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Originally posted by FoxfilesMulder
Firstly
I am not homophobic! ok?
Lets just clear that one up before someone tries it on.
I'm not going to write a long drawn out thread as I normally would try to do, because it simply doesn't need it here this time.
I have a serious question to pose to you and would love to hear the opinions and minds of all ATS members.
My question is:
Within the army, should openly gay men be allowed to openly shower with the rest of the straight men?
If your answer is yes, then what is the point of gender segregated showers at all?
Shouldn't it be like the movie "Starship troopers" where both genders shower harmoniously together?
Segregation is in place to protect a person or persons from such things as immorality, threatened privacy, sexuality and sexual perversion etc, yet all of these things are at risk of being corrupted through individual human behavior, whether acting consciously or subconsciously.
And lets be honest here, within every large group of people, there are always going to be a bad apple or three.
My personal non-homophobic opinion is that if you can be openly vocal about your sexual preference, then you can be openly humble and understanding about showering in a third segregated shower block, where its possible within the army's infrastructure.
Opinions?
Thoughts?
Constructive criticisms?
Donations?
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
Straight men may have the same concern about homosexual men. Personally, if I even caught them peeking I would beat them within an inch of their life.
Originally posted by GmoS719
On the other hand, it isn't OK for women to be naked in the shower with men.
Men can not control them selves around naked women.
Originally posted by newcovenant
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
Straight men may have the same concern about homosexual men. Personally, if I even caught them peeking I would beat them within an inch of their life.
Originally posted by GmoS719
On the other hand, it isn't OK for women to be naked in the shower with men.
Men can not control them selves around naked women.
Why do straight men think the gays are going to be wanting their bodies?
This is highly presumptuous and in some cases I would go so far as to say wishful thinking.
Men cannot control themselves around naked women? I beg to differ with you. I have been on some sailing trips and we were all naked and after a time it doesn't even matter.
When naked bodies are plentiful, they're suddenly not all that mysterious. It is what we can't see that drives us mad and the reason SOME men can't control themselves around women is because a) they are immature and b) they don't see breasts and vagina's everyday. Not so with the gay guys.
I mean if you are already driving a Ferrari why scope out the Mustangs?