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Elenin may not have disintegrated at all - Please try and Debunk this

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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:04 AM
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I am no astronomer, so maybe someone can read this document and shed some light on the information contained within.


www.thewatchtowers.com...



To summarise, Elenin cannot be a comet as it exhibits gravitational microlensing as it passes directly over a background star. It is calulated to be approxiately 20 times the mass of our Earth based on the data available and the analysis provided within the document that I have linked.

Once again, I am no astronomer and I throw this out to my fellow ATS'ers as food for thought.




posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:09 AM
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Yeah something will happen around that time.

I have some access to government systems and it's clear something is up.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:10 AM
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But, like, didn't it disappear?



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:11 AM
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Originally posted by RenegadeScholar
But, like, didn't it disappear?



Please read the article, then ask questions.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:11 AM
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Originally posted by XplanetX
Elenin may not have disintegrated at all



The web page you link to has no information at all on the tread title = the alleged lack of disintegration.

Edit - also not a single one of the links in that document work for me - they all seem to be malformed.

edit on 18-9-2011 by alfa1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:12 AM
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Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by XplanetX
Elenin may not have disintegrated at all



The web page you link to has no information at all on the tread title = the alleged lack of disintegration.




It discusses the dimming of the celestial body.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:13 AM
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Originally posted by no special characters
Yeah something will happen around that time.

I have some access to government systems and it's clear something is up.


Sounds interesting


But instead of giving this, hmmmm, inaccurate Statement you should provide
a little bit more than your Contribution



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:15 AM
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Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by XplanetX
Elenin may not have disintegrated at all



The web page you link to has no information at all on the tread title = the alleged lack of disintegration.



From the article:

Various astronomers are saying the “comet” is disintegrating, mostly based on it’s suddenly getting brighter, then darker, as they assume the ball of ice is vaporizing into ice crystals. However, the author thinks the lensing effect may explain the brightening, and darkening. The lack of an appreciable coma is consistent with a high gravity object.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:22 AM
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Originally posted by XplanetX
Various astronomers are saying the “comet” is disintegrating, mostly based on it’s suddenly getting brighter, then darker, as they assume the ball of ice is vaporizing into ice crystals. However, the author thinks the lensing effect may explain the brightening, and darkening.




The argument in the document is that sudden BRIGHTENING of *a background star* is caused by the comet.
however
here you state that the sudden DIMMING of *the comet by itself* is the exact same thing.

Can you at least put a single consistent story forward?

Edit - also the BRIGHTENING of *a background star* only happens for individual frames of the animation
the DIMMING of *the comet by itself* has been going continuously for a whole month now.
Do you really wish to say that they are the same thing?

edit on 18-9-2011 by alfa1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:24 AM
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You really want to go down that rabbit hole ? In one reply you manage to call me a liar, you discredit my warning AND you command me to do something?

That's rather rude isn't it?



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:32 AM
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this started off great, then it got into realms of Illuminati fantasy..

can we get anyone to debunk the great bits?



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:35 AM
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Originally posted by Beavers
this started off great, then it got into realms of Illuminati fantasy..

can we get anyone to debunk the great bits?



Welcome to ATS.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:38 AM
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IF it really was 20 times the mass of earth like it says in that silly article, dont you think its gavity would have affected other planets???

Think about it.
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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:43 AM
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Originally posted by XplanetX


Once again, I am no astronomer


And neither is the guy who wrote that nonsense you linked too.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:45 AM
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Originally posted by CharterZZ
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IF it really was 20 times the mass of earth like it says in that silly article, dont you think its gavity would have affected other planets???

Think about it.
edit on 18-9-2011 by CharterZZ because: (no reason given)



If you look at the trajectory of Elenin, it does not really get very close to any of the inner planets of our solar system as it comes in.

ssd.jpl.nasa.gov...



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:46 AM
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Originally posted by pazcat

Originally posted by XplanetX


Once again, I am no astronomer


And neither is the guy who wrote that nonsense you linked too.




Thank you for your contribution, it clears up a lot for me and others.




posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:52 AM
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On July 31st, Elenin passed roughly 7 million kilometers from the NASA Stereo B probe. If this were anything like 20 times the mass of Earth or similar to other very dire predictions and descriptions then I would have expected Stereo B to have been thrown off into space at BEST....more likely, totally destroyed by such an enormous gravity well passing SO close to it. I was actually watching with one eye that day to see if anything at all occurred. Elenin passed, nothing happened and Stereo B got some half way decent pictures.

I completely agree that this lack of proof being used to prove Elenin's destruction is pretty weak. I wonder if the brightening and dimming might just as likely been the ice covering of a more rocky core being burned off and exhausted. I sure haven't seen pictures of debris or multiple pieces. Elenin just seemed to dim and 'wink out' of existence. I doubt we'll ever *KNOW* what happened for certain after that CME side swiped our favorite little comet.

The fact that NASA probe still exists should tell everyone that Elenin was absolutely no threat as far back as late July, let alone anything since. It may not have died....I'm not sure it did. Whatever is left isn't going to do anything but limp back off into deep space though. Nothing to see here....IF there ever had been.

The world governments ARE getting ready for something. The 100's of billions spent just don't lie. Something has them worried...but Elenin wasn't it. The fact Elenin wasn't even known to exist until 2010 should say alot of how much more could be out there and discovered almost entirely by accident.

edit on 18-9-2011 by Wrabbit2000 because: Correction on distance



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:53 AM
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Of course there will always be a theory to explain Elenin's incapacity to deliver Nibiru Doom.

1) First it was a Brown Dwarf. Then EleTards realised it couldn't be as it would reflect light.

2) Then the EleTard discovered Electric Universe. All of a sudden Elenin could cause doom by just being a comet!

3) What now, gravitional microlensing? We're back to Elenin being something massive, yet invisible? 'gro please.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:55 AM
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Thanks Wrabbit2000, you make a very good point regarding the NASA probe.

Cheers.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:58 AM
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Once again, I am no astronomer


XplanetX,

Neither am I. I read the article and I do not think that the author is one either. But a rather incredible paranoid conspiracy theorist...


Millions of people are VERY worried about this “comet”, and that is permitting the filthy bankers all the time they need to set us up for WWIII.


Really ?


Here is a video being pushed by Leonid Elenin (CIA disinfo guy)


REALLY ??


One example of a hidden illuminati warning is the new Texas license plate


Is that so ???


US Navy Space Command disinfo


But of course...



(daddy Bush killed JFK, baby Bush killed JFK jr).


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....


I won't mention his awful bits about ONE individual on GLP
X2 stopping worldwide panic this summer !!!



Sorry. This article is only good to print out and use as emergency toilet paper in case the SHTF....


Nothing personal.

edit on 18-9-2011 by SonoftheSun because: mixes words.




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