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reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 12:41 PM by TheLoony
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Straw poles


Straw POLL.



But in truth we would be the only country in the world doing that all countries try to protect there interests abroad.


Corporate and government interests, NOT MINE!!!!!!!! The wars we are in now are because of lies, not to protect me and mine from ANYTHING! So don't pull this crap on me. I may have been born at night but it sure as hell wasn't last night. We don't need a frakking Amerikan empire, no sir, and the peoples of the world don't want it either. His policy is NON-INTERVENTION, NOT ISOLATIONIST!!!!!! The problems of the other countries are not ours, unless you want to talk about Mexico and how we have ruined that country with our ridiculous war on drugs, one that will never, ever be won as you will NEVER stop people from getting high.



Is this really how you see the United States is this what you really want?


$400,000 and the guy died. Helluva health care system we have, eh? So my answer is yes, I want change. Actual change, not Obama propaganda type change.Fix the bloody system, not go along with it and let Big Pharma write their own health care bills.



This is why Ron Paul would never be president hes so far to the right that he has 0 chance of ever being elected. The only people that dont see this are the ones thats just as far to the right as he is.


No chance? So you can see the future and know all? Must be nice to be so narcissistic that you know all and no one else knows squat. Lastly, just for the record, I am NOT a Republican or on the right, at all. Nice assumption. Know it alls like you should have known I'm not for any party, I vote for the person.

The words are he's, that's and don't, also. Learn to spell next time you want to try and belittle me. It's called a a apostrophe and is used to contract words. A first grader should know that.


reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 01:20 PM by caladonea
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My personal opinion of Ron Paul is....that he is a very smart man who has a lot of wisdom...and he knows the constitution...like the back of his hand. He is more intelligent than all the candidates.

However (TPTB) that head the majority of corporations... I believe are pulling the strings with MSM. They don't want Ron Paul in office ...because they know he will not be their puppet for one second! They are afraid of him and his growing popularity. I am sure they are planning his downfall as I type this. Will they succeed? I hope not.

Ron Paul gives me hope in the political sea of lies.


reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 01:28 PM by 27jd
reply to post by caladonea


These are very interesting times. Some may find them scary, but I'm hopeful. TPTB can't act like dictators, they don't have the ability to rule that way. They rely on manipulating the people, but their system is failing and the people are not happy with the establishment, which is why we're picking up so much support. It will only grow, because the chickens have come home to roost on all these false bubbles created to make the elite richer. Once somebody actually looks into his policy plans, and doesn't focus on his personal beliefs and philosophies they become supporters regardless of their political beliefs (except maybe a few neo-con hate addicts). His support is so deep that once people become part of the movement, they generally won't leave. If they harm him, I think it could potentially spark rioting and unrest and the system may get torn down anyway. Then we'll have to pick up the pieces, and start over. Either way, the status quo is unsustainable. Let's hope we give the elitists too much credit on how much they can control...



reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 01:44 PM by caladonea
reply to post by 27jd


I have a question for you and everyone....if Ron Paul does not win...who will you vote for? Will you vote for him anyway...and write him in?

By the way...I am for him people.


reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 02:04 PM by 27jd
reply to post by caladonea


Yes, I will absolutely write him in. Although he does elude to a 3rd party run if he doesn't get the GOP nomination. He just doesn't want to talk about that right now because he's focused on winning the nomination...

Paul declined to rule out a possible independent presidential run if he fails to secure the GOP nomination. But, he emphasized, "I have no plans to do it."

"It's the wrong thing to think about," he said. "If I go around here and talk to people, and I said, 'Well, I guess our Plan B is when we lose in January, we have to start a third-party movement' - that would be so negative."



Read more: www.sfgate.com.../c/a/2011/09/17/MNRG1L5VGA.DTL#ixzz1YKflB0Kx



reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 02:50 PM by 27jd
reply to post by CB328


Another individual who hasn't the slightest idea what Ron Paul's actual plans are, versus his personal beliefs and philosophies rooted in the Constitution. And for your information, I am one of those moderates you speak of, I'm an independent who voted for Obama last election, but he turned out to be no different than Bush.

He's not suggesting there be NO air traffic control, FYI. Doing away with the FAA would be very low on his priority list, but in theory he believes a private entity could do the job, as they do in Canada...it's called NAV CANADA...

Please, tell us how else Ron Paul will "tear our government to shreds"...

Don't you think our economy would be much better off if we bring our troops home from overseas to spend their pay here, and use OUR tax money to pay down our debt, and fund our broke social programs instead of welfare for other nations? That's what Dr. Paul wants to do.
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reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 03:53 PM by 27jd
Wow, Faux really went all out on this article...

www.foxnews.com...

A few complete sentences, thanks Faux. Of course, they had to add at the end that California isn't important to the GOP anyway, since it's a democrat controlled state.

Who wants a state with 55 electoral votes anyway?
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reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 04:16 PM by GogoVicMorrow
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Yeah.. that's why we quit being democrats. I was a democrat from the time I turned 18 (well ideologically earlier) and just switched to GOP this year.. for one reason and one reason only. So I can vote in the primaries for Paul.

Tear our government to shreds? What are you talking about? Try reigning it in.


reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 04:29 PM by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Rockdisjoint


Net polls aside (which I'm not sure if he won those in 08 either)
How many straw polls did he win in 2008?


reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 05:58 PM by Blaine91555
reply to post by 27jd


The real story is that only 833 bothered with it. Out of 7.4 million Republicans only 833 participated. Why do you think that is significant?

How does Paul win the Republican nomination when the best he has done on national polls of likely voters is under 11%. How does he get from there to winning enough State Primaries to win the nomination against the people he is opposing? As more of them drop out and they will, their votes will go heavily towards the those leading the pack, increasing the lead over Paul.

You do understand how this works right? ...and what this Straw Poll is and is not?


reply posted on 18-9-2011 @ 06:23 PM by eLPresidente
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You do understand that it was the GOP convention and only registered attendees could vote, right?

This is not a direct indication of the campaign's success but is a clear indication of the organization of his grassroots supporters. This organization has been repeated in 4 other states where Ron Paul came in either 1st or second for the straw polls.

What does this mean? there is dedication, there is passion and the message is spreading.

You want to stand in the way, go for it but at least know YOUR facts.

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