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posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 04:07 PM
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I am currently enrolled in a college level science class, which deals with the universe primarily.

Last week my professor said something that didn't sit well with me.

Although he strongly believes advance life living out there, he feels as if the sightings reported and how the media portrays it is just bull. He makes a valid point which I had never even thought of which is this-

If alien beings were traveling here from other galaxies, giving the distance of even the nearest Andromeda galaxy and even if they traveled at light speed, the beings would have to have left their home planet millions of years ago, while our ancestors were still little tadpole creatures floatin about.

I immediately think that he is only applying to what the educated human scientist in todays age knows, right?
So what I am asking- I mean, don't things like time/space change and affect our understandings the further we are from the sun, moon, our solar system? Also, wouldn't dimensions somehow play a part against his theory? Is it possible there are elements or energy which travel faster than light?

I am not an educated scientist so Im sorry If I have any contradicting points, thats just what I would like to ask of someone with more knowledge




posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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In a word, No...



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 04:12 PM
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Well, obviously the aliens would be smart enough to travel another way--one that doesn't require millions of days of travel. Some UFO researchers talk about worm holes-----shortcuts through the galaxies.

Us humans would be hard pressed to understand alien technology, because we don't have the knowledge of the Universe that we need to travel long distances.

But that doesn't mean that knowledge or capability doesn't exist.

It means we don't understand--from a human perspective.
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posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 04:23 PM
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post by TheWhaler
Although he strongly believes advance life living out there, he feels as if the sightings reported and how the media portrays it is just bull.

Generally speaking he's right , in the last few decades it would seem that quality UFO sightings have dried up but their are cases of old that could well point to the ETH .

As for distance and time to travel issues that's limited by our understanding of Space Time and the Universe , we have a piece of the puzzle , the problem is we don't know what the picture on the puzzle looks like , we are new to the game and I believe have a lot to learn about reality and time ,



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 04:23 PM
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He assumes that they (other extra terrestrial civilizations) have the same level of technological capability that we currently have which I think is not the right way to look at this.
It's a bit like the people that over a 100 years ago, thought that it would be impossible to fly.
Or the current communication technologies that we have today that let us speak almost real time to somebody on the other side of the planet would have been deemed impossible by the best scientist just a few hundred years ago.

I'm sure there are other physical laws that permit us to travel to other star without breaking Einstein's law of relativity... it's only a question of time before we discover it. Don't forget that we do not understand gravity as much as we understand electromagnetism and when we do, things will change greatly.



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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What your professor assumes is that alien technology is bound by the same rules and laws of physics that we currently accept.

My argument against that would be that UFOs and other such spacecraft (I don't personally believe in aliens from other planets, but that's another issue) are interdimensional... and not bound by the laws of our accepted (three) dimensions.

For more info on that, reserach string theory. It's really interesting stuff.

Now, for further argument regarding the interdimensionality of UFOs, just look into the accounts written. You'll find many instances where they suddenly disappear, then reappear at will... accounts where they make 90 degree turns or greater while travelling at immense speeds. Such things are only possible with an interdimensional twist



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by TheWhaler
I am currently enrolled in a college level science class, which deals with the universe primarily.

Last week my professor said something that didn't sit well with me.

Although he strongly believes advance life living out there, he feels as if the sightings reported and how the media portrays it is just bull. He makes a valid point which I had never even thought of which is this-

If alien beings were traveling here from other galaxies, giving the distance of even the nearest Andromeda galaxy and even if they traveled at light speed, the beings would have to have left their home planet millions of years ago, while our ancestors were still little tadpole creatures floatin about.

I immediately think that he is only applying to what the educated human scientist in todays age knows, right?
So what I am asking- I mean, don't things like time/space change and affect our understandings the further we are from the sun, moon, our solar system? Also, wouldn't dimensions somehow play a part against his theory? Is it possible there are elements or energy which travel faster than light?

I am not an educated scientist so Im sorry If I have any contradicting points, thats just what I would like to ask of someone with more knowledge


Whaler...I try not to say things like this but in this case....YOUR PROFFESOR IS AN IDIOT! Of course....travel at even Light speed....would mean it would take at a minimum 4 plus years to go to the nearest star to Earth...Proxima. And even if this speed was attainable in normal time'/space by matter....which it is not....acceleration would have to proceed at a VERY SLOW curve as to rapidly accelerate would turn everything inside a craft to a bloody pulp.

