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Day Of Mild Annoyance

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posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 04:05 PM
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reply to post by Janky Red
 


Janky, thank you we agree finally on one thing. That cap and trade is a scam. I hope that you also realize that more govt bureacracy will also suppress what's left of free enterprise here in the States.




I am for limited government, but in politician land, that often means limiting the specific portions


Either we want limited govt or we don't. I dont care if theres a D or an R behind a name, if they are for Big Govt I do not want to support them. The thing is that like you say, we cannot always know what the shady deal is underneath. Obama ran his campaign on being transparent and on reducing lobbyism and pork...and well we see what happened. All he's done is shady deals and paying off his supporters and the Unions and yes even Wall Street. So where are those protesters who thnk Obama is in the thick of it???? Where's the commentary in this protest about his involvement?
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posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Either we want limited govt or we don't.


We don't so much need limited government, as we need limited LAW.



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 05:58 PM
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i will buy that for a dollar congress orginal function wasnt just to sit there and pass laws all day long and all year long.

i can totally get behind limited law

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posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 02:49 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by LilDudeissocool

Originally posted by Gannicus

I'm soooooo surprised. News flash, most Americans aren't far left socialist wana-be's.



Most Americans want Wall Street regulated though. Position limits implemented on the New york Mercantile Exchange and so forth. Because, "With liberty comes responsibility."
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Ah, so maybe that's the catch....the program is really to promote the Bilderbergs Global economic tax, and you guys went for it whole hog....good work! It's a fact that Richard Trumpka wants a global economic tax,

www.theblaze.com...
Trumpka says here that American afl-cio have been working for financial reform.... uhuh..."Americans for Financial reform"..".create a robin hood tax" "Create a financial transaction tax"

SO maybe that's what the real organizers of the protest really want to achieve. They were making a list of demands which I hadnt heard yet, so I should really hear that.
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Bilderberg conspiracy? How am I suppose to have a rational conversation with you?



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 02:57 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by LilDudeissocool

Originally posted by lildaddy985
reply to post by neo96
 


How is it a free market system, when the banks and corporations literally write the laws?


There are no free market capitalist systems in existence. Most systems that say they are, are actually plutocracies like the U.S. system.


Karl Marx was railing against Capitalism in the 1800's. How much do you think the rhetoric has changed since then? We certainly were far more free market oriented a hundred years ago before the socialists expanded govt intrustion.



You mean a time when Standard Oil AKA Jay Rockefeller ran most everything?


I really don't see much difference between an elite class of bureaucrats, and an elite top wealthy class running everything.

Capital needs to cycle laterally not vertically. Vertically meaning either cycling to top government or Wall Street. Both Babylonian economic models are regressive in my opinion. Progressive movement of capital always favors the middle wear the real producers are located. The very top and the very bottom are always takers who are a burden to the hard working middle class. The very bottom have legitimate excuses for why they are takers the very top are simply unethical narcissist and sometime they are criminals such Lay of Enron corp, Madoff, etc.



posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 05:30 PM
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Lil Dude, yah Bilderbergs! Maybe you are one of those people who diss Alex Jones. Or maybe you just never heard of him. Or maybe you never saw the G20 protests....
Any good conspiracy theorist worth his weight in salt knows the Bilderbergs are part of the NWO elite. The Bilderbergs are an elite group of people who meet secretly to discuss solutions to the world's problems. No media is really allowed unless sworn to secrecy. These people roll up to the hotels(always the best and most affluent) in their limos with tinted windows so no one can see who they are.
Alex Jones reportedly had inside info on one of their meetings and lists of atttendees have been published.
Before you ridicule me, it might be worth the time to google Bilderberg and do some research.

And while you are at it google Antony Sutton please and research his material. He is author of many books on the power elite.

In fact, Sutton exposed a lot of financial backing of Hitler and the Bolshevik revolution by the wealthy elite, including rockefellers, Harriman, Brown Root and kellog, Warburg, and others.

