Capitalism is slavery

reply to post by NadaCambia


So you started a business, in which you exchanged a service you had to people who wanted it in exchange for money to provide for yourself, family and or special interest?

Sounds to me like you're a dirty capitalist!! How dare you profit off your work and or talent for money and use said money to fund your own private interest! You evil bast*rd, you almost got away with it didn't you?

Ugh....

And they way some of you talk about how wonderful and free everything in nature is. Makes me think when you go outside your seeing this.



Capitalism is by no means a perfect system, theres always gonna be some a** to exploit it, just like with every system. Though if we got rid of the socialist welfare on corporations such as the "To big to fail" policy and corporate welfare. Created an environment that was set up to ensure a healthy competition and protection form fraud, then hey were half-way there to a better and freer society.

Free from dependency of others and free from the exploitation of others.

See throwing out some solutions here.

I have no wish to live a pre historic lifestyle, the conversation going on is interesting but this following story is a prime example how you have no rights or no freedom.

Administrators at a hospital in Searcy say you can't light up and work for them. Effective October 1, the White County Medical Center will not hire people who smoke or use tobacco products. Current employees will be grandfathered in under the new policy.

Your employers have the rights, you can do nothing but to conform to there whims.

This change is in an effort for all employees to adopt a more healthy lifestyle. Not only is tobacco products not allowed, but cafeteria menu items are also changing.

Tobacco is a legal product, and these types of policies infringe on the rights of the workers IMO. Is it the role of the employer to dictate what you eat or put into your body even if its not good for you?

The hospital already conducts random drug testing on their associates. After October 1, a nicotine screening will be added. So if a new hire uses tobacco in the privacy of their own home or is using a patch or gum to kick the habit and tests positively, Feltrop says they will lose their job. "They will be terminated. After that date, the policy states they will be terminated from the hospital. We will no longer hire smoking associates."

You must piss in a cup to deem yourself worthy and to prove your innocence to work here and most jobs are the same way. I assume if they could test for big macs and coke they would and they would fire you for using unhealthy products.

Behavior conditioning conducted by private corporations should be unconstitutional. Why do they have the rights to do this?

Hospital will not hire those who use tobacco

Originally posted by LDragonFire

Administrators at a hospital in Searcy say you can't light up and work for them. Effective October 1, the White County Medical Center will not hire people who smoke or use tobacco products. Current employees will be grandfathered in under the new policy.

Not sure why you equate that with not "being free". Your free to quit and look for a new job. While i agree that it does sound a bit draconian, it IS a hospital and the last thing sick people want to deal with is a doctor or nurse who reek of harmful tobacco. The employee does not always dictate to his or her employer the conditions of their employment. It usually is the opposite, with the employer dictating to the employee conditions for their employment.

Originally posted by LDragonFire
Your employers have the rights, you can do nothing but to conform to there whims.

Hasnt this always been the way? Up until the 20th century, the employer held ALL the power, but that has changed somewhat with the advent of unions. Not sure why you think the employee should dictate terms. When i have went to job interviews and i am asked what salary im expecting, if my prospective employer does not meet my expectations, i move on.

Originally posted by LDragonFire
Tobacco is a legal product, and these types of policies infringe on the rights of the workers IMO. Is it the role of the employer to dictate what you eat or put into your body even if its not good for you?

If it had no bearing on the workplace whatsoever i could agree. But smokers stink. I dont think patients need the added stress. An employee at my workplace came from eastern europe and never wore deodorant. His job was to drive customers to their workplace. After many complains, the manager was forced to tell him to wear it. Next day he did and the complaints stopped. I do not see that as being unreasonable at all. We are providing a service to a customer. If they do not like the service, they will stop patronizing our shop.

Originally posted by LDragonFire

The hospital already conducts random drug testing on their associates. After October 1, a nicotine screening will be added. So if a new hire uses tobacco in the privacy of their own home or is using a patch or gum to kick the habit and tests positively, Feltrop says they will lose their job. "They will be terminated. After that date, the policy states they will be terminated from the hospital. We will no longer hire smoking associates."

This part i do have a problem with, and im sure it will be overturned in a court of law. Im going to follow this and see where it leads. It is unconstitutional for an employer to dictate your actions when your in the comfort of your own home.

Originally posted by LDragonFire
Behavior conditioning conducted by private corporations should be unconstitutional. Why do they have the rights to do this?

Not sure why your specifically singling out corporations. Many non-corporate businesses do this as well.