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Drug deaths now outnumber traffic fatalities in U.S., data show

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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 02:54 AM
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Drug deaths now outnumber traffic fatalities in U.S., data show


www.latimes.com

Fueling the surge are prescription pain and anxiety drugs that are potent, highly addictive and especially dangerous when combined with one another or with other drugs or alcohol.

Propelled by an increase in prescription narcotic overdoses, drug deaths now outnumber traffic fatalities in the United States, a Times analysis of government data has found.

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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 02:54 AM
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Whose fault is this? It doesn't necessrily sound like mis-use by the user but a wave of pharma solutions to the world's problems by drugging the people legally. We start them on this road as kids.


Fueling the surge in deaths are prescription pain and anxiety drugs that are potent, highly addictive and especially dangerous when combined with one another or with other drugs or alcohol. Among the most commonly abused are OxyContin, Vicodin, Xanax and Soma. One relative newcomer to the scene is Fentanyl, a painkiller that comes in the form of patches and lollipops and is 100 times more powerful than morphine.

Such drugs now cause more deaths than heroin and coc aine combined.


The problem doesn't really come from the illicit users so nearly as much as those just following doctors' orders, and following them with a bit too much social cheer in many of the most dangerous cases, it would appear. What to give up, good health, good cheer, or good old-fashioned Doctors' advice?


In some ways, prescription drugs are more dangerous than illicit ones because users don't have their guard up, said Los Angeles County Sheriff's Sgt. Steve Opferman, head of a county task force on prescription drug-related crimes. "People feel they are safer with prescription drugs because you get them from a pharmacy and they are prescribed by a doctor," Opferman said. "Younger people believe they are safer because they see their parents taking them. It doesn't have the same stigma as using street narcotics."


www.latimes.com
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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 03:06 AM
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On one hand you have a point. Doctors should warn patients about side effects and/or complications with other drugs.

On the other hand, a bag of marbles at walmart says "do not eat"

Thin the herd.
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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 03:29 AM
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Funny how the legal drugs kill the most people; alcohol, tobacco, and prescription drugs.


The seeds of the problem were planted more than a decade ago by well-meaning efforts by doctors to mitigate suffering, as well as aggressive sales campaigns by pharmaceutical manufacturers. In hindsight, the liberalized prescription of pain drugs "may in fact be the cause of the epidemic we're now facing," said Linda Rosenstock, dean of the UCLA School of Public Health.
I know a simple solution to lots of these painkiller deaths, but unfortunately the T&C doesn't allow me to say what...

I found this to be really screwed up:

"They said they will have parties where the kids will throw a bunch of pills in a bowl and the kids take them without knowing what they are," Lori said.
Who would do that?



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 03:36 AM
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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 03:38 AM
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there was a tv program about florida and it's pill stores, and a few days later, a local newspaper article about a large bust of drugs from florida.

with florida selling those pills as they were chewing gum, the whole east coast is being flooded.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 03:45 AM
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For those who need these power pain relievers, those who may be terminal or have to live with chronic pain, what cost for being pain-free? Can we afford to live our lives or even pass away comfortably?


Those prescriptions provide relief to pain sufferers but also fuel a thriving black market. Prescription drugs are traded on Internet chat rooms that buzz with offers of "vikes," "percs" and "oxys" for $10 to $80 a pill. They are sold on street corners along with heroin, marijuana and crack. An addiction to prescription drugs can be costly; a heavy OxyContin habit can run twice as much as a heroin addiction, authorities say.


Not by the looks of it is Pharma going to let us slip by without paying a heavy toll to be at ease. Twice as expensive as heroin?!? Heroin doesn't cost nearly as much to produce as the cost of illicit heroin, in a free-market it would cost pennies, pennies without big brother's drug wars, or big Pharma daddy taking his due. Can a person with pain sustain if he has to lay out $80 for each pill? A 30-day supply of Marinol costs $900. Who can afford this?

I'm not sure some of these overdoses are not just suicides, suicides by those with chronic pain that can't take the bread form their families to buy them some relief. I'm afraid part of the problem may be those who can afford to take an overdose may eventually do so to spare their family's nest-egg if they are lucky enough to have one, or spare them major debt just so the suffering individual can live with himself.

These drugs do not have to cost so much. If an oxycontin costs $10 - $80 a pop something is wrong here. If I have severe chronic pain or am terminal in an indefinite time, please, let me grow poppies so I can opiate myself innexpensively and not be such a burden on my loved ones.

Thanks for being there for me, Big Pharma. Don't know what I would do without you, bloodsuckers!


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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 03:50 AM
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Originally posted by josh2009s

I know a simple solution to lots of these painkiller deaths, but unfortunately the T&C doesn't allow me to say what...


I'm sure for those who need them and for those whose doctors prescribe them your solution is very humane, no?



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 03:57 AM
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If the majority of these people were abusing the drugs and going out driving and causing fatalities those traffic stats this is being compard with would go up too. So that does not appear to be the case. Where are the bulk of these drug fatalities coming from, the legitimate users whose medicines were prescribed, or the illicit users of these "safe" pharma drugs?



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 04:58 AM
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Bee string deaths inside the USA far out number of deaths coursed by terrorists and yet the USA is spending $2.5bn a day fighting wars and the USA is not even under attack but it soon will be if the zionist puppets are allowed to keep boming people all over the world.

No it's not a typeing error, it realy is $2.5bn a day or put another this is more than the deficit that is growing at $1.4tr a year according to the offical figures and you wonder why the USA is in trouble and people are homeless and out of work.

"MONTGOMERY — Andrew Pacini, who was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer last July and went without treatment for two months because he had no health insurance, died Monday. He was 56.

Pacini was featured in a July 28 article in the Times Herald-Record about critically ill people who have no health insurance. It's an issue health-care consumers, hospitals, doctors and the health-care industry have been grappling with for years.

