either... oh my... neither have I wholeheartedly believed anything ever written or stated nor have I regurgitated that information as fact...what AM I doing wrong???

For interest sake, what is your differentiation criteria in distinguishing between true intelligence, true intellectualism, and pseudo-intellectualism? And what was the common denominator in all our posts that made you paint all of us with the same brush?

being stupid is lack of wisdom in thoughts or action.

and in our society, many people identify, which explains the Congress of the USA.
stupid voters attracted to stupid politicians, voting against their interests.

myself, the times i remember feeling the most stupid, was giving first aid to a desert cat.
she had muscles that could tear me apart, there were no other humans around to help me.
but if i did nothing she was going to die.
yet, twice i saved her life and lived to tell about it.

but i felt extremely stupid for doing such a dangerous act.

reply to post by ThickHeaded


thanks for the clip on the movie For Sure.

watching the present election campaign in the USA, i keep asking myself, where is For Sure.

the stupids are attracted to each other, if only for a drunken moment, and they multiply like rats.

and the sober stupids belong to wacky, bizzaro churches that tell them to multiply like rats.

so many billions of stupids, and more under way.
our welfare system rewards stupidity, making it a career choice for many.
pregnant, diagnosed and certified, you have a career.
hey, it's for the kids, what would we do without the crack babies, the juvenile delinquents, and customers for our prison system.

stupid x stupid, there must be attraction, the numbers are evident.

reply to post by shimmeringsilver73


well hell, i apologize for my stupidity.



but really, all this "palin is stupid and dumb" doesn't hold water.


anyway, sorry if i came across not so friendly!

reply to post by shimmeringsilver73


ok, i apologized already, now i will tell you what i meant by pseudo intellectualizing is.

it is just being a pompous ass and talking over your head like many many do here. lol!!


throwing around poop they themselves don't even believe.

trying to impress someone else with dazzling word play that doesn't go anywhere and

for the win, someone that thinks they are better than another, based out of ignorance of the subject.

that crap does not impress me at all.

most people want to understand what you say.

you can't get your message across, then you are the idiot, no matter how large your vocabulary.

lol!

stupid being attractive? whatever floats your boat.

don't underestimate "stupid" people.

it is easier to play dumb than to play "intellectual".

thanks for the replys, i forgot what this whole thing is about!

Apparently Marilyn Monroe was a very astute, clever woman.

Yesterday I did something "stupid." I was driving and made a bad decision which nearly resulted in a multi-car crash. But really what I did was face a novel situation, make a mistake, and learn from it. I would not make the same decision again. So I was not really stupid, was I?

It seems to me that being stupid is something more than just being unintelligent or ignorant. It is the state of being oblivious to reality, or you could say, unwilling to learn from mistakes and unwilling to seek new knowledge.

Sort of like the GOP.

reply to post by Grumble


very clever!


star for you!

glad you didn't kill anyone too.

I guess I haven't been exposed to certain fads or movements happening in some parts of the globe....I know where I am (France) it is commonly popular to try to show you are capable of critical thought. This sometimes means that everyone seems hypercritical- whatever they see, hear, or read, they criticisize. Even if they liked it, they need to show they are not easily swept out of their ability to reason, analyze, and critique.

(I sometimes wonder if this is why Sartre came up with the looking for "nothingness" or "what is NOT there"- because the french end up seeming to be constantly on the watch for the negative. !)

I personally have some criticisms of intellectualism myself, however. Having come from a family of intellectuals, I tend to be distrusting of intellectual capacities, and even quite critical of them.

I keep deleting myself as I get carried away in the complexities of that point of view! Suffice it to say, that taken to an extreme, valuation of the intellect and reason tends to dominate and overide, if not stunt development, of the emotional skills. This is what I observe in individuals.

I observe that the emotional skills or emotional intelligence, is linked with social skills and abilities. The ability to bond with others, and create meaningful interactions, and comprehension of each other.

I also observe that the US has culturally gone very far into a sur-evaluation of the intellect, of reason, of independance, and that the events of the last ten years of so have really brought to our collective consciousness the awareness that we NEED to bond together, create solidarity, be LESS independant. Be more feeling, be more social.

But we aren't that good at t, we haven't developed those skills, nor even a comprehensive understanding of what that means, and Facebook along with other web communications has been the first steps towards trying. They're safe because they avoid body language and emotional contagion which americans have no idea how to deal with.

So as the pendelum swings from the former extreme, it may be going into an extreme of opposing nature- "don't think! Just feel!"
Be upbeat, fun, -not critical minded. Don't analyze, GIGGLE! You won't be passing your contagious negative emotions to those around you that way. And since we've all gotten used to being superheros in our head, we can't deal with criticism anyway, it makes us crazy mad, and this whole bonding and solidarity thing can't happen.

I seriously suspect this might be the root of the current movement. I say what I see of how things are, I am not sure I can say how they should be. Is there a better route for us to develop our emotional and social handicaps, without going to that extreme? I do not know.
It just may take time.

But also I agree with the person who said men do find women more attractive when they seem a bit missing in the intelligence department, as it makes a nice nothingness there for them to speak out and feel intelligent in contrast. So acting a bit dumb on purpose to wtach your man puff his chest out and act with confidence in public does happen.

Mine seems to appreciate it all the more because he knows I am acting, for his benefit, and that in private he can lean on my counsel without others knowing he did. I am his "hidden treasure" as he says.
So with that, I ad, beware superificial appearences.....