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Obama hasn't filed "Jobs Act," Republican files his own! What happened to "pass this now?"

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posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 02:33 AM
When Obama made his address to a joint session of Congress last Thursday, he demanded that Congressional Republicans "pass this bill now" and to "pass this right away."

After waving around the 150+page "bill" in the Rose Garden, and making the same exhortations, followed by trips to swing states on his "jobs bill" campaign tour, he had yet to file the Bill to be passed or even considered!

Rep. Louis Gohmert, (R - Tex.) looked to see who had sponsoired the Bill. When no one had done so by Wednesday, he filed his own!

Texas Representative Louie Gohmert is a genius. He’s absconded with the name of Obama’s jobs bill — the American Jobs Act of 2011 –and used it for his own tax-cutting bill.

How can Gohmert do this? Because Obama is either incompetent or cynical.

Here is the thing, either Obama was never serious about this so-called jobs bill in the first place and never intended to submit it, or he is one of the most inept politicians in presidential history.
If Obama were an effective president Rep. Gohmert would never have been able to appropriate Obama’s bill name for his own. If Obama was effective he’d have crafted his jobs bill, delivered his speech that night, and lined up at least one Democrat, if not the whole Democrat Party, to introduce his bill the very next morning after the speech.

But Obama did no such thing. Not only was there no bill when he delivered the speech, even this many days after the speech the bill has never been introduced in the House of Representatives where such bills might begin the legislative process.
That means that there was no bill called the “American Jobs Act of 2011″ in the House, so Rep. Gohmert was under no compulsion not to use it as a name for his own bill.

Incompetence: Obama Even Loses the Name of His Jobs Bill


How do you reconcile Obama and Valerie Jarrett's demands for passage of the Bill with little or no time for consideration and scoring, with the fact that it has yet to even be submitted?

Gohmert's bill would eliminate the Alternative Minimum Tax and the (world's highest) 35% Corporate Income Tax as boosts to business formation and expansion, and to increase individuals' incomes.

President Obama exhorted Congress to pass his latest legislation, the “American Jobs Act,” “right now” last Thursday night in a joint session of Congress. Republican members were quick to point out there was, at that time, no legislation to pass.

Rep. Louis Gohmert (R-TX) has gone a step further than mere talking points, snagging the name “American Jobs Act” for his own bill in the House. Gohmert named his bill Wednesday morning, according to his office, before any Democratic representative had introduced Obama’s bill for him.

“After waiting to see what the President would actually put into legislative language, and then waiting to see if anybody would actually introduce the President’s bill in the House, today I took the initiative and introduced the ‘American Jobs Act of 2011,’” Gohmert said in a statement Wednesday afternoon.

The bill would “amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal the corporate income tax.”Gohmert touted his two-page bill as a simple alternative to Obama’s 155-page legislation and ends the press release cheekily, “If we really want to create jobs and grow the economy, we must pass ‘The American Jobs Act’ now.”

Too slow: Republican Congressman snags ‘American Jobs Act’ before Obama

At some point, you have to ask yourself if Obama is serious, or seriously deluded. How can he insist on a Special Session, arrange for a Rose Garden press conference, and take off on a cross-country tour in support of a "Bill" he had yet to introduce; yet proclaim its importance to be so great that it "must be passed now?"

It's not as if Rep. Gohmert rushed in to steal the limelight from Obama or his Bill. He appears serious as presenting a pro-jobs alternative.

"My bill is not the president's bill, it's a real job creator," Gohmert told The Hill, shortly after filing his two-page alternative to the president's plan, under the same title.
Gohmert said that he read the president's 155-page jobs plan, when it was emailed to lawmakers on Monday afternoon.
Calling the president's plan a "disaster," Gohmert said that he checked to see "who filed the 'American Jobs Act' for the president, here in the House, since we had to do it 'now, right away," but discovered that the plan had not been officially introduced in the House.
So, at 1:20pm Gohmert filed his own version of a jobs bill, under the title included on the president's legislation distributed to members of Congress two-days prior

GOP rep. introduces alternative American Jobs Act

OK, Obama supporters; please explain why, after 1 week of continuous pleading for immediate passage, Obama still had not decided to file his Bill.

When you do that, you might want to explain how Congress can follow similar exhortations for "immediate" passage of 3 complete free-trade agreements that Obama has yet to send to either House?

