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Hillary Clinton most popular national political figure: new poll

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posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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One third of Americans believe Hillary Clinton would have been a better president than Barack Obama, and two-thirds view her favorably, according to a new Bloomberg News poll.

"The most popular national political figure in America today is one who was rejected by her own party three years ago: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton," Bloomberg News' John McCormick wrote on the poll's findings, which were released Friday.

"Clinton remains the most popular political figure on the national scene, with 64 percent of those polled saying they have a 'favorable' view of the Secretary of State, Bailey wrote.

news.yahoo.com...

Between the gaffs of politicians on the right and the blunders of politicians on the left, Hillary Clinton is still standing quite strong among the general public.

This says two things to me.

1. She should challenge Barack Obama for the Democratic nomination. She has until Novemebr to still get in the primaries.

2. She can win. If Obama really wanted the White House to remain in Democratic hands, he would drop out of the running before the election and pass the torch to Clinton.

If either fail to happen, its highly likely we will be looking at a President Perry come November 2012.

Your thoughts and reactions?




posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 02:19 PM
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If Hilary becomes POTUS, I'm going to freaking lose it. She is as big a progressive (if not more) than Obama.
Not saying I'm a Perry fan either.

*shudder*



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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Reading the mostly pro-Hillary comments at yahoo was perhaps the scariest part of the article!! Why do so many people have such short memories? I know I recall the many scandals and corruption RE Hillary/Bill. Just who took this poll? Democrats only? I never seem to get called, with either Democrat or Republican polls...and to be quite honest, I don't particularly trust polls. They can be worded a certain way, or skewed, to get the desired result.
Anyway, if TPTB really get scared about Ron Paul's increasing popularity (Paul having the best chance against Obama [according to polls, that is--LOL]) , it would not surprise me to see Hillary enter the race against Obama. "They" may think they'd have a better chance of retaining their power (with a Hillary presidency) in a Paul vs. Hillary scenario...
I have to go take a shower now; feelin' kinda slimy all over...



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 02:40 PM
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I wouldn't say she was worse than Obama. Heck she was even Republican at one time. She campaigned for Barry Goldwater in the 1960s. She only left the party in 1968 due to racism within it, something that still to this day eats at the Republican party.

She has been far more conservative than most democrats on foreign policy as a major supporter of the Global War on Terror, including the surge in Afghanistan, which VP Biden fought against. She has fought against the closure of military bases. She has also fought for veteran's benefits.

She is liberal on social issues, especially as a major supporter of women's rights in the Islamic world.

In my own view she is quite different than Obama, especially on foreign policy, the US military, and human rights.

Between Perry and Obama, I wouldn't vote for Obama. I don't care for Perry. Between Perry and Clinton though, I would be more inclined to support her based on her record in regards to the US military. Off the top of my head, I can't think of a more pro military Democrat. With me being in the military, that is a major factor in deciding my vote.



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 02:49 PM
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I'm going to have to get back with you. Your reply deserves more than my usual snark.
Short answer? Progressive policies, bigger government, and I just don't trust anything she says.



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 02:54 PM
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You have to wonder if the MSM is wanting to try to influence another Dem to take the reigns. Seems to be a little more negative press on O coming from the left leaning media lately.

The thought of having to chose between, O or Hillary and then the other side having Perry, think I'd rather eat dirt, real dirty dirt



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 03:07 PM
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I would not be surprised if the MSM and the Bushes (e.g. Neocons) are pushing for her to run.

Cheney and Rove have so far stood against Perry. There is some kind of history between Perry and the Bush camp, a real bad history. They can't stand him and they can't stand Obama, yet they somewhat respect Hillary (Bill not so much).

Part of the Bush camp support I think is from her support for the war and the military.

The MSM on the other hand are scared of a religious nut, regardless of actual or apparent, getting in the White House. I think they know Obama will not win against Perry and maybe even Palin. They may see Clinton as their only hope against a Palin, Perry or Bachman.



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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another elite liked by these supposed rich elites americans eh?



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
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another elite liked by these supposed rich elites americans eh?


Liked by one faction of the "elite" patricians.

There are more than one group of patricians in the US and they arn't united.

Its kind of like mafia crime families, except they have way more power than the mafias.



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 03:18 PM
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Not a very good statement on our political instatution. I seem to remember something called "Whitewater".



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 03:21 PM
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Obama/Clinton 2012.


I've been saying it for a while now...but it's too early for them to announce that. They have to wait until the Republicans get their candidate finalized...and then they will announce this to deflate their hopes.


And then....Clinton for President in 2016....it's almost too easy....hope they are smart enough to do it.



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 03:33 PM
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I don't know if she will be enough to save Obama, his rating is dropping so fast that any lift she provides will be minor. Obama is bad kryptonite. He needs to wake up like Johnson did in 1968 and drop from the race.

She needs to sever the link between them to get the general public to support her.

Otherwise President Perry has a real good chance of happening.



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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more likely most known name to voters



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 03:39 PM
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Ugh.

that is all...



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 03:44 PM
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when hillary quits her current job then im will get upset

one clinton as potus was enough dont need another.

with regards to that poll they arent asking the right people.


beezer hillary is a self proclaimed progressive the video is out there of it for anyone who wants to listen
edit on 16-9-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 03:51 PM
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She is socially progressive, but she is not the Anti-American, Anti-War, and Anti-Military type at all.

So sure she supports abortion, civil rights and gay rights, but she won't do like Obama and blame the US for all that is wrong in the world, while making overtures at potential enemies.



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 04:42 PM
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Some vids may help.. . .






In the United States, the term progressivism emerged in reference to a more general response to the vast changes brought by industrialization: an alternative to both the traditional conservative response to social and economic issues and to the various more radical streams of socialism and anarchism which opposed them. Political parties, such as the Progressive Party, organized at the start of the 20th century, and progressivism made great strides under American presidents Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and Lyndon Baines Johnson.

en.wikipedia.org...

I just don't trust her.



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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Its all about name and face recognition in the game of politics. If people are not familiar with a name or a face on a ballot they for vote for the name that rings a bell. Hillary was first lady for two terms, a candidate for POTUS and now Sec. of State. She definitely has the recognition aspect in the bag.

As far as the growing talk of her running up against Obama again... I'm all for it. Obama needs a reality check in a bad way and Hillary is certainly the one that could slap him silly. I still think she's withholding key details about Obama's past. The power of the Clinton machine is far greater than anything Obama can conjure up.



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 04:51 PM
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Oh please. Enough with the disinformation.

Hilary is just like Obama and just like her husband. Nothing would change.

Not to mention her connections to the Elite, which are more diabolical than Obama could ever hope to be.

Besides, enough of the Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton nonsense (Obama broke that pattern though).



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by The Sword
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Oh please. Enough with the disinformation.

Hilary is just like Obama and just like her husband. Nothing would change.

Not to mention her connections to the Elite, which are more diabolical than Obama could ever hope to be.

Besides, enough of the Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton nonsense (Obama broke that pattern though).

I disagree. I think she would be worse. Although, it'd be just a matter of degrees.



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