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Greek/Hindu Mythology=Quantum mechanics

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posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 05:22 PM
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In Asian philosophy, the concept of yin yang (simplified Chinese: 阴阳; traditional Chinese: 陰陽; pinyin: yīnyáng), which is often referred to in the West as "yin and yang", is used to describe how polar opposites or seemingly contrary forces are interconnected and interdependent in the natural world, and how they give rise to each other in turn. Opposites thus only exist in relation to each other. The concept lies at the origins of many branches of classical Chinese science and philosophy-
Like matter; which has negatively(-) charged electrons and; anti-matter has positrons(+) positively charged electrons the yin and the yang has mostly white side with a small black circle within it, the mostly black side has a small white circle inside it both are circling within the whole circle that encompasses them all

Greek Mythology=Quantum mechanics, also known as quantum physics or quantum theory, is a branch of physics providing a mathematical description of the wave–particle duality of matter and energy. The theory of relativity(except space-time is accually Gravity-Time) and The Big Bang theory of the early development of the universe All starting from one thing.

Greek Mythology begins with Chaos” the all” a yawning nothingness. Out of the void emerged Gaia [Hindu Kali] (the Earth- mother of all[matter and anti-matter]) and some other primary divine beings or” Gods head” [ Hindu Brahman],: Eros (Love)[Hindu Vishnu the maintainer or preserver], the Abyss (the Tartarus is the unbounded first-existing entity from which the Light and the cosmos are born)[Hindu Brahma the creator], and the Erebus (deep darkness, shadow)[ Hindu-Shiva the destroyer or transformer] . Without male assistance, Gaia gave birth to Uranus (the Sky/Heavens/Void) who then fertilized her. From that union were born first the Titans—six females: Mnemosyne, Phoebe, Rhea, Theia, Themis, and Tethys; and six males: Oceanus, Coeus, Crius, Hyperion, Iapetus, and Cronus

After Cronus (Father of Time/meaning father of Gravity) was born (Ancient Greek: Κρόνος, Krónos) was the leader and the youngest of the first generation of Titans, He overthrew his father and ruled during the mythological Golden Age, He was destined to be overcome by his own sons, just as he had overthrown his father. As a result, he devoured the gods he sired them all as soon as they were born.

Until his last child, Zeus the "Father of Gods and men "(Electro-magnet force) fought him freed his imprisoned brothers Poseidon” God of the Sea”(Weak Nuclear Force) and Hades “Lord of the Underworld”(Strong Nuclear Force) imprisoning Cronus(Time/Gavity) in Tartarus.




posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 05:31 PM
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Interesting,

How does your theory work in the gods all being named after planets (or visa versa)?
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posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by MasterGemini
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Interesting,

How does your theory work in the gods all being named after planets ?
Just wow! The planets are named for the gods my friend. I just don't know what else to say. Were you recently educated by union teachers in the US?

ETA: I see you edited the vice versa in while I was responding.
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posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 06:46 PM
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This the start of our understanding Humanities past knowledge, Which is scattered and hidden within all Ancient religions and legends that has been keep from all people by those who wish themselves Masters of Truth for “In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.”
en.wikipedia.org...

THIS IS IMPORTANT Since knowing this allows one to decipher the (Knowledge of Truth) Many aspects of the diverse cultures religions and concepts that overlap and contrast each other, but possess within them the truth of all modern scientific knowledge

Hermetics is the deliberate use of exceedingly obscure, convoluted, or esoteric literary or graphical symbolism and imagery. It is what Kabbalah and Christian mysticism-Knights Templar associated with legends concerning secrets and mysteries handed down to the select from ancient times and also Rosicrucianism influential to Freemasonry, The Order of Freemasons Scottish Rite, closely associated with Protestantism and Jesuits associated with Roman Catholicism. Sufism or taṣawwuf (Arabic: تصوّف‎) is the mystical dimension of Islam
en.wikipedia.org...

In Hermetic religion the supreme Deity, or Principle, is referred to variously as 'God', 'The All', or 'The One'. The absolute is the central focus of Hermeticism and therefore it is difficult to assign it a position among the traditional Theistic religions, or along the monotheistic and polytheistic spectrum.

Alchemy—not simply the changing of physical lead into physical gold; But is the Art of Manipulation (Jedi mind trick), Same as magic is the Art of Deception.

