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Dis info Alex Jones admits he's using sublminal messages to fool the ignorant

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posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 12:48 AM
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Originally posted by ludshed
reply to post by FallenWun
 

Yet again you still refuse to answer the question; WHAT TOPIC/Point would you like confirmation on? I'd like to see if you're right.


Listen, if you want to talk specifics jump into one of the threads that gets specific. You are jumping all over a response to someone else that you seemed to read the wrong way. Alex Jones spends a lot of time saying a lot of things that are not true. If you do not like my view, too damn bad. If you really want to discuss something specific, well like you said it is all I post about so pick one of the other million AJ threads my programming has me posting on.

You want me to prove he is a liar about something specific in this thread.

I want anyone to prove to me he has revealed any truths in any of these threads.

See how we both dont get what we want and the weight of each against the other?

When I say the man is a con artist that is my opinion. If I start a thread on it, I would have to supply something substantial. That is just the thing, Alex never proves anything he says so why should I have to prove he is a liar? Why can't anyone just prove any of his crap is true?

They can't. All they can do is attack me for calling him out. That is really all you have done.
edit on 19-9-2011 by FallenWun because: (no reason given)




posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by ludshed
reply to post by FallenWun
 

Yet again you still refuse to answer the question; WHAT TOPIC/Point would you like confirmation on? I'd like to see if you're right.




Number 4 is a good one. Can you show the link between "Walmart and the Fema camps".

Number 9, link us to the source that backs his position on satellite heat resonance tracking of people at gun shows.

Most of this stuff falls under exaggerations more than anything. Easy enough to argue semantics on a lot of it, but at the same time, if Jones has the full story, he is lying by exaggeration.



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 01:12 AM
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Scratch my last post, can AJ supporters post some confirmation of these predictions?




posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by Signals
Anybody notice how the attacks on Alex Jones have been amplified as of late?

Alex wakes people up, it's as simple as that.


Alex Wakes people up to the fact theres shills like him all around us.



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 07:21 AM
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And here's another thing...Alex Jones believes in "Jesus" he's a christian and tries to convince others that Jesus is real, more disinfo, and read the comments again, you see people saying "oh alex im so glad you believe in jesus" whatever credibility he has is lost
Alex himself has converted many people over to christianity, with his subliminal messages technique, that he uses in his videos.
I read a comment on one of Alex's videos where someone said "i never believed in jesus, but if anyone can save us it's ron paul, since i know god is on his side"


How is jesus being real disinfo? =/ seems like you're anti-christianity, i bet thats why this thread was made, yet it uses the cover of Alex jones just so it stays up.



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 09:06 AM
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Alex jones is a talk show host,.
I mean what more can i say? if you listen to him and just take his word for it then the fault is yours not anyone else. as you was told is school, Do your own homework



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by boncho
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Scratch my last post, can AJ supporters post some confirmation of these predictions?



A failed prediction is a failed prediction, not a lie. Since you said to scratch the post before it, I did. Now you have no arguments. I'll go ahead and scratch your last post too.



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 12:32 PM
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1.You are putting a label on Alex Jones to elevate yourself or to discredit him. (you are calling him dis-info agent).

2.I have already started a thread about using labels on people here :

Why do ATS members just put their labels on eachother ?

3.AJ was the one who penetrated Bohemian Groove and provided us with information about them

4.Read my signature for specifications of Diss-info agents.

5.


and now your not critically analyzing the data that the host is saying.



That is your problem of mind. Every body makes mistakes. And may be he did. You should always do your own analysis. It is your duty , not him.



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 12:40 PM
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Exactly what information about Bohemien grove do you have from Alex? I have seen the entire video. What did you learn? Who goes there? Where it is? What they do?
All I saw was a bunch of people that were not the least bit recognizable in the woods. Where were all the elite? Where were all the rich and powerful people?
Seriously, exactly what did Alex expose about the place?
Not what do you think he exposed, what did he actually expose?



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 12:52 PM
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You are claiming that he did nothing.

He remembered me of Elites and the people who try make ladders of other dead people.

He reminded me about dirty wars and agendas that are taking place.

I did more researches Bohemian Groove and I found some facts about them , as I trust my own mind and my investigations.

I was sharper when I found out about :

Freemasonry
New World Order
Illuminati
Zionism
The Power That Never Was

I began my own journey to seek out the truth.



