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If Elenin Is Gone, What's This?

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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by loves a conspiricy

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Obviously not.




posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 12:25 PM
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I'll say Jupiter. Here on the East coast at those hours it is quite close to the moon and those are the last two objects viewable as it gets light. I have been viewing Jupiter in my scope if I get up early enough before work.
it is east when it first can be viewed and moves SE to S by morning.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 12:38 PM
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I'm glad you enjoy my posts now but that could change.

I'm pretty sure what you saw was Sirius though. It's the brightest star in the sky.
Jupiter rises at about 9PM in Arizona.

earthsky.org...

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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 01:01 PM
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Being a mild conspiracy enthusiast, as opposed to a conspiracy theorist, I think I can manage to stay on your good side. It could have been Sirius, it just seemed to me to be something that was much closer and reflecting the light of our sun. I actually thought ISS (which is visible in our early morning sky but due South, not East), or the reentering UARS, or something, at first. I'm going to get up early tomorrow morning and see if I can capture it again with a camera that's at least 8mp better.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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It wasn't Sirius. Sirius was in the South at that time. Both Venus and Mercury were rising in the East at that time though. I'm leaning towards Venus as it seems to fit the reports better. I would post a screenshot, but image uploads are disabled right now.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 01:41 PM
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Sirius is in the southeast at dawn.
The object in the images it is to the right of the sunrise, the southeast.
Mercury rises slightly before the Sun and is barely visible.
Venus rises after the Sun and is not visible.
www.skyandtelescope.com...


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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 01:42 PM
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From what I've been able to find so far, Venus and Saturn were in that part of the sky at 17:30 UTC, but were below the horizon at 12:45-13:30 UTC when my pictures were taken.


Horizon View East 12:38 UTC

Also, wasn't quite far enough South to be Sirius.

Horizon View South East

Full Sky at that time showing Jupiter in the Western Sky.

Full Sky 12:38 UTC


Sky maps are as observed from Yuma, AZ at this time, which is 3 1/2 hours Southwest of me.

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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
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You're right it's not Jupiter. I just checked Stellarium for myself and found that it was Venus. It even had a star directly below it like you describe. Unfortunately the star was too close to Venus for me to click on so I couldn't find out which star it was exactly.


I think the star below Venus was:

Zaniah (n Vir) - HIP 60129
Magnitude: 3.85 (B-V:0.04)
Absolute magnitude: -0.57
Spectral Type: A2IV
Distance 249.74 LY

Here's a screen grab:
i1106.photobucket.com...
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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 06:26 PM
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Welcome to ATS...
Hopefully you've got tough skin..and lots of patience (:



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 08:49 PM
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Now the local news stations are saying that it's a weather balloon from Mexico. I guess that's the standard answer when they really don't want you to know what it is.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by EpitomeInternational

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