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Originally posted by koji_K
I've heard here and there (both on this forum and elsewhere) that the witnesses and documents presented by the Disclosure Project are unreliable because their founder, Dr. Greer (I think) has a hidden agenda of some sort, presumably different from exposing the truth about UFO's. People usually just say this but don't explain why or what this hidden agenda is. Is it just to sell "Disclosure Project" hats and t-shirts, or something more sinister? Anyone know? Basically I just want to know if there's a good reason I should be dubious of the Disclosure Projects' claims.
Originally posted by DeltaChaos
Originally posted by Cade
Please join us here:
Why? Because this is a thread you started, and you want the points?
I believe the agenda is clear: He wants to destroy the effort on the part of the government to build space-based weapons. There are all kinds of different people who also have this agenda and are exploiting all different avenues of approach to meet their ends.
That is the most prominent explanation that I can find. I just ordered "Disclosure", the 500+ page document containging the testimony of those who have agreed to state their cases before congress under oath. When I read it, I intend to do a book report and post it here on ATS.
My stance on the issue is one of curious skepticism. I'm more interested in whether or not we have in our posession alien technology, and if so, what are we doing with it.
Originally posted by koji_K
i believe most of them are geniune also (although there were a few nuts in that press conference briefing among them... i have serious doubts about that woman claiming Werner Von Braun warned her about an alien war...)
my only guess as to a possible "other motive" for the disclosure project as of this moment is that it has something to do with being anti-SDI, as Greer uses the bulk of his evidence to support his view that we shouldn't weaponize space. but if this were REALLY his hidden agenda, there are much more "respectable" and effective ways of promoting it than going through the trouble to convince us all of the consequences it might bring in therms of a conflict with aliens.
Originally posted by kyateLaBoca
Why would there be a hidden agenda????
Lets just assume there is an hidden agenda for many conspiracy theorists out there. Well How can you say its for money?? In fact, they've been running low on money, which is why they couldnt gather up the funds to start up a new conference. And lets say if this is all about money, then wouldnt you want to have another press conference to keep the heat on and to get people to buy your stuff??? They havent had a press conference in 3 years.
As for the hats, the DVDs, etc, you actually need all that if you want some funding to take the disclosure project to the next level. On top of that, they have 200 - 400 witnesses. Now how do you compensate for all of them? I know the disclosure project's income isnt that of a steady one.
Did you know that Greer is a doctor?(no hes not BSing) You can actually look up his name and license on the medical board on the virginia medical board's website. It says his license was inactivated(or not renewed) by request of him. This guy could have been makeing a lot more money being a doctor rather than working for the disclosure project.
So now its more of a question about the witnesses. I've said this before...IF YOU CAN DISPROVE THE WITNESSES WITH SOME OF YOUR RESEARCH, THEN YOU HAVE THE FLOOR AND MY EARS. So if you can show without a doubt that they didnt work here or that the documentation they have is false I'll consider you for a very valid argument.
Originally posted by Seth76
As long as the disclosure project is a hot topic, what about this organization?
Extraterrestrial Phenomena Political Action Committee
What exactly is their agenda? What are they doing? Has anyone read anything about them taking an active role politically?
The website basically says that they wish to raise $550,000 before they will take political action, “The very fact of such funding to a political action committee with the aims of X-PPAC would send a shock wave throughout Washington, DC.” I guess they are holding high the statement that money talks? Smells fishy to me.
Wouldn’t it be better for all of these organizations to come together to make action?
[edit on 4-10-2004 by Seth76]