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Topic started on 24-8-2004 @ 01:58 PM by Firebase
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A Vietnam vet group took a trip to Communist Hanoi to investigate a report that John Kerry was in the "Hanoi Hall of Fame." Yes, there is a
museum in Hanoi with a section dedicated to foreign activists who help defeat the United States Military in Vietnam. Of course, you would expect Jane
Fonda's picture to be there. But, alas, there is John Kerry's picture shaking the hand of a communist official.
KERRY'S PICTURE FEATURED IN VIETNAMS COMMUNIST HERO'S HALL OF FAME
May 31, 2004 - Dr. Jerry Corsi and Jeff Epstein of Vietnam Vets for the Truth report that John Kerry's photograph is featured in the War Protestors
Hall of the War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City -- a clear indication of the value the Vietnamese communists place on Kerry's support of their
efforts during the Vietnam War. The photograph was received in response to a general request last week for information documenting Kerry's
activities on behalf of the enemy.
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Photograph of John Kerry meeting with Comrade Do Muoi, General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, in Vietnam. Photo displayed in the War
Remnants Museum (formerly the “War Crimes Museum”) in Saigon.
(see web link below) The June 2, 2003 edition of the “Viet Nam News” is held beside the Kerry photograph to confirm the date the photo was taken.
English-language placard below the photograph reads: “Mr. Do Muoi, Secretary General of the Vietnam Communist Party met with Congressmen and Veterans
Delegation in Vietnam (July 15-18, 1993).
Who's side is this guy on anyway, I was in Vietnam and I don't think there is a picture of me hanging anywhere over there, if it is it would still
be in the “War Crimes Museum” if you go by what Kerry told the Senate after he came home from the Vietnam war. hooah
For more information regarding this photo click this link:
www.tinyvital.com...
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 02:02 PM by ThePrankMonkey
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and??? the point? communists use every bit of propaganda they can to furtrher their cause? that sounds vaguely familar....where have i seen such
strageties??? thats right! in US politics! i knew i saw that somewhere.
just like north korea keeps the small US ship they captured during the korean war as propaganda to further their cause. no different here!\
i dont like kerry but lets not try to make connections to things where there are none.
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 02:06 PM by LadyV
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And this is important...how......
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 02:07 PM by mpeake
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Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey
and??? the point? communists use every bit of propaganda they can to furtrher their cause? that sounds vaguely familar....where have i seen such
strageties??? thats right! in US politics! i knew i saw that somewhere.
just like north korea keeps the small US ship they captured during the korean war as propaganda to further their cause. no different here!\
i dont like kerry but lets not try to make connections to things where there are none. 
It proves once and for all that Kerry is a communist dictator and he will lead our country down a path of death and destruction. Just like how Bush
is the grandson of a nazi and will employ his geonocide plans next term if elected. 
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 02:11 PM by ThePrankMonkey
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but i want an old fashion died in the wool facist like the duece! musolini rocked!
great, a nazi or a communist...should i die slow or should i die fast? hmmm decisions decisions! anyway....
kerry is no more of a communist than bush is a nazi or i am the dali lama.
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 02:22 PM by LadyV
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  right back at ya there sportie! This is unintelligent dribble and I think, or at least I hope, deep in there somewhere, you know that!
 at you!
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 02:30 PM by mpeake
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I guess my blinking sarcastic neon sign was turned off  Of course I don't beleive this garbage!
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 03:10 PM by Firebase
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What do you don't beleive? The garbage that Kerry keeps trying to sale to America, or the proof that he worked with the North Vietnam government to
help them win the war in Vietnam, or maybe that he caused great pain to the POWs still on the ground during the Vietnam war, or that maybe he wrote
off any live or MIAs still in Vietnam for money in the mid 1990s. Go call a family that still has someone MIA/POW from the Vietnam war and see if
they think it's garbage, or speak with a Nam vet that was in one of the POW camps, or just a comabt vet from Nam, maybe just go hang out at a local
bar and bring up the fact that you think Kerry was a real hero after the war, you know the senate thing... thats right go for it. hooah
ThePrankMonkey
LadyV
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 03:28 PM by mpeake
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I think you're comfusing me for a Kerry supporter there buddy...sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm NOT! I just think that this is grasping at
straws. He may have partaken in some messed up stuff in Nam, but where is your evidence that he worked with the North Vietnam government to help them
win the war in Vietnam?
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 03:34 PM by EastCoastKid
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Originally posted by Firebase
(see web link below) The June 2, 2003 edition of the “Viet Nam News” is held beside the Kerry photograph to confirm the date the photo was taken.
English-language placard below the photograph reads: “Mr. Do Muoi, Secretary General of the Vietnam Communist Party met with Congressmen and Veterans
Delegation in Vietnam (July 15-18, 1993).

1. The Vietnam war was OVER in 1993. Did someone forget to inform you of that?
2. He's with a VETERAN's DELEGATION. I suppose you conveniently blocked that little aspect out of your mind?
Ya'll are trying a little too hard to smear Kerry. Why don't we get down to the nitty gritty and discuss why GEORGE W. BUSH got away with
going AWOL and being a DESERTER when John Kerry VOLUNTEERED for hazardous combat duty.
Bushies can't handle talking about that. And rightly so. I'd be embarassed of him, too.
