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Originally posted by Essan
reply to post by greenovni
Travellers are like hippies - just people who choose to follow a particular lifestyle. Some are Irish. Many are British.
Thye just don't like paying taxes or abiding by the law (though are quite happy to accept all the benefits they can grab) and are regarded as untrustworthy an not the sort of people you want living near by unless you have a 6" steel door and multiple locks on your garden shed.
(edit: to point out that not all are as bad, some indeed can be friendly and honourable (some I'm told), but as with all groups of people, the bad get all the press and bring the rest down with them)edit on 19-9-2011 by Essan because: (no reason given)
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Grotesque! .... amazing how wealthy these people are isn't it? I wonder how much income tax they pay? Maybe Inland Revenue should investigate.
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I could understand how sad is was for them in the programme when they showed a camp being demolished but we have laws in this country that say you cannot build without planning permission. If I built a house in my back garden without permission it would be demolished so why should it be different for anyone else? Sorry guys I know you all want to live in a closed community but if you want to be treated fairly then obey the laws of this land like the rest of us. - Mags, Exeter, 26/1/2011 00:32 They keep getting refused planning permission because, lets face it, people don't want travellers living close by.
I dont see how they can complain about their camp being demolished they are called travellers so travel!
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All over these articles and all over Twitter people are asking "where do they get their money from?" Is it anyone else's business?
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I feel really sorry for them. The narrator said 90% of those who apply for planning permission get rejected, even though they own the land. They should be able to build their homes on it. It is just discrimination- 90% of rich people don't get their planning permission rejected. We should be glad they are providing for themselves and not trying to score a council house.
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It was sickening how their homes were destroyed - yes, although they didn't have planning permission, they owned the land. If a middle class, tax-paying white family owned a comparable piece of land they would probably be given planning permission. Some of the views towards travellers and gypsies belong in 1930s Germany
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Grotesque! .... amazing how wealthy these people are isn't it? I wonder how much income tax they pay? Maybe Inland Revenue should investigate. - Susan, Wakefield, 26/1/2011 2:45
Inland Revenue are NOT allowed to investigate persons who are not registered/signed over to "The Corporation" by their parents when they are born (Birth Certificate)! So they have no legal jurisdiction over these Travellers whatsoever! They do not have National Insurance Numbers and the Police can not prosecute them via The Courts as they are not "within" the laws of The Corporation! Why else do you think they are being persecuted and their homes are being demolished?! Because the System is trying to FORCE them to conform like the rest of us Sheeples!!!
Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
People.. I must say, this treating of the gypsy or Pikey people are like some Americans treat black people with the term Nig - ger. Now, I know many of them you encounter do have traits that are less than desirable you cannot apply those terms to all of them.
I just read a bunch of stuff on them.. found out some history and that they use a language called Shelta. it seems like a made up language for people who want to speak without others knowing what they are talking about.. which seems most deceptive. It seems they are offended by the term Pikey. I tend to think not all of them must be bad people or do horrible things.
I had to learn this myself with the Mexicans. I hated them after the hurricane because they came in here in droves and committed crimes like crazy. I had to learn not to hate them all, only the ones that acted that way.
Originally posted by greenovni
ATSers are continuously are claiming all over this thread:
"Get a job, pay your taxes"
First of all, these "travelers" OWN their land! This means that they can do anything they damn well please as they have OWNERSHIP of said land!!!
How would you like some .gov A**hole going to YOUR house and telling you what to do or how to live?
Oh! I forgot, UK, NANNY STATE which runs your life & household thanks to the TAXES that you gladly pay to be bent over repeatedly...
I take it that you guys are just upset because these people are FREE (as most as they can be) and you are NOT...
PS. The bit about "get a job, pay your taxes" is nothing more than being accustomed to SLAVERY / being ROBBED by people who make it "legal" via legislation to do so. Remember, just because something is "legal" does not mean that it is LAWFUL!
Please wake up and understand that you too can be free from your tyrannical .gov but only if you have the balls
edit on 19-9-2011 by greenovni because: Learned new posting codes
Originally posted by Acidtastic
I know the scum will win in the end, but these bastards need to be fought. I support the settlers, becasue everyone has the right to try and make their lives better. The council are SCUM. Not the travellers.
Originally posted by Flyer
Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
I don't believe that Man should have to pay someone to build on the land he already paid for. Building permits are just an excuse for local governments to make money.
Not true, Im currently trying to block the house next door to me from building and extension. If it was built, I wouldnt even be able to see the sky from one of my rooms.
I wonder how much youd like a nightclub or sports stadium to be built next door to you.