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posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 05:53 PM
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Just some research


According to the Day of Rage site here usdayofrage.org...

A Lacey MacAuley who writes for the Toronto Star was arrested at the G20 protest in Toronto. I knew these people are professionals. I said yesterday that they probably go from one protest to the next.
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posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by LilDudeissocool
 


Lil Dude, yah Bilderbergs! Maybe you are one of those people who diss Alex Jones. Or maybe you just never heard of him. Or maybe you never saw the G20 protests....
Any good conspiracy theorist worth his weight in salt knows the Bilderbergs are part of the NWO elite. The Bilderbergs are an elite group of people who meet secretly to discuss solutions to the world's problems. No media is really allowed unless sworn to secrecy. These people roll up to the hotels(always the best and most affluent) in their limos with tinted windows so no one can see who they are.
Alex Jones reportedly had inside info on one of their meetings and lists of atttendees have been published.
Before you ridicule me, it might be worth the time to google Bilderberg and do some research.

And while you are at it google Antony Sutton please and research his material. He is author of many books on the power elite.

In fact, Sutton exposed a lot of financial backing of Hitler and the Bolshevik revolution by the wealthy elite, including rockefellers, Harriman, Brown Root and kellog, Warburg, and others.

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I'm not sure why you left out the Rothschilds. That's usually a standard in such rhetoric.

The only dangerous persons with in the so called "Bilderberg group" is the members of the House of Orange because they are so heavily invested through proxy holdings in petro companies such as Royal Dutch Shell. The oldest kid Willy O of the current Queen is a monster waiting in the wings. Coincidentally his shortened name, not his title, adds up to 666 in the Greek alphabet. It's sort of creepy if you believe in that sort of stuff. Orange is used for the last name. William something Orange. I forget what's used as the middle name. Some food for thought there anyway. Thing is if you do not own major fossil fuel holding you really have no say in the world. The people you think may run the world really don't. they're mere bankers. They invest the money for the people who own the keystone to civilization, petro.

Here is something fun to watch illustrating who actually controls the world.


SEE HOW THE WORLD REALLY WORKS?

Alex Jones is an entertainer.... period, whose genre is being a paranoid radio talking head. He is a useful idiot as a distraction artist from the real truth... The real truth being the logical middle.

These folks the really do run things use tools such as melting away security and allowing pawns to take advantage of the engineered soft points in the armor of civilization. Be it not taking measures to secure the airport after it was learned planes where going to be hijacked before 9/11 or not having any oversight on Wall Street before through enforceable trading and banking regulations before the 08 market crash, or where Oswald should have been one of many threats detained as a danger to JFK during his visit to Dallas. Now

Plan to slash funding for the National Nuclear Security Administration's counter-proliferation programs.
Quote- "proposed budget that would jeopardize national security, “Now the Republicans in Congress want to strip the funding for that agency." Read all about it here. www.politicususa.com...

See how distraction works? JFK three man shooter team distracts away from JFK's security on his trip to Dallas. Focusing on mythical 9/11 demolitions instead of the focus being on Rice's memo not being taken into the level of concern it merited when it explicitly said plans would be hijacked and flown into buildings. That's the business Alex Jones is in. The business of distracting with nonsense. What's not nonsense is the people in charge of most everything, if not everything, at the macro level, big oil, which funds banking, and is who the U.S. Senate and President and some in Congress too take their marching order from do run the world, and they simply allow things to happen for their benefit. Somethings they benefit from are very bad, and that's why they need useful idiots like Alex Jones in order to operate and survive. Alex Jones helps the bad guys survive.



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Just some research


According to the Day of Rage site here usdayofrage.org...

A Lacey MacAuley who writes for the Toronto Star was arrested at the G20 protest in Toronto. I knew these people are professionals. I said yesterday that they probably go from one protest to the next.
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At least they have a job.



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 08:50 AM
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Damn. The KGB did their job very well in the '60's and '70's. They must be kind of disappointed that it took about 30 years longer than they planned for.



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