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Shills, Double Agents, and Provocateurs

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posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 07:18 PM
Why are some people so desperately willing to "call out" a prominent figure in politics/alternative media/"conspiracy culture" as being a shill for the Illuminati/TPTB? Just about every time I'm looking at videos/articles featuring someone who "talks about the really important issues and tells the real truth about things that the MSM won't", sure enough there'll be some fool hollering "SHILL! SHILL! SHILL!" and listing off a bunch of "evidence" to "prove" this accusation.

A common accusation I hear is "How are they still alive after exposing all of this 'secret' information and talking bad about TPTB? Because they're an ILLUMINATI SHILL, THAT'S WHY!"
That's your 'proof'? That they're still alive and saying what they say because their 'Illuminati handlers' allow them to? Ron Paul's been allowed to live and talk smack about the status quo because that's what TPTB have 'ordered' him to do?

Or, the accusation could be "They don't criticize [insert bad guy here] enough, so obviously they're a shill."
They don't get mad about what YOU want them to be mad about? You poor thing.
I've heard Alex Jones called a 'Zionist shill' because he doesn't heavily cover/criticize Israel. So what? Yes, Israel/Zionism may be an important topic of discussion, but IMO, it's small when you consider the Globalists trying to bring in Totalitarian OWG, RFID, depopulation, etc.

I watched a great interview Jesse Ventura had with Disinformation. At the end, he suggested that a one-world government "could be inevitable", but was optimistic in that "it could be benign... if they're elected".
Here's the interview. Go to 36:50 for the points I'm talking about.

It's a surprising opinion coming from a guy like Ventura, but in a way, I can understand what he's getting at.
Some guy down in the comments section took that as proof positive that "The Gov" has "outed himself as a NWO shill!"

The list goes on and on. This person's a shill, that person's a shill. There's one, another one, and another one!
With-a one shill here, and another shill there
Here a shill, there a shill - everywhere a shill, SHILL!
Illuminati had some shills

So what's the deal with just about everyone and their grandmother being slapped with the inevitable "NWO SHILL" label? Are they actually secretly in league with the Illuminati/NWO/TPTB, or is it just a bunch of morons running around looking for something to scream about?

And if all the people we look up to as being "real, honest, strong people" who actually can "get things done" and "make things better" really are 'Shills' - then what's the damn point of looking up to anyone at all?

posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 07:26 PM
if you let these people get to you....... they win.

posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 07:28 PM
reply to post by Leg1on

I can honestly say I've never called anyone a "shill".

Devils advocates do seem to be disinfo though.

Disinfos usually end up being trolls though.

If someone wants to disagree with me thats cool. I'll debate all day long. Sometimes I wish we could be face to face though. With texting we can misinterpret a point as an attack. Non verbal communications are indispensable.

As long as someone isnt a total ass and attacking with obvious "nastiness" (and I dont mean conviction), I really dont care.


I have wondered at some new folks at times being "sock puppets". Anytime I attempt to "test them" I get a freaking "off topic" censor. Kinda pisses me off.

Example would be me making a point and in the middle saying something totally non sequiter. I expect a "wtf" as a sign of a real person. Unfortunately, I"ve never been allowed to test my theory.
edit on 16/9/11 by felonius because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 10:29 PM
Listen, on this website you will always see the same topics.

ANY sort of event will happen. A bombing. A shooting. A plane crash. A public speech. An earthquake. Etc. Etc. Etc.

As a result, anywhere from one to a dozen threads will pop up on the subject. They will claim that the CIA was somehow responsible. Or the Illuminati was behind it all. Possibly that the Devil did it and it's obviously a sign of the coming apocalypse. Maybe that underground lizard men have been working for centuries to make this one event happen. Perhaps it was HAARP.

Maybe they'll argue that (insert famous person here) is hiding the "truth" about the matter for whatever reason. And only THEY know the truth. And they must tell the world.

It happens like clockwork. It's unavoidable. Perhaps the posters on this very website are the disinformation shills. They are so caught up with the need to be heard that they just don't realize it. They don't think before the fingers hit the keys.

posted on Sep, 17 2011 @ 02:55 AM
Isn't this 'shill' thing from GLP?

What is it??

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