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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 09:34 PM
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reply to post by WarminIndy
 


Then I have no idea why you are trying to argue that he makes his movies out of the goodness of his heart, utilizing only the best business practices. His videos are lies and he profits from them. Why you are arguing that if you do not believe him is beyond me. The kicker is how cheaply made his "original" content is. I really admired all the Newtek Toaster wipes he used with his 300 dollar camera in his first 10 movies. He used the same equipment that I had sitting in my backroom gathering dust because it was so out of date I could not sell it for a buck. One of the things that lead me to Alex was his use of Amiga hardware and software. The problem is, years after that stuff was relegated to hobbyists and poor people that just wanted to have a little fun, Alex was still "producing" his films on the same crappy hardware. It becomes real clear when you hear his words and see OTHER PEOPLE's images all through his films and know what he uses to make them just how little he actually cares about people. I could have recreated any of his films in the late 90's for less than 500 bucks. Then I listen to the show and hear his fans "Alex, I just bought 10 copies of "X" to hand out to my friends because I want to support your good work."
Wow, just made 200 bucks back on one call. Almost half the production costs.

BTW, I have starred some of your posts in this thread because you have said things I do agree with. I am just not sure why you are trying to argue this point about his videos.
Fact: They are not copyrighted.
Fact: Much of the material is not original.
Fact: People BUY them.
Fact: He makes money off of them.

That is the only argument I was making.
edit on 18-9-2011 by FallenWun because: (no reason given)




posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by FallenWun
The argument that Alex needs money because it costs money to do what he is doing might help a great deal by explaining why no one else I listen to on the radio keeps asking me for money.

Because Alex doesn't have corporate sponsors. You also were too busy trying to insult me and being pedantic, so you forgot to answer my question; Where is your proof that he received endorsements from CNN?



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 09:35 PM
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Regarding "lightbulbs", I always thought he was referring to the whole "IBM, smarter planet" business, where in effect, not just lightbulbs, but your whole home electrical system is monitored for output (like they can tell how often you use your dryer and whatnot).

EDIT: Again, me and my post-scripts, sorry. I think it's not really any more troubling than facebook selling your likes/dislikes to advertisers or your phone knowing where you are when you take a picture with it..."not any more troubling" meaning, still very troubling, just on the same level.
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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by Deja`Vu

Originally posted by WarminIndy

Originally posted by Deja`Vu
reply to post by foood4thought
 


Alex Jones is not lying and here is the evidence on the first several I researched. How could you post this about Alex jones without researching it first? Most of it is out of context and false. The video should be called 123 made up lies to discredit Alex jones. They think you’re so stupid that you wont research the video. Google what Alex says and you will find that it is unfortunately true.

1 case for killing granny TRUE Story he reported Source www.thedailybeast.com...

Light bulbs to spy on you is true, here is the source with video!

Source 1

Source 2

Details with sources

Control your electricity through new smart meter

Source 1

Source 2

Wikileaks George Soros funded

Source 1

Cia admits fake bin laden video

Source 1
Click click show-more for over an additional 50 sources.


How do lightbulbs spy on us? If I go to Wal-Mart and buy a box of lightbulbs and break them, will I find a camera in them? Do the lights have to be on?



Are you one of those new Ai Chat bots? Did you watch the whole video? Well if you watched it to the end you would see that they are developing the technology. they are not cameras, they transmit data and can be used for a wide variety of applications including intelligence gathering! So to get back to the point, Alex jones didn't lie about it. they do have the technology. It begins around the 5min mark in the video. Alex Jones didn't say they are selling lightbulbs that spy on you at wal-mart and if you break them a camera will be in it.

And to answer your question "do the light have to be on?" Well yes, only one light in the room needs to be active since one led bulb can transmit 1,000's of streams of data.



edit on 18-9-2011 by Deja`Vu because: added word


Then I am safe because I don't turn my lights on. The videos did not play for me so that is why I asked the questions. It made me remember when people used to say the secret government was watching us through our tv screen. My computer does not have a camera and it is not hooked up to audio so I guess I am safe in that regard. So now all they can do is see what I type here.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by FallenWun
reply to post by WarminIndy
 


Then I have no idea why you are trying to argue that he makes his movies out of the goodness of his heart, utilizing only the best business practices.