Those who are Masters of Truth whether for the good of others (guarding of truth)[jedi] or for reasons of their own self-interests (manipulators of truth)[Sith][Good/Bad,Light/Dark,Positive/Negative Forces] Possess the great of powers over others

The Destruction of knowledge perpetrated by the people of the book (Judaism/Christianity/Islam) against all cultures and religions (Hindu/Chinese/Meso-American) to in effect deprive people of the true meaning of behind mythological hidden knowledge.

To elevate themselves to the statetes of God by making the World believe their answer of Truth

I may loath the Global Elite, Illuminate or whatever you want to call the wealthy powerful group of people, who for generations now have manipulated events, by giving other predefine choices that no matter what way anyone person, group or nation decides do there it must either choose between the lesser of two evils or take a opposing positions that work against a solution by polarizing the other side. Essentially using soft power to play the rest of world’s population for fools without most being aware of it,

That being said I respect them for being incredibly smart and intelligent. Through using the established divisions and subdivisions so prevalent throughout history in all human cultures like race, religion, class in addition to any other idea or belief they can influence or corrupt (i.e. , nationalism to divide up and maintain power over the world, without being known or held accountable, similar to corporate structure where CEOs can be vilified and replaced so to can a nation states leaders or government take the fall to appease discontent. To achieve this is amazing because if you understanding that those with wealth are the most invested in society and its continuation because wealth seeks power in order to protect itself, you know anyone would choose to protect what they have, But to do it in a way that where the majority of people never know you have it is genius.
No matter how misguided it is.

Once Everyone on earth spoke the same language Science and The Spirit where one in the same thing.
---(Genesis 11:1) And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. 2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. 3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for mortar. 4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. 5 And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children built. 6 And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do; and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. 7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. 8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. 9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 06:50 PM
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So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.-sun tzu

All history is hidden

History is the most important subject in any society it establishes authority and mindset for the rest of persons life, by shaping the way a human being interpret and understand a societies structure; they’re position within it plus the position of groups and sub-groups as well as the reinforcing bias towards other individuals or groups/sub-groups, both outside and inside the social network making up they’re world.

History is always best comprehended from present to past with every historical event having a reason(s) behind its outcome.
When you start school, the story of history starts at the beginning, like any piece fiction of literature does, the impressionable young minds are told about ideas and theories of what may have happened long long ago despite being far removed from the present world because the closer to the present one is the more in-depth and credible the facts become making the ability to comprehend and question the story being told easier and the ability to shadow the true harder.

The truth for the must part will unfortunately be lost from us in time leaving us with a few puzzle pieces to almost infinite piece puzzle where many answers could be true and leads to highly speculative ideas that further fix notions of the what happened in the past often used to manipulate people(s) understanding of both present and future though the past

This quote speaks of the things that made the United State of America the greatest nation on earth

"As a teenager, I heard John Kennedy’s summons to citizenship. And then, as a student at Georgetown, I heard that call clarified by a professor named Carroll Quigley, who said to us that America was the greatest Nation in history because our people had always believed in two things–that tomorrow can be better than today and that every one of us has a personal moral responsibility to make it so."
-Bill Clinton

In this greatest of strengths lies an Achilles heel, for with the removal of hope for a better tomorrow from hearts and minds of people, nations and entire cultures leads to the delusion of our moral obligation to each other to make the world better for all people. This destructive chaos leads the soul of humanity to back down from where it came, this decay from within has happened to great peoples of powerful empires which can teach us about where we have digressed as a species. For the hopes of all peoples of all nations matter because the ideas and ideals of the American dream are universally shared dreams of most people who wish to be free and live in a better tomorrow for there sake and yours. These are hopes which are to big to fail and dream that are to important fall from our minds because without hopes and dreams there would be no civilization for families to enjoy, because without those forces that will us together and make humanity surpass are wildest imaginations of our happiest dreams



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 11:03 PM
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Er, uhm. Wow.

It seems you have researched your history books, but forgot to research modern science journals. I fail to see the connection between QM and mythology.

Here's a term for you: Anthropomorphism


Anthropomorphism is any attribution of human characteristics (or characteristics assumed to belong only to humans) to non-human animals, non-living things, phenomena, material states, objects or abstract concepts, such as spirits or deities. The term was coined in the mid 1700s.[1][2] Examples include animals and plants and forces of nature such as winds, rain or the sun depicted as creatures with human motivations, and/or the abilities to reason and converse.