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by FallenWun
reply to post by hmdphantom
 


Exactly what information about Bohemien grove do you have from Alex? I have seen the entire video. What did you learn? Who goes there? Where it is? What they do?
All I saw was a bunch of people that were not the least bit recognizable in the woods. Where were all the elite? Where were all the rich and powerful people?
Seriously, exactly what did Alex expose about the place?
Not what do you think he exposed, what did he actually expose?

It is in Monte Rio, California on a 2,700 acre campground. This information is very easily found. As far as what they do there, little is known. Mock human sacrifices(or real?)..David Gergen, who admitted he is a member, was quoted in I think the New York times, that he didn't run around in the woods naked like everyone else did. Gay porn stars are guests at the Grove every year I have heard. Supposedly, Nixon said "it was the most god damned faggy thing I've ever seen". They also worship a 40 foot statue of the demon god Moloch. Take from that what you will.




posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 01:08 PM
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I don't listen to AJ much but I am on his YT email subscriptions list and I recall watching a video where he was talking about how the MSM, namely Fox, uses their sets, bright colors, and scrolling tick tape news to hypnotize/use subliminal messages on their viewers, and with that he says they also employ similar tactics on his show to keep the attention of his viewers, mainly to attract those not "awake". His set is OKAY and whatever tactics he uses he admits and says he does it for the good of the people, to fight fire with fire, so to speak, but whatever strategy he is using I doubt it's anywhere near as effective as MSM.



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by Merlin Lawndart
It is in Monte Rio, California on a 2,700 acre campground.


Epic failure on your part here to read my question?


This information is very easily found.


Right. There is a campground in California. That is what you learned from his video. There are campgrounds all over the country. Scared now?


As far as what they do there, little is known. Mock human sacrifices(or real?).


Or none of that? I asked what was learned from the video. I asked what Alex exposed. You guessing is not really an answer to that question is it?


.David Gergen, who admitted he is a member, was quoted in I think the New York times, that he didn't run around in the woods naked like everyone else did.


And where exactly in the video was any of that confirmed again? I did not see one person running around naked or David Gergen. What minute mark am I missing?

Gay porn stars are guests at the Grove every year I have heard.


You have heard?

You are killing me. I specifically asked what Alex exposed. I already know what you have heard.


Supposedly, Nixon said "it was the most god damned faggy thing I've ever seen".


Which tells you exactly what? Please be specific.


They also worship a 40 foot statue of the demon god Moloch. Take from that what you will.


Well Moloch is a bull and the video was about an owl.




So you learned that there is a campground in California and that is all you learned from the video. Thank you.



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by hmdphantom
reply to post by FallenWun
 


You are claiming that he did nothing.


I claimed nothing. I asked you a question.


He remembered me of Elites and the people who try make ladders of other dead people.


What? I totally missed the corpse ladders in the video. I got to watch it again.


He reminded me about dirty wars and agendas that are taking place.


Too bad you needed someone to remind you there is evil in the world and much of it is in positions of power. It is actually kind of sad that people need someone to tell them that but ok. Too bad much of what he reminds you of is made up as he goes along and has never been proven. Look how you all react to questions about the validity of his claims? You all freak out and go into this vague proclamation/attack mode but NEVER actually prove anything about Alex being honest or right.


I did more researches Bohemian Groove and I found some facts about them , as I trust my own mind and my investigations.


I would love to read all about it. Or are you just bragging about something you do not intend to share? Is this your version of internet credentials? You know, you claim to know or have done something but do not feel the need to back it up? Let me predict yes.


I was sharper when I found out about :

Freemasonry
New World Order
Illuminati
Zionism
The Power That Never Was

I began my own journey to seek out the truth.


I guess you have no idea what I just asked you about that video then. You would be amazed at how little credit I give to people that claim to be so knowledgeable from their own research when they again and again demonstrate a complete failure in ability to read or comprehend simple short English sentences.

Shall I ask again?



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien
 

S/F for a solid and well grounded post about the Alex Jones Empire. He really has created a fringe media Empire for himself. He has a following with downright fanatic fans among the masses, he has revenue streams coming from many different directions and he gets his Ego/Self Image tended to on a daily basis.

To be fair, he does treat people who disagree with respect. He'd actually taken a post I'd made and made an example of it by name on his radio show one day. I'd very strongly disagreed on a story Prison Planet ran and I was rather severe about how I wrote a response. Most sites I've seen would have erased it or even dumped my account outright. He made a rather pointed, but respectful segment showing how 'wrong' I was. So...AJ has his good and bad. I left his 'network' of sites due to finally having all I could take of the EXTREME fringe of conspiracy folk.

