I was cut as an infant. But my drive has always been like someone glued a brick to the pedal of Mustang.

When I had kids, i didn't elect for them to have it. I don't see the point. It's BASIC hardware. Comes with the package. Why change it? If they want to they can do it when they're older.

I don't see how being cut would affect transmission a STD.

I mean honestly, that's like saying the new Shape of the penis offers once cut offers less of a physical vacuum force in motion and thereby has less contact with fluids reducing transmission by x percent.

Of course I could make something up for the other argument too.

It's like the 5 Second Rule. BS. If you drop something on the floor for 5 seconds or 50. It has the SAME amount of germs.


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The topic of circumcision is an interesting one. Basically, there is no answer. None. I've never found any real answer to it. People say it is done for hygiene, or visual reasons, or religious reasons. If you ask the religious people about it they don't know why. There is no reason known. It is done out of habit apparently. I mean, before circumcision nobody was circumcised. So how did it start? Nobody knows. There is literally no answer to the question. Amazing. No answer.

Originally posted by XXX777
The topic of circumcision is an interesting one. Basically, there is no answer. None. I've never found any real answer to it. People say it is done for hygiene, or visual reasons, or religious reasons. If you ask the religious people about it they don't know why. There is no reason known. It is done out of habit apparently. I mean, before circumcision nobody was circumcised. So how did it start? Nobody knows. There is literally no answer to the question. Amazing. No answer.

A few thousands years ago, it was done to prevent sand and other particles to accumulate under the foreskin. At a time where hygene was problematic at best it might have made some sense. It does not now. Except for real medical reason, circumcision is a crime and a genital mutilation and should be viewed on the same level as excision. To cut a newborn for religious purposes is a crime against humanity.

Its not working!!!

In my experience it only hightens sexual desire.

Ive been circum since age of 4.

Ive been an every day man for 40 years!!!

So that conspiracy's in the bin!

Everytime I hear someone trying to "explain" how not to contract H I V, I am reminded of my father's "sure fire prevention method".

He was still alive when the virus first came to light and surmissed this method.

"Sit down on your @rss and keep your mouth shut!"

Originally posted by blah yada
Well if circumcision is done to get rid of sexual desire, I can personally testify that it is an epic failure. Damn it I'm so horny right now, you just point me something out,......... a couch, a door, anything.... and I'll f#*% it.

Too late. The desk lamp just got it.

Circumcision if anything only heightens the desire. It's like...." Well, the ba@#*rds already had one shot at cleaving it off.Better get the most out of it before they come back like thieves in the night, and swipe the rest"

I really don't see the need for circumcision.I know that it's prescribed by God in the Torah, along with stoning gays to death and how to make financial atonement for raping your neighbour's daughter, but I guess I'm just not into the ol Torah.

I have heard of the practice of female circumcision for said purpose, primarily in African countries. This is brutal and motivated by even shallower reasoning than that of religion.

If god made us in his image, and then instructs us to cut off our foreskin.... How come he didn't just make us without the foreskin to begin with?

LOL, religious text is so full of #.

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Yeah, you are right, OP. What is the deal with a male child's first introduction to other human beings culminating in having a stainless steel clamp attached to his dick so that one of the most nerve rich regions of his body can be crushed, incised and removed with no anesthesia?

If you pull this thread long and hard enough (bwahhahaha) you are going to unravel some very nasty sweaters.

I do not the origins of circumcision... I think it began with the Jewish religious laws?

but I am always surprised that the Christians, or anyone not Jewish would circumcise their beautiful, whole, intact young sons.

Here is what it is recorded that Jesus had to say about it. This is from the Gospel According To Thomas (which were found in 1948 and were unchanged by the Pharisees who usurped the teachings of Jesus in order to maintain their control and power over the citizens)


(53) His disciples said to Him : "Is circumcision useful or not ?" He said to them : "If it were useful, their Father would beget them already circumcised from their mother. Rather, the true circumcision in spirit is in all ways useful.

So, I read this as Jesus saying God made you with what you are born with, so just leave it be.

Then I think he is saying circumcision in spirit is when the shell of mistaken beliefs are 'cut away' and in the removal of the sheath of your heart or of your soul, or whatever comes between God and your heart should be cut away....the cutting away of what stands between your spirit and God "is more useful" ....

You know, kind of like when our heart is made bare and we are open to God's Love, that would be a spiritual circumcision---or when the sense of separation between God and Life is cut away then we can thrive spiritually.

Anyway, the implication is that circumcision is probably not useful and just strange ritual for reasons no one knows anymore. Now, in these days, leaving our babies intact might be the wiser and more considerate and caring choice. Poor little guys, it just seems so barbaric and cruel and for what reason? makes no sense.

That it has been accepted as a religious thing? Jesus certainly made clear his thoughts on it...I do not know if this same parable is in the Bible we have now. For Christians, it is not required. Perhaps even the Jews had it wrong, and maybe their old laws were really speaking in mystical, spiritual, symbolic, metaphysical terms, and some rabbis read it and mis-interpreted and took it too literally?? Ouch!

Perhaps the time is come to change the cultural acceptance of this useless and maybe even detrimental ritual.

I don't know any statistics or feel like looking it up but all I can say is that 2 of my 5 ex's were circumcised, both for hygienic reasons, and they were a lot hornier then the others.