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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Janky Red
nothing adult about that post
and who do i support prey tell?
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Janky Red
Well, thanks for the reply to my question. That is what I was asking. I have seen a lot of left leaning people on this site and Ron Paul ppl saying to get rid of the Fed. With that we are in agreement. But maybe not for the same reason.
That brings us to who controls the money supply in the country. It is supposed to be under direct control of Congress.However, Jefferson did not want a central Bank. So in my view, neither a central bank set up by the govt nor one set up by private interests is good.
Statists want more govt control and free marketeers want more private control.
I see it
Having a strong private central bank called the Fed fooled everyone. We see how the central bank uses the federal govt to support its policies.
They write off the govt debt in exchange for enslaving the public collectively to its system of usury.
The UN has also co-opted this method. They call it a "public-private" partnership.
This again is where we part company. Marxian philosophy and communism is to abolish private property and make everything the property of the collective. However, in reality this never works.
We saw the centralized planning fail in the former USSR. You remember that right? Marx thought that if the evil bourgeoisie were eliminated, and all private property were eliminated, the proletariat working class would be in charge. No one would own anything and everyone would be taken care of (by the Nanny State). So in essence, private property is gone, but now the State owns it collectively. So you have just exchanged one control for another really, with individual rights suffering as a consequence.
So when you say you are for liberalism, I take that you think that means individual rights, but you would be mistaken under the current trend of what runs as liberalism today.
I suspect that you may fall into the camp of anarcho-socialist Chomsky. That way, the illusion of libertarian rights is maintained.
In regards to my point about “enforcing righteousness” I was only referring to enforcing government to be righteous in its actions, not necessarily in being righteous as in “social justice” for the people. That is all.
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Janky Red
answer the question who do i support? make the claim answer
we can talk about hypocrisy fine with me plenty of hyocritical postings from you.
but nope lets make the topic about me.
meh
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Janky Red
last time name them who do i support
or stop trolling.
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Misoir
In regards to my point about “enforcing righteousness” I was only referring to enforcing government to be righteous in its actions, not necessarily in being righteous as in “social justice” for the people. That is all.
been awhile since we argue man kinda missed it
i do not feel that its government place to be righteous its place is to be neither its only responsibities is to stay out of the citizens way or life just to get out of the way and not to keep them down.
for true justice to exist in this land all they have to do is follow and abide by the constitution is my beleif.
everything else falls into place.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Misoir
Republicans are the dissenting voice for an overly bloated, statist government being expanded by fabian socialists. That is the context and we can see this in the Republican standoff with Democrats now.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Misoir
Republicans are the dissenting voice for an overly bloated, statist government being expanded by fabian socialists. That is the context and we can see this in the Republican standoff with Democrats now.