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reply posted on 17-9-2011 @ 07:12 AM by Essan
reply to post by CasiusIgnoranze



It all depends on composition.

Being a comet that orbits within the inner solar system, rather than one from the Oort cloud, it seems quite likely that Encke (which obviously is slowly disintegrating else it'd never have a tail nor produce meteor showers) has a more compact, rocky, nature. Elenin was more of an mushy snowball from the outer reaches and never survived what was probably it's first close encounter with Sol. And it's not just the (relative) warm, or the solar wind or CMEs, there's also gravitation effects of the Sun and indeed the planets. Indeed, after all the nonsense about Elenin somehow, bizarrely, having an effect on and super massive (in comparison) Earth, maybe it was actually Earth's gravitation effects which helped pull Elenin apart?

It's not easy being a comet.


reply posted on 17-9-2011 @ 07:16 AM by Lighterside
reply to post by CasiusIgnoranze



How about Biela's Comet discovered in 1772, and presumed to have broken up in 1842, creating a meteor field/shower called Andromedids.

Boom with boom sprinkled on top. - Yup, Elenin is quite the exception


reply posted on 17-9-2011 @ 07:16 AM by CasiusIgnoranze
reply to post by pazcat



I merely presented various speculative research about Comet Elenin. I never said it was going to destroy the Earth except just joke about it doing so!

Thanks for bringing up my threads by the way. Theres some interesting info I almost forgot about!



reply posted on 17-9-2011 @ 07:24 AM by Essan
Originally posted by CasiusIgnoranze
reply to
post by Essan



Interestingly, comets originating in the Kuiper Belt, a cometary source just beyond Neptune, do not disrupt nearly as often as those originating in the Oort cloud.


Comet Elenin originated from the Kuiper Belt by the way.


Says who?

All references I can find say the Oort cloud.

It tends to be short period comets which originate from the Kuiper belt (ie those which enter the inner system on a regular basis - like Halley's comet)


reply posted on 17-9-2011 @ 07:27 AM by Shamatt
Originally posted by CasiusIgnoranze
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post by SatoriTheory



Hundreds of Comets pass close to the Sun every year without "melting".



True. This is certainly the case. But why stop there in your report? It is also true that dozens of comets disintigrate on aproach to, or at perihelion or there abouts. It is not unueual.

Originally posted by CasiusIgnoranze

Why did Comet Elenin have to be the exception? Its surface area is MASSIVE the fact it is 4 km in diameter, and it was only 0.482 AU from the Sun - a large enough distance to escape the threat of "melting".


It is not the exception, it is a comon occurance.

Size is not everything. Composition is important. Think of a giant rocky snowball. Frozen mush. Ice. Then think of speeding in towards the sun, being hit by a CME, gravity.......

It's bound to happen now and then.


reply posted on 17-9-2011 @ 07:39 AM by gamesmaster63
reply to post by CasiusIgnoranze



It didn't melt, it had already broken up when hit by a CME, this probably also vaporized most of the volatiles that were present meaning that even if the pieces came back together somehow there would be nothing left to make a coma, or to hold the pieces together.


reply posted on 17-9-2011 @ 07:58 AM by Chadwickus
reply to post by bluloa



Times up my friend, Dr Cox has spoken.

But it's ok, all evidence showing the disintegration of Elenin has been doctored...

Nice cop out.


reply posted on 17-9-2011 @ 07:58 AM by icecold7
reply to post by bjsmi2


we have no choise but to wait thats why
and i dont buy it
im also guissing its like nothing to see here and then
WHAMMMMMM
but we will know shortly
for a brief second at least lol


reply posted on 17-9-2011 @ 08:11 AM by Essan
Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to
post by bluloa



Times up my friend, Dr Cox has spoken.

But it's ok, all evidence showing the disintegration of Elenin has been doctored...

Nice cop out.



I call your doctored photos, and raise you the fact that Elenin never existed in the first place

Come on guys - prove to me that Elenin was real, and not just all made up by NASA for a bit of fun one quiet Friday afternoon (after a couple of lunchtime pints of Speckled Hen down "Ye Olde Ferret and Firkin English style pub"). Obvious now, innit
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