The subliminal charge is a bit of a surprise though given AJ of ALL people caters to an audience who actually watch for those things and have software to automatically scan for it. That is one risky move on his part if he's taking it to subliminal messaging's logical end. I wouldn't call the things he runs in the background subliminal messaging though. That's just good marketing and all media does it in similar format shows.

AJ fans fall for the extreme stuff because they want to. I don't think Alex Jones has to work TOO hard at giving them enough to hang their tin foil hat on, IMHO.
Alex E Jones... Is the "KING OF ALL CONSPIRACY THEORIES"... that are true "Allegedly"


Butbutbut HEY!!!... it's a 'Dirty Jobs'... Butt someone has to do it
... Great discovery on his channel by the way of the master


Mr WHO-EVER... remembering some guy(JESUS aka?) who said; "No prophet/profit is welcome on his homee turf; doctors don't cure those who know them"



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 01:58 PM
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This is laughable.

So, he's exposed the 'tricks' used by the MSM to garner support... Why wouldn't he use similar tactics - no matter how 'sinister' - that are proven to work, to spread his own message?!

CONSPIRACY!!! dumb dumbs.



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 02:30 PM
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WAKE PEOPLE UP? Are you kidding? AJ just puts people into a deeper coma where they develop a taste for freeze dried food and see themselves as Silver-Lungs-Super-Heroes.

His New World Order is deliciously vague and never seems to have anything to do with Corporations. For AJ Government is always NWO connected and the only bad guy.

If you want some real wake-up go listen to Amy Goodman on Democracy Now



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 02:40 PM
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I try to be productive and friendly . But you seem to be all knowing man around and the man with proofs.

so, What can I do ?

You already have the proofs and you always know why ? You even know how ? ( You are the very successful one in your personal life)

I think you better make a course for people without any proof or documents.

But I am not going to be your student.

good luck.


Edited : You don't want to inform people and you just want to tell people " Hey people I know ".

So if you have any real proof that AJ is a diss-info agent tell me. Otherwise ....
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posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien
Get this!
Alex Jones said that Hollywood is owned by.........ARABS...the saudis or w/e
I mean, come on.




I'm one of those many people who watches movies at the theaters on a regular, weekly basis, sometimes more frequently. Recently, I've noticed more and more films having an Arabic logo, I believe it's Dubai, representing either the backers or production company. This is a rather new thing, but it is not a subtle thing. This is happening more and more, much like how LionsGate has its key lock cgi graphic appear all over the place in the past few years. To say the ARABS own Hollywood may be exaggerated, but to say they are taking over is not far from the present reality. It would probably cost someone about 100-200 dollars to confirm, by viewing a steady stream of current movies, but if you are like me, you might have already noticed some eerie truth to the claim.

That's what Jones is, a histrionic interpretation of the Pulse of the Country.



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by boncho

Originally posted by Signals
Anybody notice how the attacks on Alex Jones have been amplified as of late?

Alex wakes people up, it's as simple as that.


Wakes them up to idiocy?



Ask yourself, would you want the world run by Alex Jones'? I sure as hell wouldn't. That right there makes him a circus act, not a leader.

When someone comes along and actually "wakes people up", people will respect that person.


First, might I point out that, whether I would like Alex to run the world or not is irrelevant to the information He offers. I'm sure there's a label for that approach... (Shoot the messenger?)

Second, I do not "follow" Alex so much as I listen and apply critical thinking, meshing what He offers with other data I have collected. I contemplate the probability of any given thing He says, within this thought matrix. I contrast and compare. I consider the logic that might exist behind to motivate the things He reports on.

Third, I plan to change the planet. No One will follow anyOne who has not shown Themselves to be dedicated to the Betterment of the universe. So... Alex will garner the following He deserves.

Frankly, Based on the second, I conclude that a high percentage of what He offers is likely the truth. Some I haven't enough data on, and the range I might consider "close" is all over the place. And a few bits I wonder if He has been "gotten to."

I figure that anyOne who dismisses Him as "idiocy" instead of using Him as a tool for information processing will likely be One who does not think critically, has a pet view of the universe They maintain at all costs against any fact, or are of a spooky nature.

Hmmm.




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