Mainstream Media Going Crazy Over Ron Paul's Aide Dying With 400k Worth of Medical Bills - Pathetic

There's even more than that
It's all over the media and the internet

It's insane, what a disgusting low blow
How many people under this current system is dying?

What should we force EVERYONE to pay?
That could only mean one thing, that money grows on trees

While govt. drives up the cost of health care there's no end to the money supply to cover EVERYONE
Number one they drive up the cost of healthcare by being involved and the FED causes inflation which devalues your dollar to pay for these fees. Another thing that Ron Paul is completely against.

Seriously, how many people under this current system is dying?
It's not working
What are you just going to let them DIE?????????
See I can do that too
You are just going to let them die????
See I did it again!

It's sad what the media has become
It's sad that Snyder had to die, but is it moral to force the entire country to pay for that 400k?

What is wrong with the level of intelligence of the human race?

Its not the man who HAS the most when he dies who wins.

But the man who owes the most.

loaded question on the night , me thinks!

Ron Paul actually sticks to his platform, unlike most politicians. But the real story is how his friend couldn't afford health insurance because of a pre-existing condition. The people who need insurance the most can't afford it. That's a shame.

reply to post by ModernAcademia

i was wondering when a story like this would happen.
what a joke, they cant complain about medical bills when they support the health care system that america has in place

Originally posted by TreesusChrist
Ron Paul actually sticks to his platform, unlike most politicians. But the real story is how his friend couldn't afford health insurance because of a pre-existing condition. The people who need insurance the most can't afford it. That's a shame.

This is true
and the problem is govt. drives up costs and creates inflation

My father has dialysis, without Govt. aid he wouldn't be with me anymore
However if it wasn't for govt. aid he would have had preventive care instead of waiting way too long for a kidney specialist.

Disgusting!

The problem is not care its insurance and cost of it.

We give care to all, what we argue is who pays. The cost must come down..or no one will be able to. 440k for Pneumonia treatment is absolutely outrageous. There was a friend of mine who was 21 when he died of Pneumonia after drinking the water from Mexico. A no no...

It was not from lack of insurance or care it was from the progressiveness and rabidness of the illness. This is a horrific attack against Paul. I would have punched that reporter for bringing up a fallen comrade.

The problem here is not some (made up) guy dying because he didn't have health insurance. It's that health insurance this guy wanted is not the least bit affordable for over half of Americans. Government "oversight" has driven up the cost of health care to such extremes that even with employer-shared health care costs, it's over the top for your average person.

Even with the extant insane regulations, insurance companies vary widely in price because they are allowed to be competitive. If the government got out of it, and if people committing insurance fraud were properly executed by dipping them in molten lead, insurance costs would go down. Maybe not to the extent that everyone could afford it, but at the very least some that can't afford it now would be able to.

/TOA

Originally posted by Old77
The problem is not care its insurance and cost of it.

We give care to all, what we argue is who pays. The cost must come down..or no one will be able to. 440k for Pneumonia treatment is absolutely outrageous. There was a friend of mine who was 21 when he died of Pneumonia after drinking the water from Mexico. A no no...

It was not from lack of insurance or care it was from the progressiveness and rabidness of the illness. This is a horrific attack against Paul. I would have punched that reporter for bringing up a fallen comrade.

I know the feeling brother, my sister died last year of pneumonia after a 5 day illness, she was only 32 and left behind 2 kids aged 4 and 11 at the time. Its a nasty illness that strikes quick and only has one goal.

400k of medical bills, that's what... ONE DAY at the hospital?

How dare the doctors and hospitals don't get paid!

Seriously MSM, you are a freaking joke. The problem is not that Ron Paul's aide died with 400k worth of medical bills, the problem is that the medical industry and the pharma industry is crooked and the politicians in Washington DC have written the laws so it is that way.

How come one pill costs 2$ in Canada and everywhere in Europe... and the same pill costs 25$ in the US?

How come people get charged 15k$ for a few hours at the ER? The insurance and the big hospitals are in it together.

This surely hits home. My mother's house has a lien on it because she had life saving surgery and didn't have health insurance. All her assets in the form of savings and checking accounts had to be surrendered. The cost of the surgery was 700,000 dollars!!! The house and here financial assets don't even come close to covering that amount.

This is a perfect example of our wonderful healthcare system in America. Don't get sick or have life saving surgery, or you may lose everything you have and be indebted to the hospital the rest of your life!

We have two hospitals in our city. We just found out that one of the hospitals that has been taken over by a larger city hospital, has announced it 2013 they will no longer accept Highmark Blue Cross Blue Shied. All the major corporations in our city have healthcare benefits through Highmark Blue Cross Blue Shield!

So all these people who hold this healthcare insurance can no longer keep their affiliated family doctors or use this hospital. People in this country who fight against government healthcare have never been put in a position where they have lost their healthcare benefits, or their benefits are inadequate to cover a life saving procedure. Yet hospitals can drop your healthcare provider, so what are people to do? Curl up and die?