SOURCE.

Mythology was created by people, who actually believed in it. They had no better explanation for the events occurring around them. Quantum Mechanics is the result of years of studying the events around us.

Please clarify the tie-in.

Thanks.



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 11:45 PM
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So what particle is Ganesha?



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 12:47 AM
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Originally posted by IblisLucifer
Greek Mythology=Quantum mechanics, also known as quantum physics or quantum theory, is a branch of physics providing a mathematical description of the wave–particle duality of matter and energy.
I've studied quantum mechanics and Greek Mythology. I remember the mathematical description of the wave function in quantum mechanics, but I don't recall any mathematical descriptions of wave functions from Greek Mythology. Therefore they are not equal as you suggest.

Did I sleep through that part of the class or are you just making up fertilizer?

It's a rhetorical question, because I didn't sleep through class.
I'm pretty sure there were no mathematical wave functions in Greek Mythology, but feel free to clarify what you failed to convey in your OP, if you really feel otherwise.



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 11:14 PM
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Ganesha is widely revered as the Remover of Obstacles and more generally as Lord of Beginnings and Lord of Obstacles, a patron of arts and sciences, and the deva of intellect and wisdom.
Like Ganesha is to Vayu to Hanuman

Hyperion (God of Watchfulness and Wisdom) is to Prometheus is Hermes/Hermes Trismegistus "thrice-great Hermes"

the bible says "God created man in His own image" and it is the image of the mind not the body the ability to create or destroy think and reason
remember an elephant never forgets

these gods are the aspects of thought, knowledge, understanding and wisdom which is the power humanity

Hermetics is the deliberate use of exceedingly obscure, convoluted, or esoteric literary or graphical symbolism and imagery. It is what Kabbalah and Christian mysticism, The Order of Freemasons and Alchemy—not simply the changing of physical lead into physical gold; But is the Art of Manipulation (Jedi mind trick), Same as magic is the Art of Deception.

en.wikipedia.org...

In Hermetic religion the supreme Deity, or Principle, is referred to variously as 'God', 'The All', or 'The One'. The absolute is the central focus of Hermeticism and therefore it is difficult to assign it a position among the traditional Theistic religions, or along the monotheistic and polytheistic spectrum. Hermeticism transcends both Monotheism and Polytheism as well as Deism and Pantheism within its belief system, which teaches that there is a transcendent God, The All, or one "Cause", of which we, and the entire universe, participate. Also it subscribes to the notion that other beings such as gods and angels, and elementals exist in the Universe.



posted on Sep, 17 2011 @ 09:10 AM
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Why can't we study Harry Potter or maybe Captain Underpants and deduce some vague, inaccurate study of quantum mechanics too?

I fail to see how Ganesha losing his head and becoming an elephant has anything to do with science.

It's like saying "the number 1 represents x" and giving a numerological explanation of 1. Okay, that's what you claim, but why?
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posted on Sep, 17 2011 @ 09:26 AM
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It's funny how these vague associations are always made after the events.



posted on Sep, 17 2011 @ 02:53 PM
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No ancient Greek or Hindu philosophers had a clue about quantum mechanics. There was not one important result in quantum mechanics known to ancients, either empirically or philosophically.

The structure of the results and mathematics starting from the Bohr/Heisenberg theory were very different from anything else. Greeks didn't know a thing about differential equations much less abstract vector spaces.

Quantum mechanics came from very smart 20th century humans looking at perplexing experimental data and then having some precocious insights.

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posted on Sep, 17 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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3000 year from now if human civilization and culture had digressed from a catastrophe leaving only a few people to carry on the knowledge from before how would your average person with a 2.0 GPA teach their children what they understand about History and Science like Physics, Biology, Physiology and the math to back it up that they never really got cause they where hitting on the kids future mother in class over time wont the language that we use no longer serve any purpose to how they live and survive vs. the present social structure.

Mythology is the dumbed down version of what we have only in the last 300 years have been able to fully comprehend and articulately explain in both math and language that is to complex for the average individual to care about

Will people 5000 years from now view the people 3000 years from the present as idiots with little understanding and nothing to teach us but fictional stories or does looking at these people with an open mind help us to enlighten the way we define and categorize humanities knowledge.

