Day Of Mild Annoyance

reply to post by DerVerboten


The "Day of Rage" organizers have no powerful backers to have anything come out of it worth perusing further. Without powerful backers there cannot be organization. Without organization there is no function. Thus the would be movement withers away due to dysfunction.

"Money money money it's a rich man's world." - ABBA

The Tea Party movement has the Koch brothers. They supply Americans for Prosperity with money money money and thus the Tea Party movement is functional.

Perry perry perry it's a Koch brother's world.

With that said if a movement of national socialism could ever take hold in America it would be a force to be reckon with. Thing is people think of it as something to do with Nazism. If multi cultural non-racial national socialist could ever get their message out they would be unstoppable as the ideals of such an economic philosophy are most relevant in today's political climate, the solutions such a movement could offer.

There's Sen. Bernie Sanders He certainly is no Nazi as he is Jewish by race, but all the ignorant folk think he is a communist, or Stalinist rather which is oil to water in comparison to national socialism. Totally unregulated capitalism is a Stalinist plutocracy.

reply to post by SplitInfinity
Some have, certainly.
But there are those of us that hold to the core philosophy of what it stands for.

My biggest issue is with the sponsors of the day of rage. Some say those in DC are taking orders from Wall Street. Some say Wall Street is taking orders from DC.
When an event sponsorship has such close ties to DC, I doubt the integrity of the event. I may not agree with many (most) of the people, but I feel that they have as much right as Tea Party folks to say what they want. To have it manipulated this way, however, it loses the impact of what they were trying to do.

Here's some good commentary from a Tea Party perspective...notice that the Tea Party position is to agree on the point of liberty, but that is mostly it

libertynews.com...

Originally posted by DerVerboten
reply to post by beezzer

 

I agree with you. I had high expectations. Nothing happened, bunch of fat Americans sitting around BBQing. Guess we should be controlled if we can't do anything ourselves.

Infact if TPTB Were trying to get the people to destroy something during the day of rage so they could justify the punishment of regular people, they severly overestimated the American people.

'no one has ever lost a nickel from underestimating the American people.'

I'd have more respect for the event if it occurred spontaneously then with the organization that has enveloped it.
Agreed.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Here's some good commentary from a Tea Party perspective...notice that the Tea Party position is to agree on the point of liberty, but that is mostly it

libertynews.com...

In reality, according to our findings, the Occupy Wall Street effort is an extension of a much larger, much better coordinated radical leftist global agenda. The agenda, as can be seen in the findings further down this story, appears to be entrenched in a desire to fuel global economic disturbance and instability.

So many questions

This guys is actually this stupid?

But he doesn't reckon that the banks trashing the global economic stability fuel global economic disturbance and instability wasn't a COMMUNIST plot?

So, are the communists protesting the communists?

Is this the twilight zone?

Did humanity get considerably more retarded in a few days time?

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by beezzer

 

In it's early days...the Tea Party seemed like a good group. Then...certain ulta-right wing groups tried to make it an arm of the GOP.

Let me explain something.

This guy en.wikipedia.org...

And quote from the article, "He was formerly the vice president for an institutional trading and hedge fund account for futures-related products."

These guys en.wikipedia.org... sell commodities on the open market which are then traded and have their prices puffed up by hedge funds that usually bid a little more up (long) than down (short) on delivery contracts in order to move price upward. It's illegal and too transparent for the Koch-s to do it themselves so they park large amounts of capital in non-transparent hedge funds often offshore beyond the reach of any would be U.S. regulators, if they had any teeth which they currently do not have.

The Koch-s fund Americans for Prosperity ran by their point man Dick Armey. The leading group of the Tea party movement.

Understand now? They created the movement most obviously. I think it was all well preplanned in advance. I think Rick Santelli was asked to say what he did on CNBC.

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by beezzer

 

This partialy failed but drove away all the good people who were a part.

I agree.

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by beezzer

 

Now the Tea Party is taking positions that maybe Flash Point Issues that some can associate with...but hey have gone a very different path than the originators. Split Infinity

I don't agree because The Koch-s planned, organized, and funded the Tea Party Movement. They even pre planned the name. I explained how they implemented it in the above text.

They believe in the old adage "useful idiots," and this is what the Tea Party movement is all about.

This is the number one focus of the Tea Party movement leadership as we speak:

Perry is their man.

The Tea Party movement leadership will always back Perry.

This movement is all about Rick Perry.

The Tea Party movement is all about Koch Industries interests.

Sincerely, BobE ;-)

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by SplitInfinity

 

Some say those in DC are taking orders from Wall Street. Some say Wall Street is taking orders from DC.

The ones believing the second scenario have it in reverse, and are totally blind to reality.

reply to post by LilDudeissocool
I have to disagree. "Perry" is not "our guy". Koch Bros. never sent me a check. And we don't follow a set narritive.
(Unlike certain "staged" events taking place on Wall Street)
The Tea Party is being constantly derfined by those like yourself who only see a very narrow definition of who we are and what we do. You're actually parroting talking points from Mediamatters, Huffpo and such because that is what you're told to believe.

You, sir, couldn't be more wrong.

Originally posted by LilDudeissocool

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by SplitInfinity

 

Some say those in DC are taking orders from Wall Street. Some say Wall Street is taking orders from DC.

The ones believing the second scenario have it in reverse, and are totally blind to reality.

edit on 19-9-2011 by LilDudeissocool because: (no reason given)

Corporations follow the laws written by politicians. If they are taking advantage of those laws, then the lawmakers need to change them.

