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This Is Who Is Behind This Economic Meltdown

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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 08:59 PM
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Here something to consider. All nations related to a monarchy (British, Belgian, Danish, Norwegian, Sweden, Luxembourg) are all AAA status. This includes a good portion of the British Common Wealth (Canada and Australia). France, Germany, Slovenia and Switzerland are also AAA, but with recent news of France being downgraded validates my gut feeling from months ago when the US was downgraded. Old monarchies are behind this economic downturn. They're seizing power back using our economic system. Think about it. If the Rothschild bankers control the world through the economic system (central and global banks), who were their biggest clients hundreds of years ago? Who invested in them and allowed them to flourish? Who did the Rothschilds report to? European monarchies. The world banks are fundamentally tied to old monarchies. If my theory is correct, than Slovenia will be next followed by Germany. Switzerland will be the last non-monarch nation to be downgraded only because this nation holds the banks that hold much of the world's money including those of monarchs. Spain is also a monarch but has been a mortal enemy of northern European monarchs for centuries.

Take a look at this picture:



This theory doesn't dismiss the possibility these nations are AAA because they keep their finances in check, but given what we know about how the true global economy works (deliberate scarcity and imposing debt on nations), it is not a far cry to say that these nations/monarchies directly or indirectly caused this economic meltdown.
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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 10:22 PM
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OR .... maybe, just maybe, nations that are Monarchies are better managed?

Perhaps it's a more stable form of government?



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
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OR .... maybe, just maybe, nations that are Monarchies are better managed?

Perhaps it's a more stable form of government?


Of course that's a definite possibility that the nations (through government) are better managed, but don't forget monarchies are one step away from dictatorships which are undoubtedly more efficient. Democracy inherently takes time (time to debate, mobilize a vote and count it). For example in the Common Wealth countries of the British monarchy, the queen's representative and the queen herself, have the power to dismiss government (remove it) where in the meantime she can act as head of state with sole executive authority and has the ability to declare war at her sole discretion. Those are powerful abilities. If she so decides, she can dismiss democratic government continuously and declare war on anyone.

Personally I never understood monarchies. To me they were the end product of pure capitalism and war hundreds and thousands or years ago. You can even see it now. Multi-billion dollar corporations imposing their rule legally and illegally (ethics only gets in the way of profit and greed) in order to gain more power. The wealthy that rule those corporations, the top share holders, are soo wealthy that they appear to live on a different planet from the rest of us. For all intents and purposes they are royalty. Now imagine if the economy really goes to hell and only the wealthy have any money (or food) to spare. We'll all be "subject" to their rule in order to survive. Remember they still control the military by mere act of declaring war.

What is obvious is the map. The last standing AAA nations are mainly European monarchies. That cannot be easily dismissed.
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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 11:32 PM
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Firstly these countries are mostly CONSTITUTIONAL MONARCHIES>>>>>this means they are not nessessaarily under the comtrol f royalty per se.
There is an upper house of lords etc though which are like appointed royalty positions.
In all fairness, the british irish, Italian, Spanish, Portugese economies are not solid.
What makes you think they wont be downgraded when the time comes?



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by stirling
Firstly these countries are mostly CONSTITUTIONAL MONARCHIES>>>>>this means they are not nessessaarily under the comtrol f royalty per se.
There is an upper house of lords etc though which are like appointed royalty positions.
In all fairness, the british irish, Italian, Spanish, Portugese economies are not solid.
What makes you think they wont be downgraded when the time comes?


Perhaps I'm just stressing a point here. Constitutional monarchies are still monarchies with powers to dissolve government and replace it irrespective of the house of lords or the senate (depending the country). The queen is the executive head of state for British countries with some impressive powers that she can yield at her discretion. I doubt this will ever be the case, but who knows.

But that's not my point. My point is old monarchy money is perhaps at play here as the last remaining AAA countries are European monarchies. Again it's an interesting pattern which started with the banking system crashing around the world which most would agree are connected to the Rothschild family who in my opinion report to the monarchies of Europe.



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 01:28 AM
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A couple of quick points:

I live in Canada, and we are AAA for several reasons. First,, we are the real Saudi Arabia, with a huge proportion of the world accessible remaining oil, and secondly, because we have an ultra conservative banking establishment and rules.

Secondly, the UK is a financial basket case waiting to fall apart.



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 05:25 AM
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The queen can dissolve the British government at will? Can she by law reinstate the full powers of her monarchy?
I think google and I are going to have a visit about this. I always thought she was just a figurehead and nothing more.



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 05:31 AM
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what does your picture illustrate? what do the colors mean?



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 06:55 PM
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It's the Standards & Poor (S&P) financial credit rating by color.