No, in fact my other posts was where I was trying to say he uses PayPal and his videos do cost money. I even used the link for the Moneybomb Marathon. I think we may have had a temporary miscommunication. No, I am not a fan of his and he uses very questionable practices to produce these videos.

Someone else said he did it out of the goodness of his heart. I don't believe he has any goodness at all in him.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by FallenWun
reply to post by ontarff
 


You seemed really butt hurt so I went to a different server. Ventura on FEMA camps eh?

Which camps did he expose and where are they?
Any? No.
Too bad that proves nothing then huh.
There are threads on ATS completely debunking those already. I have stood in one myself. It is an EMPTY FIELD. Bill Clinton is who Alex said was going to send us to these FEMA camps. I am very curious how Billy plans to keep us in an empty field.

How about you show me ONE FEMA camp. Confirmed FEMA detention facility. You know, something that leaves NO ROOM FOR DOUBT. Jesse never managed to do it on either season of his show.


Here is the one Jesse identified as a "residential center" in his video. Do you really think it is going to say "FEMA Detention Center" on the sign? Ha!

www.cca.com...

Here is the link to H.R 645 identified in the video. Read it!

www.uaff.info...

Okay, I have done some of your research for you since you are unable.

Here is another ATS thread on topic...

www.abovetopsecret.com...



edit on 9/18/2011 by ontarff because: ATS thread added



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by FallenWun

Originally posted by Boomer1941

Originally posted by foood4thought
Alex Jones is a joke, don't you think?


Like him or not Alex Jones is a Crusader for the people in this Country and no one else seems to be running the gauntlet as he has.



You people keep saying that but have yet to provide any reason to believe it. He says he is looking out for you. Cool. What has he done for me? What has he prevented? What has he saved us from? What has he successfully fought against?

He tells you to be afraid of things he makes up.
You become afraid of those things and then thank him for it.
Where are the solutions?


What has he done for me? He warned me about the dangers of water fluoridation, uranium, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, radiation and an abundance of other toxins in our drinking water.

What has he prevented? Me voting for another establishment candidate for one, learning to research everything before making decisions or taking someones words.

What have you saved us from?

What has he successfully fought against? corruption



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by Merlin Lawndart
Because Alex doesn't have corporate sponsors.

What?
Berkey ring a bell?
No corporate sponsors.



You also were too busy trying to insult me and being pedantic, so you forgot to answer my question; Where is your proof that he received endorsements from CNN?


I do not know what the hell you are talking about because I never mentioned anything about CNN. Interesting what a hard time AJ fans have keeping things straight around here. Better find the poster that question is actually for and ask them.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by WarminIndy

Originally posted by FallenWun
reply to post by WarminIndy
 


Then I have no idea why you are trying to argue that he makes his movies out of the goodness of his heart, utilizing only the best business practices.


No, in fact my other posts was where I was trying to say he uses PayPal and his videos do cost money. I even used the link for the Moneybomb Marathon. I think we may have had a temporary miscommunication. No, I am not a fan of his and he uses very questionable practices to produce these videos.

Someone else said he did it out of the goodness of his heart. I don't believe he has any goodness at all in him.


Better tell someone else to get off your screen name then.


Originally posted by WarminIndy
Actually anything that is created such as art, song or film, it is copywritten when it was created. All of his stuff is copywritten. Every artist knows this, every playwright knows this, every filmmaker knows this and every musician knows this. You can go to the copywrite office to have it done, but most playwrights and screenplay writers will mail themselves a copy of their material and not open it to have proof it is theirs. But videos, the moment they are released they are copywritten. He has not been in this business this long without knowing that. Everybody in the entertainment business knows that.What he cannot do is copywright someone else's work. If he borrows things from other people without proper reference, then he has violated their copyright.


Like I said, I agreed with some of what you have posted but this post and the one prior to that are argumentative in favor of Alex and his dubious business practices. I guess I am not at all sure what point you wanted to make then.


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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by redrose123
reply to post by foood4thought
 


What I think is a joke is that people like you are what led me to Alex Jones. I had to go see what all the demeaning remarks and all the effort to denounce someone was all about. I went to see why and liked what I saw. I took sometime to check out what he said. I liked what I saw and have since became a member. Why don't you spend your time proving what liars TPTB are and what liars people like Glen Beck are.