Deny ignorance

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posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 03:10 AM
Harry Reid submitted the bill in the senate, S.1549 American Jobs Act of 2011 submitted September 13, 2011.

posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 03:46 AM
Yeah, just what we need, lower taxes for corporation on the promise that maybe they’ll create new jobs and increase wages. Like that’s been working so far.

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posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 06:12 AM

Originally posted by defcon5
Yeah, just what we need, lower taxes for corporation on the promise that maybe they’ll create new jobs and increase wages. Like that’s been working so far.

Taxes lowered on businesses may result in job creation.
Taxes raised on businesses won't result in job creation.

I'll take the former, thanks.


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posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 06:33 AM
reply to post by jdub297

After waving around the 150+page "bill" in the Rose Garden,

There's the problem..
They haven't finished writing the other 1000 pages that screw Joe Public...

posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 06:53 AM

Originally posted by links234
Harry Reid submitted the bill in the senate, S.1549 American Jobs Act of 2011 submitted September 13, 2011.

Yup. I do believe it has to be presented to the House, though. Not the senate.

posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 07:34 AM
reply to post by The Old American

Think about this for a second.
Right now something like 80% of the wealth is held by 1% of the population, and out of that something like 70% is in the hands of .1%. That means there is only 20% maximum left for everyone else to circulate through the economy. THEN to make matters worse, these same greed-ridden folks want to make a profits every year taking even more of that 20% away. So what happens to our capitalistic society when the balance is 100%/0%? Hm…?
Is that still capitalism or is it a new monarchy?

The only reason this has not happened so far is because the Fed keeps printing new money into circulation, driving down the value of the remaining percent of the flowing cash. Right?

Now normally, that would cause the cost of living to drop, but because these same greedy corporations, and their elitist masters, have sent all the production overseas, NOTHING is dropping in price. The American dollar has no buying power outside this country right now, and as every thing is made outside this country, the cost is going UP instead of DOWN.

So you would think that at least they would have the good common sense to increase the amount they are paying out for salaries in this country to adjust for the increase in the cost of living, right? Nope! Not these guys, they are cutting benefits, laying off people, and either cutting salaries or refusing to even give people cost of living raises because they are not making enough profit, while at the same time posting record profits, and giving their owners record level bonuses.

Yeah… That’s a sustainable system.

No one should be able to accumulate enough power in this country to influence its government, its economy, or its stock market. I believe that is part of why we have anti-monopoly legislation to prevent anyone from getting too much power and influence over things like the markets, yet no one is enforcing any of it.

What's going on right now is nothing short of the wholesale looting of countries and their populations, then leaving their governments holding the bag. Meanwhile they distract us every four years with selecting whatever new scapegoat we want to take the blame for it. Its all smoke and mirrors to deflect the blame away from the real culprits.

Folks on this site go on and on about the “New World Order”, the “Bilderbergers”, the “Trilateral Commission”, the “Masons”, the “Illuminati”, etc… with this fear that these groups will make slaves out of them and institute this one world feudal system. Well, its happening right now, even though it may not be any of those groups per say, its still the elite and their greed that are making their final push to rule the world.

Sure give ‘em another tax break, that will fix things and provide jobs… right…

posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 07:36 AM
The Democrats are corporate whores but the Republicans get the winning medal for taking the most funds from them.

No political party in this nation knows right now how to solve the nations unemployment problems it doesn't take a genius to read between the lines of the political party bickering of pre elections year

The bozos in the White house can redact anything they want and make it as pretty as they want but again none of them knows how to fix the problems in the nation

Because they all been pay off by big interest.

posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 07:45 AM
reply to post by marg6043

Oh, they know how to fix it, but they won’t take the steps necessary to do so.
After all, it’s the money from those corporations and the elite that bought them into office, so they are only going to vote on their behalf, certainly not on the behalf of the rest of us serfs.

They are nothing more then scapegoats to put on a good show for the rest of us to argue over, and keep us distracted, while they vote to unlock the doors of the treasury to be looted by their rich buddies that they owe favors back to.

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posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 07:57 AM
reply to post by defcon5

When a corporation is moving product or services the taxes "they" are forced to pay crank the price up on the people to cover. If you taxed business 100% that effects the people buying the service, the corporation still pays 0% effectively. WE have to pay more! Then less is sold, businesses go bankrupt, people are laid off, the economy crashes further and the gov't brings in LESS.