The American Health Care system in this country is far from caring for their citizens. Our country can draft our sons and daughters to give their life for their country, yet they can't provide a basic human right of healthcare to their citizens?

It's absolutely deplorable! Work your whole life and lose everything you work hard for. More and more people are losing their healthcare benefits due to job losses.

America is a leader of human rights? Not when it comes to healthcare.

I support Ron Paul on a lot of issues, but his issue on healthcare just doesn't cut it for me.

The basic gyst of the story is that Ron Paul says that poor people and the uninsurable are not going to die off because churches and other members of the community will pick up the slack in those cases where somebody has large medical bills they cannot afford to pay off. Ron Paul's aid died with $400k in medical bills, and Ron Paul and the aid's friends were only able to raise about $50,000.

Ron Paul's aid is lucky in that he is connected to well-heeled people like Ron Paul. Many uninsured people are not so well connected. If Ron Paul's aid could only come up with $50,000, then many uninsured will come up with far less.

The problems with the medical system are complex, and cannot be distilled to a bumper sticker slogan. The fact that medical care is a for profit industry means that medical care providers will make decisions that make great business sense, but are morally repugnant.

For a guy that stands "no chance of winning", they sure like to run a lot of hit pieces, and gotcha journalism.
MSM is a sewer.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


$400,000 is an unbelievable amount for healthcare, but when so many businesses benefit from healthcare personally, it's no wonder. It wasn't as if this guy didn't bother to get healthcare insurance either, it was just incredibly difficult given his pre-existing conditions. This really goes back to the idea that churches and charities will assist folks in these situations, against reality this point doesn't stand.

And regarding those folks insisting that government are the core reasons to these costs, how so? And how is pulling out all the stops for healthcare corporations going to bring those prices down? If a private healthcare firm is making a considerable amount of profit from drugs or medical procedures, and the government decides to cut more taxes, cut any remaining regulations and costs, where does this assumption come up that costs will go down? If these private businesses are making a killing, the corporations, if their core goals are to maximize profits, why would they bring it down? Trust the medical insurers to all have compassion right? We talk about corruption in government, and then we forget so quickly that government consists of many corrupted individuals, no different to corporations.

As for the issue the OP takes with the media coverage (as usual), Ron Paul is going to get criticized by the media for all sorts of things just like all the other presidential candidates and presidents. I get it, ron paul supporters want him to be shielded from any criticism, but I'm sorry, it comes with the position of running for president. As well, if you intend to dish out criticism, political attacks, you gotta be prepared to take them as well.

This can be a good opportunity for Ron Paul though folks, he can continue to market and clarify with the voters regarding his positions. I don't think it will help him any further , but hey! Nobody is stopping him from making his case to the voters.

Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
The basic gyst of the story is that Ron Paul says that poor people and the uninsurable are not going to die off because churches and other members of the community will pick up the slack in those cases where somebody has large medical bills they cannot afford to pay off. Ron Paul's aid died with $400k in medical bills, and Ron Paul and the aid's friends were only able to raise about $50,000.

Instead of saying that why didn't you reply to my comments?

How many people die today under our current system
ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop pretending as if what you have now is unicorns and rainbows

Originally posted by Southern Guardian
As for the issue the OP takes with the media coverage (as usual), Ron Paul is going to get criticized by the media for all sorts of things just like all the other presidential candidates and presidents. I get it, ron paul supporters want him to be shielded from any criticism, but I'm sorry, it comes with the position of running for president. As well, if you intend to dish out criticism, political attacks, you gotta be prepared to take them as well.

You want to give criticism go ahead
I'm ready!

Wha'chu got?

I am putting off surgery right now because of this situation, I actually had a nurse in the ER tell me 80% of you uninsured don't pay your bills,

No $hit Sherlock, I aint got hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Instead of saying that why didn't you reply to my comments?

How many people die today under our current system
ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!s

Maybe he figures you can google it yourself like the other grown-ups?

Maybe it seems like a rhetorical question not worth answering?

reply to post by Southern Guardian



S.G

The government has very little to do with cost as you have said.

If anyone would sit down and think for several minutes they might realize;

Insurance policy holders, are paying a middleman (insurance), to pay for them in the
the event of medical problems, the problem is the middlemen are massive, they
require a huge precent of the money they "earn" to operate.

It is a FACT that insurance companies earn more and grow when they charge the customers more too,
it is not magic or even algebra.

The cost is in the middlemen folks

Aren't any of you bone tired spewing forth the prescribed explanations?


Turn on your brains, drop the manure folks!

Hospitals, doctors have been ripping Americans off pretty bad.


Look at the Nuvasive "XLIF" spine surgery. Go into your side, stretch it open....yank out your spine disc....hammer in a plastic spacer....close it up.


Surgeon's were cranking patients out left and right and pocketing millions annually.

Ooops.....turns out they crippled everyone because they forgot to bolt their vertebrae together....sorrryy.....not really. They made mega quick money.

Do you wonder why Nuvasive/their stock has been falling?.......evil deeds and blood money......gigs up.