What I think is a joke is the fact you led yourself to Alex Jones seeking information, instead of blaming others for your actions try having some integrity. Alex Jones is a joke!!!



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by ontarff
Here is the one Jesse identified as a "residential center" in his video. Do you really think it is going to say "FEMA Detention Center" on the sign? Ha!


So the proof it is a FEMA detention center is the fact that it is not labeled as such?

Are you for real?


www.cca.com...

Here is the link to H.R 645 identified in the video. Read it!

www.uaff.info...

Okay, I have done some of your research for you since you are unable.


SHOW ME ONE CONFIRMED FEMA DETENTION CENTER OR GIVE IT UP.

If Alex is this honest bastion of integrity simply spouting truths for the masses, why is it almost impossible for any of you to back up the things he says? All you can do is argue nuances.
Hell, his tagline is "This is admitted, folks."
Where the f*** are all these admission?
You do not have them.

It is a FEMA camp because it does not say it is a FEMA camp.


OK!



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by FallenWun

Originally posted by WarminIndy

Originally posted by FallenWun
reply to post by WarminIndy
 



Like I said, I agreed with some of what you have posted but this post and the one prior to that are argumentative in favor of Alex and his dubious business practices. I guess I am not at all sure what point you wanted to make then.


edit on 18-9-2011 by FallenWun because: (no reason given)


I think that I may have been under the misunderstanding that you were defending him. I was trying to say that if he creates original work then it would be copyrighted. So we agree that we both are not fans of his and his practices are very deceptive.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by Deja`Vu
What has he done for me? He warned me about the dangers of water fluoridation, uranium, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, radiation and an abundance of other toxins in our drinking water.


So if I warn you about dragons under your bed, you are going to thank me right?
I cannot wait to hear the action you took on this. How you have avoided water this far is going to be amazing. I hope it has something to do with filters you bought because Alex suggested you do so. Interesting fact, my family never drank tap water. Not in over 40 years. Thanks Alex for warning us about the bad tap water 20 years late!


What has he prevented? Me voting for another establishment candidate for one, learning to research everything before making decisions or taking someones words.




Oh, so the only people in office now are the good guys?



What have you saved us from?


Nothing and I also have not asked you to buy any of my items or send me money. See how that works?


What has he successfully fought against? corruption


You know that is not an answer, right? Please tell me you are at least intelligent enough to realize that.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by WarminIndy
I think that I may have been under the misunderstanding that you were defending him. I was trying to say that if he creates original work then it would be copyrighted. So we agree that we both are not fans of his and his practices are very deceptive.


Then consider it resolved. My pointing out how cost effective it would NOT be for him to even try to copyright his films is in no way a defense of the man. People think he is honest and doing good work because he does not copyright his films. I guarantee if he could and still profit, he would. He makes more than enough profit on them now so why go to all the trouble and expense to copyright crap he is already profiting from just fine. I think that is just such a pitiful defense of the man that he offers his crap for free.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by WarminIndy

Originally posted by Deja`Vu

Originally posted by WarminIndy

Originally posted by Deja`Vu
reply to post by foood4thought
 


Alex Jones is not lying and here is the evidence on the first several I researched. How could you post this about Alex jones without researching it first? Most of it is out of context and false. The video should be called 123 made up lies to discredit Alex jones. They think you’re so stupid that you wont research the video. Google what Alex says and you will find that it is unfortunately true.

1 case for killing granny TRUE Story he reported Source www.thedailybeast.com...

Light bulbs to spy on you is true, here is the source with video!

Source 1

Source 2

Details with sources

Control your electricity through new smart meter

Source 1

Source 2

Wikileaks George Soros funded

Source 1

Cia admits fake bin laden video

Source 1
Click click show-more for over an additional 50 sources.


How do lightbulbs spy on us? If I go to Wal-Mart and buy a box of lightbulbs and break them, will I find a camera in them? Do the lights have to be on?



Are you one of those new Ai Chat bots? Did you watch the whole video? Well if you watched it to the end you would see that they are developing the technology. they are not cameras, they transmit data and can be used for a wide variety of applications including intelligence gathering! So to get back to the point, Alex jones didn't lie about it. they do have the technology. It begins around the 5min mark in the video. Alex Jones didn't say they are selling lightbulbs that spy on you at wal-mart and if you break them a camera will be in it.