E.T. craft use two....that I know of....two methods of faster than light travel..."FTL"....1. Gravitic drive. By a method of generating a massive amount directed energy at a specific point to FOOL the Universe into believing it is actually MASS...thus a craft will "FALL" toward the created warpature and travel in what ever direction navigated.

2. FOLDING SPACE....a craft will again by a massive amount of created energy....most likely MATTER/ANTIMATTER REACTION....create a SINGULARITY that connects all and every concievable Universal point....ONE DIMENTIONALY. Thus the craft travels without moving....jumping point to point since in a ONE DIMENTIONAL UNIVERSAL STATE....everything is geometricly located at the same point.

Tell your teacher that I would be glad to give him a few pointers as I have at one time been a proffesorial assistant to a VERY NICE AND UNDERSTANDING MAN....who never had a bad word for a student who needed to ask a question or help with their studies. Split Infinity



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 04:47 PM
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Hi,

i readed an article which compare travel in space like going to the other side of a mountain. It's so much faster to dig a tunnel throught the montain and use it. I don't know if it's possible to apply this to space travelling

But if we can use a method like this, you'll not have any light speed issue.

PS : sorry for my poor english



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 04:52 PM
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Hi SplitInfinity,

i readed a lot of posts you writed. You seem to have a lot of knowledge. Can't you make some article gathering all of it and post it ? Like this space travel technology and other subjects. It will be a pleasure to read it.

Thanks



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by InterestedAboutIt
Hi,

i readed an article which compare travel in space like going to the other side of a mountain. It's so much faster to dig a tunnel throught the montain and use it. I don't know if it's possible to apply this to space travelling

But if we can use a method like this, you'll not have any light speed issue.

PS : sorry for my poor english


This is a very smart statement. it is very similar to a WORMHOLE and the analogy fits very nicely! GOOD SHOW! ps....Although I consider myself to be a very smart cookie....I can't spell worth a lick! Don't worry about your english as long as you continue to have something of value to say! LOL! Split Infinity



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 04:54 PM
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There's a reason that imagination and fantasy are a part of us. We're children in the eyes of the universe, but our arrogance tells us we know everything that is to know. Fact is, we don't know anything. Let's look back a bit over a hundred years ago, we knew we couldn't fly, zeppelins were the thing of the future, then came the Wright brothers.... you know the rest.

We always know what is to be known, but that changes each year. One can only imagine what we 'think' we know all about twenty years from now. I'm certain one day we will realize that we can't set boundaries to what we can do, and we will realize our potential.



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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Scientists today are just realizing that space can be warped. It's like bending a sheet of paper and traveling the shorter distance through one side of the paper to the other. Thus creating a much shorter distance of travel.

Scientist are also starting to realize their are many dimensions which could account for dimensional beings appearing in out of our own dimension.

I can't begin to explain the physics of it all, but just like one poster said, we can't look at our current technology and believe advanced aliens haven't exceeded it by leaps and bounds. It would be pretty ignorant on our behalf to think we are the only race that have achieved a high level of technology. Our technology could very well be primitive compared to beings who have lived 100 of thousands of years longer on other planets in the universe.

The possibilities are really unimaginable considering the billions of planets that exist in our universe.



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 05:06 PM
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If your professor thinks that other beings have the primitive way of traveling through space we have today, yes. But even with the technology some UFOs show. it could take them few years to travel between galaxies..



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 05:09 PM
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Time is a program in our brains. Period. We're in Infinity. Measurements cannot be taken. Place a dot anywhere on an infinite line, or amongst infinite fractals, and try to estimate something. Move the dot and try again to take an estimate. You always have the same = volume of endlessness surrounding you.

Now, the universe is also holographic. There is infinite energy here, but its imprinted into schools. Infinity has no limits or boundaries or its finite. Infinite energies, infinite variety of each infinite type.

Amongst the contacts I've had, the craft may appear, or for that matter the asteroid, that was a craft or base, may appear one size on the outside, but contain something very much larger inside. How? There is a potential infinity in each grain of sand. The infinity within each grain of sand is = to that within a star, and the infinity without both.

Higher Ups are Higher Ups, and advanced ETs are advanced ETs. This means, they're not using anthill science and anthill technology. And they've figured things out a lot better.

Another thing I was told is, as an examination was taking place, just before the lights went out and sleep fell instantly, "You Do Know This Is The Past Don't You?"

In an abduction after seeing the grey, that was actually pink colored not grey, the dream was like a cover report, a masked dream, in other words what they let me remember only. And the thing I'd asked all day was, Is There Time To Do Something.

