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Originally posted by Amaterasu
reply to post by filosophia
Some of those did, yes. Make My head spin. But the first lies on the ground that something can't come from nothing. This can be shown to be false in that virtual particles "spring from nothing." Or would You call them and their energy nothing?
And, in truth... How do We KNOW something cannot come from nothing?
Originally posted by Amaterasu
reply to post by filosophia
Some of those did, yes. Make My head spin. But the first lies on the ground that something can't come from nothing. This can be shown to be false in that virtual particles "spring from nothing." Or would You call them and their energy nothing?
And, in truth... How do We KNOW something cannot come from nothing?
Originally posted by Julie Washington
...and it still doesn't answer what came first...
the chicken or the egg?
Originally posted by filosophia
Originally posted by Amaterasu
reply to post by filosophia
Some of those did, yes. Make My head spin. But the first lies on the ground that something can't come from nothing. This can be shown to be false in that virtual particles "spring from nothing." Or would You call them and their energy nothing?
And, in truth... How do We KNOW something cannot come from nothing?
We know something can not come from nothing, because a tree does not come from nothing, it comes from a seed. A person does not come from nothing, it comes from a womb. Fire does not come from nothing, it comes from heat. Heat does not come from nothing, it comes from the sun or an external source. Using that logic, they assume that the universe itself must also obey this law.
Something is called "virtual" because it is not real. Like a virtual girlfriend. If from nothing comes a virtual particle, that particle still does not have any reality to it, otherwise it would not be a virtual particle, but simply a particle. They say 'virtual' particle because they can't get around the axiom that nothing comes from nothing. And even if a virtual particle comes into existence, no matter how many virtual particles you add together, you can't have a real particle, in the same way that you can't add imaginary numbers together in the hopes that you will get a real number.
Originally posted by Julie Washington
...and it still doesn't answer what came first...
the chicken or the egg?
Originally posted by patternfinder
Originally posted by Julie Washington
...and it still doesn't answer what came first...
the chicken or the egg?
they both came at the same time, what is in the egg? a chicken......think about it real hard
Originally posted by patternfinder
Originally posted by Amaterasu
reply to post by filosophia
Some of those did, yes. Make My head spin. But the first lies on the ground that something can't come from nothing. This can be shown to be false in that virtual particles "spring from nothing." Or would You call them and their energy nothing?
And, in truth... How do We KNOW something cannot come from nothing?
pics or it ain't true!!!
you have to show me some documentation that suggests virtual particles "spring from nothing", these "virtual particles are actually atoms imitating other atoms....so, they do not "spring from nothing"
Originally posted by Julie Washington
...and it still doesn't answer what came first...
the chicken or the egg?
Originally posted by filosophia
Originally posted by patternfinder
Originally posted by Julie Washington
...and it still doesn't answer what came first...
the chicken or the egg?
they both came at the same time, what is in the egg? a chicken......think about it real hard
What came first, the male or the female?
Originally posted by Amaterasu
Originally posted by patternfinder
Originally posted by Amaterasu
reply to post by filosophia
Some of those did, yes. Make My head spin. But the first lies on the ground that something can't come from nothing. This can be shown to be false in that virtual particles "spring from nothing." Or would You call them and their energy nothing?
And, in truth... How do We KNOW something cannot come from nothing?
pics or it ain't true!!!
you have to show me some documentation that suggests virtual particles "spring from nothing", these "virtual particles are actually atoms imitating other atoms....so, they do not "spring from nothing"
Where do You get THIS from. I'll source if You will.
Originally posted by CharterZZ
reply to post by filosophia
It just goes to show that the human language we have made up just isnt good enough to describe the universe.
Or alot of other things for that matter.
Interesting read anyhow.edit on 18-9-2011 by CharterZZ because: (no reason given)