"He had no insurance, and nobody would help him," said his wife, Rhonda Pacini.

Pacini's COBRA insurance expired in June, and he was turned down for Medicaid. His income of $1,530 a month, combined with Rhonda's $800, and the home they own, made him ineligible. His chemotherapy and other treatments were halted."

Read more

God the editor on this site with it's single line popup input box is the biggest load of crap known to man !



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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:04 AM
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It is very easy to create the Pills in that way that not sooooo many People die
or getting addicted by them, but it is not soooo cheap!

Look for example the Oxicodone Pills,
since they got the new slow release Form
the numbers of fatal Overdoses is decreasing!



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 05:50 AM
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Although I'm pro-choice whith drugs I think one has to be very cautious when it comes to opiates.
I'm active on another board which deals with drug-related topics.
When I signed up there a few years ago, I was very surprised how widespread and perfectly normal the
use of opiates around (sometimes very young) people in some parts of the world is.
In Germany it's not so easy to get them from your Doctor, the black market is another thing of course.
However, the use of opiates is not considered very cool around young people here.
Very different in the US I had to learn.
For pain relief opiates are next to magic, but for recreational use must be handled with great care.
Such things as group dynamics , to take as much as your friends, are easily fatal with this type of substance.
Another problem pose the research chemicals.
The problem here are the suppliers(China) who have no problem selling mislabelled batches, ending in terrible overdoses.
The funny thing is that the powers tb seem to think harder laws will solve that problems.
It's laughable how they just go on with that.
I don't see any substance unavailable because it's illegal.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 09:45 AM
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This isn't even scratching the surface of what's going on.
It's been known and published for many years now (since at least 2001) that allopathic medicine (think: white coats) is the leading cause of death in the USA (and many other countries), accounting for close to one million deaths per year in America alone.
You'd think that would be more widely known!
This revelation about drugs and traffic accidents is chicken feed by comparison.

Go here for the numbers: www.webdc.com...

In fact, only hunger and poverty kills more people on the planet than medicine!
If that isn't shocking, then I'd say you're either in denial, delusion, fast asleep at the wheel, or you've already realised allopathic medicine is not a viable model for sustaining a healthy population.
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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 09:53 AM
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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by Erongaricuaro
For those who need these power pain relievers, those who may be terminal or have to live with chronic pain, what cost for being pain-free? Can we afford to live our lives or even pass away comfortably?


My husband has MS. He goes to several doctors to obtain pain meds, then wonders why he isn't getting any relief.

He has awful side effects. What these pain pill do to him is worse than the MS. His MS causes him to have kidney problems and stones, and though doctors know this, they write scripts that also cause kidney stones and a whole plethora of other side effects, that has my husband seeking yet more of these types of drugs. The worst side effect he has is that after a while these pain pills simply just do not work unless he increases his dosage. What a vicious cycle for a person who has pain on a daily basis.

He has a very limited income, and by the end of the month, after paying his co-pays for these drugs, he is lucky to have a couple of dollars left over.

I tell my husband his diet is for crap, and that changes in what he eats alone will help with his symptoms. For him, it's easier to pop a pill. My husband also thinks it's perfectly fine to jump in behind the wheel of his car and drive after taking his meds!

I can no longer live with my husband because of big pharma. His lust for an easy cure for his pain also makes him one heck of a nasty human being to live with. Thanks big pharma!

The kick backs these Dr,'s receive for writing scripts is disgusting, as I also worked for a nephrologist who would keep patients waiting for hours on end while he went out to lunch and was wined and dined by these drug companies.

This stuff really pisses me off!



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 10:08 AM
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Having spent years on prescription pain meds (lost part of my left leg) I now use nothing stronger than ibuprophen for even serious ailments/injuries.
Getting off that habit is insane and I agree that prescription drugs are the more lethal of the two (vs non-prescription)



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 12:29 PM
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That's fine, but the FDA wants to ban supplements like fish oils and vitamins to protect you. Prescription drugs are OK.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 12:54 PM
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Tobacco still far outnumbers them, as well fire arm related deaths far exceed both those figures lol



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by v1rtu0s0
That's fine, but the FDA wants to ban supplements like fish oils and vitamins to protect you. Prescription drugs are OK.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Staying healthy and living a long and vital life work against our social systems of security and retirement. Big medicine wants to hook you up to their machines and dope-feeding IV's then pull the plug when your wallet runs dry and your family home is mortgaged for all it's worth. That's my cynical outlook on this but it seems to be the plan. It costs big money to dies with any comfort and dignity.

These drugs are lethal and expensive. I am sure these referenced statistics are showing overdoses but I think they may be brushing over "suicides" from those who are tired of paying the price, huge profiteering prices by people who know comfort provided to an ailing body is priceless. We all have the same ultimate escape from this physical plane that very often is ultimately filled with pain and discomfort. If you can be coerced into taking an early out then the greater powers benefit from that too, a decision that is usually reserved for when resources have been largely depleted and all appears hopeless.

Those fish oils just don't carry the same profits for the manufacturers, and if they prolong your life and keep you from becoming drug-dependent then there are power players that view those supplements and minerals as a detriment to society. Every penny you save from being non-dependent on their "miracle drugs" and every pension check you live to draw there are folks that view that as you taking it from their pockets.

It is very sad the society we have become.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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/applause...

Way to deflect back to the pharma companies....

Considering the vast health benefeits of illegal drugs, Cigarettes and Alcohol, I cant beleive they arent sold in unrestricted ways.

The good news though is those who complain about the number of people locked up for drug violations will start to decline.

I say pareole em all and let em go back to what they want to do and save thet ax payers the money of incarceration. Burial plots are a lot cheaper anyways.
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