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China warns India and Vietnam : Do not do oil exploration in the South China Sea

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posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 11:55 AM
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Because China says it's theirs.

R efrain from South China Sea oil exploration: China to India

China today asked India and other countries to refrain from oil exploration in maritime areas offered by Vietnam in the South China Sea, claiming that it enjoys "indisputable sovereignty" there.

"I would like to reaffirm that China enjoys indisputable sovereignty over the South China Sea and the island. China's stand is based on historical facts and international law," Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Jiang Yu told a media briefing here without directly referring to India.

When pointed out the India's stand apparently was guided by Vietnam's claim that it had rights over the two oil blocks under the 1982 UN Convention on the Law of the Seas, Jiang said China's sovereign rights and positions are formed in the course of history and this position has been held by Chinese Government for long.

She was answering questions over reports of ONGC Videsh Ltd plans to undertake oil exploration in two Vietnam blocks in South China Sea which was expected to figure in External Affairs Minister S M Krishna's talks with his Vietnamese counterpart in Hanoi tomorrow.


And China, when it comes to their ``sovereignty`` even if it's total BS, are not bluffing.




posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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China is flexing their power more and more, its gone be a "chinese" Century, as the last was the American one. hopefully it will be less empire building on their part.



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 11:58 AM
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heh, theres definitely a pattern to the disparity.

USA creates false flags to steal other countries' oil

whilst CHINA puts it blunt.

either case, the world is running out of oil/natural gas and will 'frack' the earth till kingdom come for the last drop.

that is all.



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 11:58 AM
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China should be very careful who they threaten .. India would kick China's arrogant arse in an armed military conflict. China has a larger army, but India's is more advanced and seasoned. Not to mention India is the only country on the planet that, if needed, could match China's ground troop capabilities with numbers.



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
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China should be very careful who they threaten .. India would kick China's arrogant arse in an armed military conflict. China has a larger army, but India's is more advanced and seasoned. Not to mention India is the only country on the planet that, if needed, could match China's ground troop capabilities with numbers.

Not to mention that logistically, China has more to lose in the event of a conflict as many of their industrial and modernized cities and regions will be a difficult task to rebuild.

India has expanded their infrastructure but majority of the suburbs and country side still remain the same as they were left by the British back in 1947. The Indians can do with less and survive as they have shown time after time after all the major dynasties that invaded the country in the past.



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 12:13 PM
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yes but most likely in any conflict India would have to deal with Pakistan before china, so China could feel they got india covered.



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 12:14 PM
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On behalf of Vietnam: I say to YOU China...Remember what happened in the Khmer Rouge, shortly after the Vietnam War?

Sure you claim victory...But we all know who really won here.

Vietnam are not afraid to fight.



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 12:17 PM
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I'd say it belongs to Malaysia, Philippines and Vietnam and perhaps a small portion of it should be Chinese.

Maybe it's time to upgrade the covert operations going there and unleash a civil war to ensure that the leadership is crippled. I know we've been trying to stir up # by infiltrating "minority" groups but it needs to go down quicker as they start to roar their tail.



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 12:18 PM
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$50.00 US on Vietnam...






posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 12:23 PM
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The United States contends the South China Sea oil fields belong to Taiwan, Vietnam and the Philippines.

China's only real claim (under UN treaty) is a few sparsely populated islands it controls in the middle of the sea. Though "Historically" China feels it owns essentially all of Asia.

The reason China has not began drilling is the dispute with the USA and Taiwan .. the USA backs Taiwan's sovereignty of the sea, and armed it's military to counter anything China can dish out .. including new rockets designed to sink their one and only aircraft carrier.



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 12:56 PM
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"On the basis of this China is ready to engage in peaceful negotiations and friendly consultations to peacefully solve the disputes over territorial sovereignty and maritime rights so as to positively contribute to peace and tranquillity in the South China Sea area," she said.


Yeah right, China. I bet they will have armed submarines patrolling the area at all times.



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 01:01 PM
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Whats the spread?

I'll take some of that and place another bet on India.

Didn't India just come out a little while ago with a new home made Main Battle Tank using some of the latest technology?


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posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 01:01 PM
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Let me get this straight.
China is calling "dibs" on the South China Sea?

We should call dibs on Venesuela, since it's in South "America".




posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 01:05 PM
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china better leave taiwan alone they make the motherboard for the pc i built


2 billion people 2 countries then vietnam

i take india things get too bad they can always nuke each other.



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 01:20 PM
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China really needs to go back and read the UN definition of what is National territory, and what an Exclusive Economic Zone are.

China interprets the EEZ as sovereign territory, when in fact it only allows a nation to claim resources, not land / water, in the area.

When there are overlapping areas, a resolution is found by splitting.

Apparently China is going greedy...

As far as their actions go towards Vietnam and China, it stems from an incident where Indian naval vessel did a port call in Vietnam. Once they left territorial waters 2 Chinese warships challeneged the Indian naval vessel, demanding identification and reason for being in chinese waters.

China and Inda have fought 3 wars to date... If a 4th one hits, it wont be pretty.

There is no lost love between China and Vietnam either, as they have fought a war after the Us pulled out of Vietnam. China also has claims in Kashmir, although only India and Pakistan ever make the news when tensions rise there.

China has territorial disputes now with just about all nations in the South Asia arena, both land and sea. They have territoral issues with India, Pakistan and several other countries in that area of the world. I think china is confusing economic issues with advantage in a military conflict.
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posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 01:25 PM
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posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 01:27 PM
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All your claims are belong to us.....


Hmmmmmm



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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Oh looky looky here. China finally fixes up that old carrier and the imperialism just starts to bust open from the seams. Are all the people who have been cheering China on as the new World power now seeing it doesn't matter who's on top they implore the same strategies.



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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No, they wont notice a change until they show up at their door and take their computers and PS3's from them because of national security reasons.

NSFW - Language - Special attention to time index 110

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posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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Do the Chinese remember what happened the last time they invaded Vietnam back in 1979? They got their butts handed to them by the Vietnamese Border Guard and local militia and police forces. The Chinese were running back across the border before the first units of the Vietnamese People's Army even arrived on the battlefront.



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