200 Ton Drill Getting Buried In New York City Subway Tunnel

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posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 02:19 PM
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As a lot of you locals probably know the second avenue subway is a never-ending zoo of a construction project plagued by empty promises and BS time tables. The newest problem with the project is what to do with the massive drill used to make the tunnel. Apparently burying it a couple hundred feet under Park Avenue is more economical than taking out and scraping it for metal. The New York Times has some cool pictures you guys could check out and a detailed map of its exact location.

Any thoughts



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posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 02:23 PM
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I don't get it. Why did they make a drill in the first place? Aren't you supposed to take the drill out of the working place when finished and use it on the next project?



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 02:26 PM
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FALSE FLAG ANYONE?????!!!!!



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 02:31 PM
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why dont they just keep drilling to connect all the DUMB bases?

edit on 16-9-2011 by reeferman because: lol



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 02:33 PM
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They will just drill a side tunnel, leave the drill there and exit.

It's not a big mystery.

Boring equipment for projects this size are huge. Leaving them in place at the end of the project is not unusual.



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 02:36 PM
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They will probably use it again in the future. They are more likely going to "store" it underground.

I bet it feels pretty cool being down there in those huge tunnels by that amazing piece of equipment!



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 02:37 PM
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i guarantee this is just another way for the city to funnel money through it's corrupt coffers. much like the big dig in boston, this entire project will just end up collapsing in 5-10 years.



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 02:40 PM
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well here is NYTimes news article on it www.nytimes.com... from the link

But the Spanish contractor overseeing the project is taking a different approach. It believes it can save time and money by simply leaving it behind, dormant and decayed, within the rocky depths of Midtown Manhattan. The drill’s final resting place: 14 stories beneath the well-tended sidewalks of Park Avenue.
anything to save money and time, future article " Park Avenue sinks... leaves big hole... has workers puzzled"



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 03:09 PM
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There is not really any mystery here, as the TBM (tunnel boring machine) is drilling the tunnel, the fit out is being done behind it, leaving the tunnel at least a few metres narrower than when it is drilled. Also the actual bored section of the tunnel is underground, and the portal that leads to the eventual entrance is still 10 metres or so below street level. A conventional "cut and cover" tunnel links the bored tunnel with the street.
The machine is driven in to a depressed section beneath the roadway and completely stripped of anything useful, such as drill components, and electronics before it is buried.
I am working on one of these tunnels beneath Brisbane, Australia, and it is amazing to see these machines in action, and watch the construction process.



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 03:10 PM
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Keep drilling until you get to China. Sell it to China for scraps and have them sell it back to us. This is the American way.



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 03:20 PM
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No conspiracy here people.

this happens a lot.

check out what happened with the channel tunnel.

when they finished they just set the controls to the side and ditched it.

its easier than trying to get it out.



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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Well if it was in this neck of the woods the scrappers would work day and night till there was nothing left. They work days and average 5$ an hour but offer them a job. The 2 arrested on my property were on disability when their barn was searched they had 40 man hole covers among the stolen cars and tractors. Going to jail and disability cut.



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 06:59 PM
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can you imagine what the cost where to make that drill. or even what they paid to use it.geez we just burying money around here.

but then i had a cool thought, that thing will remain down there for at least a good 1,000 years. i wonder what the folks living in the NY will thing 1,500 years from now when they find it. a little present from us now to them.

Now to me thats super cool



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 10:19 PM
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Anybody think they plan on making more underground bunker?



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 10:33 PM
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When i was working on the super collider project in Texas there were 4 of these big TBMs and they took them all out.

Yes they are big machines and on the Texas job they ran them from station to station in each contractor area till they hit the next contractor area and then took the rig apart.



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 10:45 PM
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Large underground drill process. Persitent Vibes, regular frequency. Recent Quake ran long distance down East Coast................. I wonder??????



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 11:10 PM
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Heres a thought: In the say 70 years...all the major cities of the WORLD have subways..and updated ones after that...and most, if at least not a majority of them...have left the drilling operatus down where its sits.

In the words of Dana Carvey's "Church Lady"....."How CON-VIENENT!"



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 09:11 AM
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i think in the future eventually they need to start thinking about building down rather than up



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 02:56 PM
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It seems there is a bit of confusion with all the new tunnels being built under Manhattan right now.

The first tunnels are part of the "East Side Access" project which will be used to connect some of the LIRR commuter lines to eight new platforms being built under Grand Central Terminal. When completed in 2018, the ESA project will allow commuters from Long Island to have easier access to the east side of Manhattan through Grand Central Terminal, rather than travel to Penn Station on the west side of the city & then bus /subway /taxi /walk over to their east side offices

The second tunnels are the new "Second Avenue Subway" project which when fully built sometime this millennium will be a new subway line under 2nd Avenue running from 125th St to Hanover Square. Phase I of these tunnels are being built from East 92nd to East 63rd Streets with the tunnels south of 72nd street curving west to connect with the existing subway station at 63rd St & Lexington. The unused half of the 63rd St station is being opened up so instead of terminating at 57th & 7th, starting in 2016 the Q train on the BMT Broadway Line will travel through the 63rd St station & terminate at the new subway station at 96th Street & 2nd Ave. The photos show the 2nd Ave Subway TBM machine ready to start the 'downtown' tunnel bore in May 2010 and this was finished in Feb 2011. The TBM was partially dismantled and pulled back through the completed tunnel back to the starting point at the 92nd St construction site and aligned with the starting hole for the 'uptown' tunnel (as seen on the left side of the photos). Boring for the 'uptown' tunnel started in March 2011 and is expected to 'hole through' at the 63rd Street cavern sometime the week of 18 Sept 2011. This TBM machine will again be partially dismantled and pulled through the second tunnel back to the 92nd St construction site where it will be dismantled and sent back to its owners. This particular TBM machine has been used since the 1980s on various tunnel projects around the world. Between projects it is taken apart & refurbished so it is ’like new’ for the next project it is sent to.

The third tunnels are the new "7 Extension" project which are new tunnels being built from Times Square under 41st St to 11th Ave, then under 11th Ave to 23rd St with a new subway terminus station at 34th St. This extension is a key element of the Hudson Yards Redevelopment Project, and is intended to jump-start the redevelopment of the west side of Midtown Manhattan around the West Side Yard of the Long Island Rail Road. The ‘downtown’ and ‘uptown’ tunnels were dug at the same time using two TBM machines and they were finished in July 2010. These TBM machines were fully dismantled and sent back to their owner for use on future tunneling projects. When this project is finished, the 7 line trains will run through Times Square to the 34th St terminus station. The tunnels south of 34th street are to be used for storing subway trains between rush hours.


The original posting was mixing up these various tunnel projects.

It is true that part of a TBM machine will be left behind underground, but it is only the cutter head of the TBM being used to build the ESA project tunnels. The ESA tunnels are being built south of Grand Central Terminal under Park Ave to about 37th St so LIRR trains can be stored there between the rush hours. Because of the distance from Park & 37th back to the construction box in Queens, the TBM will be completely dismantled right in the tunnel & taken through the tunnels in pieces back to the Queens construction site. The only part that can’t be easily removed is the cutter head itself, so it will be left where it stopped and concreted in place to form the end of the tunnel.

The TBM machines being used for the 7 line Extrension project have already been sent back to their owner for refurbishing, and the TBM being used for the 2nd Ave Subway project will be sent back to its owner later this year. No parts of these machines will be left behind in their tunnels like is being done with the cutter head for the ESA tunnels





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