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Benjamin Fulford says no Radiation in Japan:

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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 07:33 AM
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Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
reply to post by muzzleflash
 



you are trying to pretend that Fukushima didn't increase background levels at all when it is provable with detection equipment.


And where do you draw that conclusion from?


I asked a question, you answered it. You claimed everything else was why, but didn't bother mentioning Fukushima.

This is a basic context clue association. Also the disposition and demeanor were also revealing.
edit on 18-9-2011 by muzzleflash because: (no reason given)




posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 07:35 AM
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Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
reply to post by muzzleflash
 



Wrong, containment (concentration) is good.


If it's contained, yes...

But it was not contained was it?

So you want it dispersed, don't you? So that there is less of it around you, right?


If it's concentrated that means it's locality is severely limited.

The act of dispersion is what makes it pollute the environment. It causes locality to become "Everywhere" eventually.

How do you not get this? Dispersion is the worst possible thing of all.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 07:37 AM
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Ok, I have a question for you....


Do you work for the Navy?

Is your job to stir up fear about Japan?



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 07:37 AM
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Here is an example to make this simple.

If I were bombing a city with 100 bomber jets, and we "Concentrated" our attack on one area, that means only one area of the city is hit and the death toll is limited to that locality.

If I "disperse" my attack, now the entire city is hit by the bombing run and the death toll raises significantly.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 07:40 AM
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Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
reply to post by muzzleflash
 


Ok, I have a question for you....


Do you work for the Navy?

Is your job to stir up fear about Japan?


Ad hominem.

I now know for an absolute fact that you are here to cause trouble and refuse to play fair. You are twisting everything and then when I bust you on each point and provide excellent reasoning you now call me a Navy agent of fear?

Nope. I am an agent of logic and truth. Thanks for the compliment however.

I will not accuse you of working for ulterior motives, because that would be foolish. However I will debunk your claims happily, as that is rational.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 07:43 AM
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Here is an example to make this simple.


Here is an example to make this even more simple.

Lets say that you have 1 trillion atoms.. you know, those little building blocks of matter?

And let's say that each one of them will eventually decay into a stable atom, and shoot a particle at high speed in a random direction.

If all of those atoms are in the same house, then the probability of being hit by them increases, and the amount of times a single individual is hit also increases.

If those atoms are dispersed over a city, the odds of any individual taking a damaging number of these particles is lessened... and the damage to each person is reduced.

If those atoms are dispersed globally, the odds of any one person taking a damaging dose from the overall cloud of particles is reduced to ZERO.


And that isn't a ridiculous metaphor that compares radiation with Carpet bombing.

That is what is actually happening.

You are welcome.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 07:44 AM
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Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia

lol You are WAY too angry.....


I have not been angry at all. I have been happy to show you how all of your explanations of the 1-10 uSv readings were inadequate.

Since you quoted my question and proceeded to post tons of 'factoids', it is clear and direct that you were intending them to be the answer to the question of mine which you quoted right above it.

The fact you are debating it further solidifies this point.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 07:45 AM
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Ad hominem.


Nope, I'm genuinely curious.... Do you work for the Navy?

Is it your job to spread fear about japan?



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 07:46 AM
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I have not been angry at all. I have been happy to show you how all of your explanations of the 1-10 uSv readings were inadequate.


They weren't "Explanations" they were examples of radiation sources to put the Readings into the proper context.


Since you quoted my question and proceeded to post tons of 'factoids', it is clear and direct that you were intending them to be the answer to the question of mine which you quoted right above it.


Nope.

I was intending my post to put your statement of the radiation levels into the proper perspective.


The fact you are debating it further solidifies this point.


What am I debating?



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 07:48 AM
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The metaphor was to describe the differentiation between 'concentrated' and 'dispersed'. And why one of them affects me and the other does not affect me. (The bomber metaphor).

You cannot just sit here and treat me like a child, call me a Navy agent of fear, and assume I am angry. This is not a debate anymore. I will respectfully back out now. This has become absolutely untenable.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 07:50 AM
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Hey Guys, can we return to this.phunny Video

The People must be a joke,
all BS.!

There is still a high Radiation,
done checkings in the last 48 hours!

Samurais was mostly drunk 24/7

B. Fulford is a mental sick Person
with a Tendency to live in a Phantasy World!

edit on 18-9-2011 by Human0815 because: info



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
reply to post by muzzleflash
 



Ad hominem.


Nope, I'm genuinely curious.... Do you work for the Navy?

Is it your job to spread fear about japan?





posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 07:53 AM
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The metaphor was to describe the differentiation between 'concentrated' and 'dispersed'. And why one of them affects me and the other does not affect me. (The bomber metaphor).