And to answer your question "do the light have to be on?" Well yes, only one light in the room needs to be active since one led bulb can transmit 1,000's of streams of data.



edit on 18-9-2011 by Deja`Vu because: added word


Then I am safe because I don't turn my lights on. The videos did not play for me so that is why I asked the questions. It made me remember when people used to say the secret government was watching us through our tv screen. My computer does not have a camera and it is not hooked up to audio so I guess I am safe in that regard. So now all they can do is see what I type here.



You don't need to worry about that stuff (lightbulbs), the truth is that there is a grid in place. Everything and everyone is monitored now a day's. there are computer systems with advanced tracking software that monitor behaviors, trends, phone, internet, shopping habits, your network of friends and so on. If your a person of interest then they look deeper and check or uncheck if you will. Truth is if you can imagine it, so have they and they are probably working on it. There are an abundance of great people in government still so don't worry to much. Worry about the 20% which actions are questionable. We need good people of Conscience to replace the 20% bad apples. that will only happened when people expose what they are doing and alex jones is one of those people shining a spotlight on issues.

Define (Conscience): is an aptitude, faculty, intuition or judgment of the intellect that distinguishes right from wrong. Moral judgement may derive from values or norms (principles and rules).
edit on 18-9-2011 by Deja`Vu because: AI BOT VERSION 1.624GV




posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by Merlin Lawndart

Originally posted by FallenWun
The argument that Alex needs money because it costs money to do what he is doing might help a great deal by explaining why no one else I listen to on the radio keeps asking me for money.

Because Alex doesn't have corporate sponsors. You also were too busy trying to insult me and being pedantic, so you forgot to answer my question; Where is your proof that he received endorsements from CNN?


This is a corporate sponsor of Alex Jones...

web.mac.com...
alexjonesexposed.wordpress.com...

Doesn't Alex Jones promote that there is a Zionist agenda?



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 10:07 PM
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And here is yet another.

Midas Resources Inc.

I do not understand who these people think these advertisements sponsor on his show if not him.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by FallenWun

Originally posted by ontarff
Here is the one Jesse identified as a "residential center" in his video. Do you really think it is going to say "FEMA Detention Center" on the sign? Ha!


So the proof it is a FEMA detention center is the fact that it is not labeled as such?

Are you for real?


www.cca.com...

Here is the link to H.R 645 identified in the video. Read it!

www.uaff.info...

Okay, I have done some of your research for you since you are unable.


SHOW ME ONE CONFIRMED FEMA DETENTION CENTER OR GIVE IT UP.

If Alex is this honest bastion of integrity simply spouting truths for the masses, why is it almost impossible for any of you to back up the things he says? All you can do is argue nuances.
Hell, his tagline is "This is admitted, folks."
Where the f*** are all these admission?
You do not have them.

It is a FEMA camp because it does not say it is a FEMA camp.


OK!


Maybe KMR could provide the details...here is an article from the NY Times.

www.nytimes.com...

A document you might be interested in...

armypubs.army.mil...
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posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by FallenWun
reply to post by WarminIndy
 


And here is yet another.

Midas Resources Inc.

I do not understand who these people think these advertisements sponsor on his show if not him.


I looked at it and it said "In the history of gold, only about 100,000 tons of gold has been produced." Well if that is the case, then they missed out on this little factoid from history

www.metmuseum.org...

74.6.238.254...://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=history+of+gold+trade+in +africa&d=5044920412670627&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=fc15893b,c17a036&icp=1&.intl=us&sig=tyx6fvlJYS6lphKPWpWqbg--

Even his corporate sponsors can't get it right.That last link was a pdf so I had to post the view at html.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by ontarff
Maybe KMR could provide the details...here is an article from the NY Times.

www.nytimes.com...


Um...where are the FEMA camps?
5 years ago KBR got a contract to build temporary detention centers. The contract was for one year with 4 possible extensions.

WHERE ARE THE CAMPS?

Jesus this is like talking to the wall.
Alex says there are FEMA camps.
You say Alex is right.

Show me on f***ing FEMA camp already then.



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