Green - AAA
Turquoise - AA Lighter blue - A
Darker blue - BBB
Purple - BB
Red - B
Grey - not rated

Stock markets follow the S&P ratings so downgrading a nation's credit status hits the markets hard. Sometimes it's best to live in the illusion that all is well and then work to make it better than to downgrade and crumble the already weak economy. Illusions are all over the place and only when it serves the interest of someone is the truth presented. This is all leading to a one world economy and dollar. Hopefully in the process all debt is forgiven, but I don't see that serving the interesting of the power hungry rich.
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posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 07:14 PM
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There are two power types held by the monarchs, the Queen, and her non-democratically appointed governors. These are:

Prerogative Powers - mysterious and ill controlled by the democratic government. The Prime Minister can "advise" the Queen but not stop her.

Reserve Powers - better defined in constitutional documents, but still open to the Queen's discretion and her other powers.

A lawyer would see things here for concern.



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by Melyanna
A couple of quick points:

I live in Canada, and we are AAA for several reasons. First,, we are the real Saudi Arabia, with a huge proportion of the world accessible remaining oil, and secondly, because we have an ultra conservative banking establishment and rules.

Secondly, the UK is a financial basket case waiting to fall apart.



True on all accounts, but my bet is that the UK will not fall before Germany and Slovenia. Besides, if the UK does crumble, it is constitutionally at the discretion of the monarch to ask her Common Wealth nations, Canada and Australia to help. What you fail to see is that Canada and Australia are part of the UK through the monarchy. It's like Alaska. Not attached but still part of the whole.

Ultra conservative establishment takes care of the little guy in Canada because they think "Canadian" which is innately socialist. Over the years, US mentality of profit at all cost, free markets and screw the little guy, has been seeping into Canada's culture and eroding what makes it special. We see what that type of mentality has done to the US. People in the US are 95% of time thinking of how to beat someone else in business or how to squeeze more out of customers and employees. This was not the case in Canada until recently. It's destructive way to think, but people in the US believe that no regulation and absolute free markets are best. I disagree. Anything that limits participation I think is bad (like unnecessary licensing and permits), but we have to protect ourselves against ourselves and that comes through regulation. You see, in a free market ethics go out the window because all it takes is one guy to be less ethical to increase profit (still legally) forcing competition to compete in a similar fashion and the end product of that is that it all goes to hell.

People confuse democracy with capitalism. They think the two are tied together. They're not. Democarcy can exist and be made better without capitalism. Capitalism is just a form of economy and not the only one, or better stated, it's got varying degrees.
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posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 02:22 AM
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You do realize, that Spain's monarchs attend Bilderberg meetings, yes?



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 02:27 AM
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Originally posted by Melyanna
A couple of quick points:

I live in Canada, and we are AAA for several reasons. First,, we are the real Saudi Arabia, with a huge proportion of the world accessible remaining oil, and secondly, because we have an ultra conservative banking establishment and rules.

Secondly, the UK is a financial basket case waiting to fall apart.



YOu know what happened to California's oil fields in the 60s and 70s? They were shut down because it was cheaper to import Mideast oil. In a global economic collapse, oil prices will tank. And the same will happen to you.

The US is a bigger basket case. And Canada is simply the world's largest remora fish.



posted on Sep, 17 2011 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by eldard
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You do realize, that Spain's monarchs attend Bilderberg meetings, yes?


Yes, but that doesn't mean anything. Spain has been a moral enemy of northern monarchs for centuries.



posted on Sep, 17 2011 @ 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by CantSay
Yes, but that doesn't mean anything. Spain has been a moral enemy of northern monarchs for centuries.


You really should stop talking out of your ass.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 04:08 AM
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Originally posted by eldard

Originally posted by CantSay
Yes, but that doesn't mean anything. Spain has been a moral enemy of northern monarchs for centuries.


You really should stop talking out of your ass.


Like your one to talk? Very plausible theory the OP has. I always knew the british where the center of all evil on this planet.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 04:32 AM
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Originally posted by korathin
Like your one to talk? Very plausible theory the OP has. I always knew the british where the center of all evil on this planet.


And that's all s/he's got. A theory.



posted on Sep, 18 2011 @ 04:46 AM
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Limey hating must be a genetic imperative in some parts of the world, especially in those parts of the world that speak the limey language, 'English'.



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by eldard

Originally posted by korathin
Like your one to talk? Very plausible theory the OP has. I always knew the british where the center of all evil on this planet.


And that's all s/he's got. A theory.


Completely true it is only a theory based on an interesting pattern. We'll see how it turns out.



posted on Sep, 19 2011 @ 01:25 AM
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Originally posted by eldard

Originally posted by CantSay
Yes, but that doesn't mean anything. Spain has been a moral enemy of northern monarchs for centuries.


You really should stop talking out of your ass.


I'm of European descent and own land in Europe. I also know world history. Spain has always competed with England in colonizing and trading. Examples, North America is primarily English except for Mexico which is Spanish. Canada's Quebec is a former French colony. Central American is Spanish. South America is also Spanish except for Brazil which is 80% Portuguese and 20% Danish (officially speak Portuguese). A good 70% of the west is Spanish. They were good competitors which I imagine made the English upset. And no I am not Spanish.
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