And mine was not a metaphor.


You cannot just sit here and treat me like a child


I was not... lol


call me a Navy agent of fear


I called you nothing, I merely asked you a question.


and assume I am angry.


You certainly seem that way.



This is not a debate anymore. I will respectfully back out now. This has become absolutely untenable.


I'm pretty sure that this was never actually a debate.



Nope, I'm genuinely curious.... Do you work for the Navy?

Is it your job to spread fear about japan?




So, am I to assume that you are not going to answer the questions?

edit on 18-9-2011 by ErtaiNaGia because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
1 guy = there is no radiation

everybody else = there's hella radiation!!!!

everybody else ftw


Ah! Group think! It must be true because so many believe it!
Ask yourself Who controls All the media?
5 companies. Just 5.
Now ask yourself whose side are these entities on,
and before you answer, think MSM and 9/11 and JFK.

Do you see now?
This is part of their 'psychological fear' agenda.
Fabricate a STORY and let the Public imagination (which they have fashioned through
their media) take over (which is easily guided by contrived reporting, green screens and
faked footage).

As Fulfords interview companion states, how can a similar radiation level disaster in
Chernobyl kill 4,000, and kill NONE in Fukushima?

There is more than ample evidence provided here to prove Fukushima Media Fakery.
www.cluesforum.info...


Whatever Fulford is, He is more truthful than the MSM.
The MSM have consistently lied to us over vital events like JFK and 9/11.
Feel free to pick and choose what you believe coming from them.
I personally don't recommend group think, or sheep-hood!

So many events from 9/11 to 7/7, from Tucson to Mumbai to Norway shootings, from Madrid
to Bali bombings etc. etc. are Faked Media events.
Media fakery and the Television and MSM are vital tools in the perpetrators arsenal.

And we are shaped just how they wished, over and over and over again!



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 12:02 PM
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reply to post by ErtaiNaGia
 


uh like i already pointed out that the sources of radiation are from local plants, with the help of some judicious chemtrailing, lots of threads here re nuke-plant problems and tritium leakages, the ATS search function is your friend.


Fukushima: Did the Dimona Dozen Murder the Fukushima 50?
Fukushima may in fact have been caused by an act of war under the cover of an environmental disaster:

educate-yourself.org...

Japan Radiation Hype: Those Who Pump It & Those Who Believe It
educate-yourself.org...

Fear of Radiation is a Psi-Op
educate-yourself.org...

There Is No Meltdown at Daiichi!
educate-yourself.org...


and, like, seriously get a room, you 2



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 12:48 PM
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This guy is as blind as Anne Frank!
2nd
edit on 18/9/11 by gunshooter because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia

Some common sources of Radiation:

Sleeping next to someone: 0.05 uSv
Eating one Banana: 0.1 uSv
Living within one mile of a Coal power-plant for a year: 0.3 uSv
Using a CRT monitor for a year: 1 uSv
Background dose received in a normal day: 10 uSv
Airplane flight from New York to LA: 40 uSv
Living in a stone, Brick, or Concrete Building for a year: 70 uSv
Yearly dose from natural potassium in the body: 390 uSv
Mammogram: 3,000 uSv
Normal Yearly Background Dose: 3,650 uSv
Chest CT scan: 5,800 uSv

www.projectrho.com...



I just want to add something,
the People in Fukushima-Town get a "Official Radiation-Dosage" of 10,336.800 uSv,
1.180 uSv/h

By my experience we can multiply this Dosage at least 3 Times to get the real Amounts
for a Child which is moving much closer to the ground!

And please do not believe into the BS of Fulford, Jimbobblablabla or the Cluesforum,
all are an exact Example of how Disinformation is working!

PS; Potassium do not damage the Cells



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 10:08 PM
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the People in Fukushima-Town get a "Official Radiation-Dosage" of 10,336.800 uSv,
1.180 uSv/h


Where are you getting this information from?


By my experience we can multiply this Dosage at least 3 Times to get the real Amounts
for a Child which is moving much closer to the ground!


That doesn't make any sense... the radiation was dispersed in the air, not the ground.


PS; Potassium do not damage the Cells


Potassium 40 is radioactive, and it is *IONIZING* radiation.

It most Assuredly *DOES* damage the cells, and in great enough quantities it can be harmful to the overall organism.


Potassium-40 (40K) is a radioactive isotope of potassium which has a very long half-life of 1.248×10^9 years, or about 39.38×10^15 seconds.

en.wikipedia.org...



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