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by LilDudeissocool

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by SplitInfinity

 

Some say those in DC are taking orders from Wall Street. Some say Wall Street is taking orders from DC.

The ones believing the second scenario have it in reverse, and are totally blind to reality.

edit on 19-9-2011 by LilDudeissocool because: (no reason given)

Corporations follow the laws written by politicians. If they are taking advantage of those laws, then the lawmakers need to change them.

Corporations fund the campaigns that provide the position of power in the first place.
The courts will makes sure the 1st amendment ensures this practice...

reply to post by beezzer


dont let em fool you man they love corporations

just when they are green and failing or like lightsquared.

reply to post by Janky Red
Diogenes looked for an honest man, it's time we all did the same.

(apologies if I got the reference wrong)

Originally posted by beezzer

(Unlike certain "staged" events taking place on Wall Street)

Is the Tea Party there too???

Maybe those Two guys that set the agenda will send you to Atlantis next,

we can hope right?

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by beezzer

 

dont let em fool you man they love corporations

just when they are green and failing or like lightsquared.

Or charge carbon credits.

(wonder if those folks protesting have thought of that!)

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by beezzer

 

dont let em fool you man they love corporations

just when they are green and failing or like lightsquared.

Neo, for the last time this hour

I don't hate all corporations, I hate crooked ones

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by beezzer

 

dont let em fool you man they love corporations

just when they are green and failing or like lightsquared.

Or charge carbon credits.

(wonder if those folks protesting have thought of that!)

I am with you on this one, I am spreading the word to the libs I know,
they are seeing the light.

reply to post by Janky Red


nope, the socailists are protesting the capitalists (aka big banks and wall street)

Don't get me wrong, I believe the Fed is corrupt but the Soros connection to this protest is what ruins it. Soros is an International Socialist, and there are ties to Unions besides.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by FallenWun

 

What you're saying isn't true though. No "sponsor" ever gave money to our Tea Party group.

Show me where everyone down there belongs to a group that got money from someone.

I challenge you to show proof that all the rally's that have occurred, have had corporate sponsors.

You mean besides those organized and sponsored by Freedomworks? I mean those are not hard to find. Amazing how many of you have the exact same printed signs at so many of your rallies.

Rhetoric is easy.

Proof? Not so much.

I will be right here when you get back with yours then I guess since you made the accusation first.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Janky Red

 

nope, the socailists are protesting the capitalists (aka big banks and wall street)

Don't get me wrong, I believe the Fed is corrupt but the Soros connection to this protest is what ruins it. Soros is an International Socialist, and there are ties to Unions besides.

But you also harbor the belief that the socialists are running the banking system too.

So why don't you let the socialists destroy their socialist undercover people, so the the capitalists
can win? If you analyzed what you say, just since yesterday, you would realize that you have
given the role of socialist to everyone that harbors power in society. Is there any sense to it, or
is like how Brigham Young framed LDS?

Again, you realize that you conservatives are taking side with TPTB, the FED and even the government.

All three would be shaken up by exposing the crime they engage in, but really you are the agent of
the same, yet you advertise the opposite, all of you do, less a few here...

Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Janky Red

 

nope, the socailists are protesting the capitalists (aka big banks and wall street)

Don't get me wrong, I believe the Fed is corrupt but the Soros connection to this protest is what ruins it. Soros is an International Socialist, and there are ties to Unions besides.

But you also harbor the belief that the socialists are running the banking system too.

So why don't you let the socialists destroy their socialist undercover people, so the the capitalists
can win? If you analyzed what you say, just since yesterday, you would realize that you have
given the role of socialist to everyone that harbors power in society. Is there any sense to it, or
is like how Brigham Young framed LDS?

Again, you realize that you conservatives are taking side with TPTB, the FED and even the government.

All three would be shaken up by exposing the crime they engage in, but really you are the agent of
the same, yet you advertise the opposite, all of you do, less a few here...

No, I have observed that George Soros, an International Socialist and filthy rich person used the Capitalist system to bring economic chaos to the market for the purpose of destabilization besides just the obvious personal profit. I cannot support anything with the Soros connection. He has abused the system and probably a lot of these protestors think they are protesting the bad guys here, but Soros' intentions have clearly been to destabilize capitalist markets to produce a socialist Utopia worldwide. This is not a new thing with socialists. I am not saying that Intl bankers on wall street are pure by any means. History shows that these types have classically funded revolotuions all over. Let us not forget either that Soros stole from the Jews on behalf of the German Nazis. He has publicly justified his actions. It is classic ends justifying the means.

I know this is going to really hit the hot button for some here...Soros is not the only one involved. Indications are this guy named Lerner, and they are also using the old Ayers/weatherman Day of rage moniker, and now for the fun....from Glenn Becks The Blaze
www.theblaze.com...

Also heres evidence that SEIU's Rathke is behind it as well

On March 25 ACORN founder Wade Rathke, a one-time president of an SEIU local in New Orleans, announced what he described as “days of rage in ten cities around JP Morgan Chase.” Rathke said the forthcoming campaign of demonstrations, strikes and disruption will mark “the beginning of the anti-banking jihad.”

www.canadafreepress.com...


Please understand that a lot of people are mad and hurting and are most likely genuine in their disgust of the NWO apparatus, but the very NWO tools are apparently behind much of this protest, and it's designed to bring economic chaos to destabilize, not to bring balance.