The words, "Liberal" and, "Economist" should never be uttered together. Usually when somebody is wrong about everything they get fired...

posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 07:58 AM
reply to post by defcon5

Dear if the nations just, took a step back and see what we got in the white house and what their political whores are doing to the nation it would be a insurrection right now, but sadly propaganda is very much a political tool to keep the populace oblivious of the corruption in government. Having the people bickering and fighting for political parties is the agenda.

While you say that our politics know how to fix the nation but they wound due to big interest, I say that they don't because right now you don't have to use your brain in government to get a position of power as long as you sell yourself to big interest..

We got morons of big interest pay rolls in the white house.

posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 07:59 AM
He had to take a vacation first, then pass the bill.

"If you love me, let me take a vacation first before I have to sign anything."

posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 08:06 AM
reply to post by TreadUpon

Normally, when the cost of living gets too far above what the people are making, then the corporations have to drop their prices to increase their sales. That equalizes the markets and rebalances the system.

In this instance, because of their greed, influence over the markets and lawmakers, and their off-shoring of production, the market is not equalizing as it should. If we keep going along this path, the system is going to cash anyway.

By taxing them, the government can at least ease up on the middle classes taxes, and hopefully that will put more money flowing back into the system as the middle class does not have the assets to hoard money like the elites. Even if the elites increase the cost of services to cover the taxes. More money is flowing through the middle classes hands.
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posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 08:14 AM
reply to post by defcon5

I agree, but right now what it was call the middle class once the bread and butter of this nation economy, is now falling more and more into the working poor, the working poor is those that while still work need so kind of government assistance.

The rich do not pay enough taxes and now we got a growing working poor.

How does the working poor get to buy stuff, well once again like before 2008, credit cards are back again to fill the void.

Now the government is counting on the last few weather disasters to boost GDP so it looks good, also will boost job numbers at least temporarily.

Every time the government allocates billions to disasters and to stimulate the economy it brings a false boost to GDP numbers, but the money is still a tax payer burden because it will fall on tax payers backs.

posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 08:16 AM
reply to post by jdub297

I would suspect that he has his green eyeshade folks looking over some of the financial statements of these bogus "green jobs" firms he is so high on who were about to receive large amounts of money in the bill that are essentially shell companies playing games with their balance sheets. Now generally that would not take an inordinant amount of time, since these firms have independant auditors, like Soylendra had PWC who write objective audits that you could read in about a half an hour (yes, the same reports that were available on Solyendra that indicated that it was a poorly run firm and likely to go under), but the government does nothing quickly (or competently).

A couple more solyendras would not be good for the administration at the moment.

posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 08:30 AM
reply to post by dolphinfan

The problem with "Green initiatives" while look good on paper it never get the necessary support from the population to thrive, because initial cost are always too high, specially with the way the economy is now.

Still only a strong bill forcing people to turn into Green energy sources will push the companies to produce, right now is not enough supply and demand for it.

plus I will hate to be forced into anything by government.

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posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 08:33 AM

Originally posted by marg6043
the working poor is those that while still work need so kind of government assistance.

This is how the corporations are double sticking it to the US public. They don’t want to pay any taxes to begin with, and now they make it so social services (US taxes paid by the middle class) provide their companies benefit packages so they can maximize their profits.

These guy are following the system that Wal-Mart, and the supposedly “Christian” Walton Family started. I don’t have time to look up the exact numbers ATM, but on top of the tax breaks that they get for each Wal-Mart they operate, they cost the US taxpayer somewhere in the area $400K/year in social services cost.

posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 08:40 AM
reply to post by defcon5

Oh, trust me I am aware of how the rich is getting off in America at the expenses of the working class, but what can you do when they are the ones running the government and their lobbyist are the ones redacting bills and paying off politicians.

While we get to see big bills in congress by the media is thousands of bill that goes behind close doors that only benefits corporate America.

Its just unbelievable, bills that most Americans, tax payer and voters doesn't even have a clue are been passed to screw the working class more.

I am so disappointed on the government we have is not funny they are so corrupted that if voters and tax payer knew the extent of the corruption they would be in the streets asking for blood

check this site when you have the time, it probably will make you as angry as it has make me.

The Center for Media and Democracy EXPOSED these bills

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posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 08:41 AM
reply to post by defcon5

I have thought about that, and my post still stands. Since the government can't legally force the hand of business, they have to give businesses a reason to create jobs. At least if the government gives them a break, there is a chance they'll create them. But laying more burden on them is not going to make them want to help anyone.


posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 08:47 AM
reply to post by jdub297

oh this is too rich Brilliant move!

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