The last part of the dream was, she shrugged as if they don't do time. Then she said, "This I will tell you, this day took 9 days to complete."

So, we're tests on top of everything else here. Earth is a school. To learn love, equality and peace. To overcome the opposition and the problems we have. And sometimes we can be in our private room where things are perceptions around us, whereas our families and loved ones may be ahead of us in the tests or behind us. Groundhog Day the movie may even take place for some at some moments, to some degree or other.

Et is many many things. The universe isn't what we think. And for the ETs that still would be facing those kind of questions. or rather the people on theri own planets, they would be in tests like us. And not far along in technolgy, because even the ones in tests in our channel, can advance to higher levels, than we've done. With more peace and unity. True eutopias exist even in our channel.

Its a school. Its all very Quantum, and Infinity, as in the Infinite Energy they've discovered, not void, is something to think very deeply on.

Along with materialism and matter, since there is no solid matter, just energy waves vibrating at different frequencies, though this feels solid in some way, and all energy upgrades too. Even elements. So space, with energy waves, is an ocean to higher levels. This fishbowl universe.
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posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 05:15 PM
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It is so funny to stumble across this thread because I just recently watched something on TV the other day saying humans are aliens! Makes some sense to meeee!!!



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by InterestedAboutIt
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Hi SplitInfinity,

i readed a lot of posts you writed. You seem to have a lot of knowledge. Can't you make some article gathering all of it and post it ? Like this space travel technology and other subjects. It will be a pleasure to read it.

Thanks


Thanks...that's a very nice thing to say. I try to post what I know about things....and although there are some things I am very well versed in....there are many things that I am not and would not presume to be so bold as to create some sort of article.

I will just try to keep up with what is posted here. If you have a question....I will do my best to answer it if I am knowledgable in that field. I am sure I can learn something from you as well. Split Infinity



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 05:19 PM
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My theory is this and I'm surprised your professor would be so narrow minded. Time can be sped up and slowed down. If a craft has the rate of time increased around it then it could reach very long distances in a short amount of time relative to the time that passes on its home planet. Of course the occupants of the craft would still have to endure the millions of years that it would take to travel. Unless!..the rate of time in the craft is also manipulated to slow to almost a stand still. In that case the occupants would travel great distances with very little time passing relative to to them. This would also explain why there are reports of craft taking off at incredible speeds. They could really be traveling at 50mph but because time was increased around the ship from our perspective it looks like warp speed. But it's just one of many possibilities.



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 05:21 PM
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Good movies to watch:

The never ending story.

Horton Hears a who.

Groundhog Day.

What Dreams May Come.

And this too:


Perception - The reality beyond matter


Butterfly effect Back down The Rabbit hole


Infinite Fractals Flight HD


Beyond our Universe - Infinity Zoom [HD].mp4

This song, its the ending that is the clue. Remember, no measurement can be taken. The infinity within is = to that without.

These really helped make sense of my experiences that I and my family has had. My son too with his missing time.

The last song, I stepped in, and Higher/Infinite Self, and lots of downloads day after day.

Movement doesnt exist. Each snapshot is like a clip in a roll of film that reappears only with change. Each clip exists forever. We'e walking through Infinite Clips of the Roll of Film of our Lives. It all exists infinitely in No Time, at once. We still have to walk the progression, or eventual progression, because here in this concrete jungle we're making it real, ie. No Harming others. For some it takes longer to realize this. But even a kazillion years is a nano second in some places.
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posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 05:21 PM
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Great, great answer!

Further proof that American academia (and academia in general) lacks imagination and critical thinking.

I might add here that everything that exists first started as a thought. You can read "thought" as imagination. Before someone made the couch that I am sitting on, they had to "imagine" it first and then create it.

Imagination is an important tool to creation, but one that is sadly lacking in our universities.



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity


E.T. craft use two....that I know of....two methods of faster than light travel..."FTL"....1. Gravitic drive. By a method of generating a massive amount directed energy at a specific point to FOOL the Universe into believing it is actually MASS...thus a craft will "FALL" toward the created warpature and travel in what ever direction navigated.

2. FOLDING SPACE....a craft will again by a massive amount of created energy....most likely MATTER/ANTIMATTER REACTION....create a SINGULARITY that connects all and every concievable Universal point....ONE DIMENTIONALY. Thus the craft travels without moving....jumping point to point since in a ONE DIMENTIONAL UNIVERSAL STATE....everything is geometricly located at the same point.




...that you know of....how in the hell is that. You my friend are just talking out of your (censored)



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