--"There are no facts, only interpretations"-- Nietzsche
so why would you limit yourself to only one interpretation
Republicans-Democrats
Capitalist-Communist
Left-Right Up-Down
Bloods-Crips Norte-Sureno
Us and Them

Divide et impera (Latin meaning Divide and conquer)

In the greatest of strengths always lies an Achilles heel, Grouping together for safety is a natural thing and a great strength for animals and people seeking protection as well as the advantages of the herd or nation to provide for what is most important the next generation. This essential aspect drives cultural and social identity
Which serve to unity people as easily as it can be used to take advantage of them playing one side against another weakening them both and leads to the delusion of our moral obligation to each other to make the world better for all people. This destructive chaos leads the soul of humanity back down from where it came, this decay from within has happened to great peoples of powerful empires throughout history why should you think yourself superior to them as they did to those before them. Which way can teach us about where we have digressed as a species, showing us how to improve and progress

Rather then falling in to the trap of our own willful blindness

www.newstatesman.com...



posted on Sep, 17 2011 @ 10:26 PM
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so you're saying that since over time what we know (currently) will be dumbed down thousands of years later, that the ancient greeks may have know quantum physics because it's impossible to tell what they knew in great detail?

Dude, that's not how it works. Look at reading itself. Let's go way back to Sumerian times and look at the writings there. Can we decipher from that alone the extent of knowledge they had? Definitely not. Nor can we decipher what the hottest music group was at that time either.

But quantum physics?? Never have I seen any mention of particles or waves in ANY greek mythos.
I've spent YEARS reconstructing blueprints from ancient ideas as well as with the help of current science to draw up plans for some amazing things, sure. But to say that they completely understood WHY these things worked? Bump that, that's crazy talk.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 12:41 AM
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yes but the people who lived before them and though before them might have but what good is reading and writing when you have to try and survive anything can happen over 1 year let alone 1000 years or 5000 who would know who would care the only things most people care about is food sex and whats theirs

Cities come and go so do empires and civilizations in 10,000 years what will be left on earth if an event took place and only 1 million or 100,000 people survived- the pyramids, hoover dam maybe pieces of the great wall of china not much else the forces of nature will wipe the earth clean as long as some people survive what pass with them the stories they tell their children which only get more simplified as civilization degenerates and depending on how long that takes to begin the climb back from bottoming out what way will they have to explain theses stories in human terms and not in science or any other complex way because that takes 100 of years to develop.
Since new ways of viewing how things may have happened like all new ideas and ways of thinking always encounter the scorn of those who seen no reason to think anymore then they all ready have to

History is the most important subject in any society it establishes authority and mindset for the rest of persons life, by shaping the way a human being interpret and understand a societies structure; they’re position within it plus the position of groups and sub-groups as well as the reinforcing bias towards other individuals or groups/sub-groups, both outside and inside the social network making up they’re world.

All history is hidden by present power because wealth always seeks power to protect itself

Thats why History is always best comprehended from present to past with every historical event having a reason(s) behind its outcome.

When you start school, the story of history starts at the beginning, like any piece fiction of literature does, the impressionable young minds are told about ideas and theories of what may have happened long long ago despite being far removed from the present world because the closer to the present one is the more in-depth and credible the facts become making the ability to comprehend and question the story being told easier and the ability to shadow the true harder.

The truth for the must part will unfortunately be lost from us in time leaving us with a few puzzle pieces to almost infinite piece puzzle where many answers could be true and leads to highly speculative ideas that further fix notions of the what happened in the past often used to manipulate people(s) understanding of both present and future though the past



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 09:53 AM
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I'm also going to go along with the "no, that doesn't follow logically" crowd.

In order to develop quantum mechanics, you have to develop math to the point where you have calculus and you have to develop an understanding of the universe to the point where you can craft things accurately enough to create devices to measure the world around you. That means creating highly accurate timepieces (which means you also have to have writing and records and a good level of metallurgy) and mathematics that can accurately measure angular momentum as well as measure of energy very accurately (the "quanta" of quantum mechanics.) And you have to develop classical physics first, because that is the groundwork for quantum mechanics.

Even on a symbolic level, this doesn't work ... unless you're making some sort of definition of quantum mechanics that is really different from what the rest of us mean by "quantum mechanics."



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