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 05:02 PM by Firebase
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Originally posted by mpeake
I think you're comfusing me for a Kerry supporter there buddy...sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm NOT! I just think that this is grasping at
straws. He may have partaken in some messed up stuff in Nam, but where is your evidence that he worked with the North Vietnam government to help them
win the war in Vietnam?
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Thats to easy brother...........evidence
The North Vietnamese general in charge of the military campaign that finally drove the U.S. out of South Vietnam in 1975 credited a group led by
Democratic presidential front-runner John Kerry with helping him achieve victory.
www.newsmax.com...
I could fill the forum with evidence but some people are starting to think like liberals and calling the facts "smearing".
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 05:13 PM by LadyV
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I do not have a very good view of people that bash because they are voting for the opposite party. I view these people as childish, small minded
humans that feel they can't win on merit or issues so they throw trash. I don't care if it's Bush or Kerry....this is ridiculous crap, it won't
change anyone's mind...so what is the point of this? Trying go build up points? Controversy? It can't be for information in order for people to
decide on voting because it won't do anything, no one will change their mind about whom ever is being bashed, doesn't change anyone's outlook...
This is just so laughable I couldn't even
believe I was reading it correctly the first time I saw it
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 05:35 PM by Byrd
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Let's see... as I hit the site, I see the link "Click Here To See Liberals Bashed" and other material indicating that liberals (in their opinion)
should be kept locked up somewhere and not allowed out to breed. Then I see a nice link to an anonymous photo with some Vietnamese writing on it.
It could be on the wall of someone's apartment for all we know.
In good photojournalism, you set up a piece with references so that people know it's real -- including real people (so they know it's current) and
location shots to prove that the object is where they say it is.
This is just a badly framed photo on some blue wall.
I'm sure that if it IS in a Communist hero museum that they also have pictures of President Bush (one or both of them) plus a number of other
American ambassadors and officials along with various commissions that tried to deal with the POW/MIA issues.
Heck, I could show the same kind of evidence and say that it was Bush in a KKK museum. In fact, you could come up with any number of supposedly
politcally embarrassing things.
The "Swift Boat Veterans" fiasco has showed how far some of these conservatives will go and how low they will stoop. They contradict their earlier
statements (willing, one supposes, to "lie" when it was a matter of official military record but leaping forward with the "truth" when the guy
they said was so competant suddenly turns out to be a gosh-darned More Liberal Than Bush poly-tician and a (horrors!) Democrat to boot instead of an
honest, Gawd-FhEARin' Republican like any honest man should be.
Yeah.
Right.
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 06:49 PM by koji_K
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Originally posted by Firebase
Originally posted by mpeake
I think you're comfusing me for a Kerry supporter there buddy...sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm NOT! I just think that this is grasping at
straws. He may have partaken in some messed up stuff in Nam, but where is your evidence that he worked with the North Vietnam government to help them
win the war in Vietnam?
[edit on 24-8-2004 by mpeake] 
Thats to easy brother...........evidence
The North Vietnamese general in charge of the military campaign that finally drove the U.S. out of South Vietnam in 1975 credited a group led by
Democratic presidential front-runner John Kerry with helping him achieve victory.
www.newsmax.com...
I could fill the forum with evidence but some people are starting to think like liberals and calling the facts "smearing". 
lol... being a member of an anti-war group doesn't equate to "working with" the north vietnamese government. it may have benefited them, but to
imply that he was somehow in league with the nva is pretty, well, lame, to say the least.
i've been to saigon and i've been to this museum, and they have photos of general westmoreland on the walls as well. does that mean he's a commie
traitor too? they also have a memorial to dead american troops... does that make them traitors?
and newsmax... lol lol lol....
-koji K.
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 07:55 PM by Firebase
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The existence of photographs showing Senator Kerry meeting with General Secretary Do Muoi is not in question. In the course of pursuing the POW and
MIA issue, it is reasonable that Senator Kerry would seek to meet with the communist leaders of Vietnam. The critical issue is that the Vietnamese
communists have chosen to honor Senator Kerry in their War Crimes Museum for his assistance in helping them achieve victory over the United States.
The sign outside the entrance to the room where Kerry's photo is displayed reads: "The World Supports Vietnam in its Resistance." Also
exhibited inside the room are protest banners and emblems from various nations and photographs of international leaders who supported North Vietnam's
cause.
There is ample documentation that John Kerry has met with General Secretary Do Muoi. The Far Eastern Economical Review of February 11, 1999 notes that
Senator Kerry met with Do Muoi when he visited Hanoi in December 1998. In a speech given on the Senate Floor on April 29, 1992 Senator Kerry discussed
in detail a meeting he had recently had with Do Muoi in Vietnam to discuss the fate of American POWs and MIAs. ( *NOTE: John Kerry OREDED all
documents from that investigation be destroyed: see www.aiipowmia.com... ) A photo widely circulated on the Internet shows
John Kerry formally posed with Do Muoi. The two men are seated with a statue of Ho Chi Minh in the background.
hooah
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 08:07 PM by Otts
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 The "Swift Boat Veterans" fiasco has showed how far some of these conservatives will go and how low they will stoop. They contradict their
earlier statements (willing, one supposes, to "lie" when it was a matter of official military record but leaping forward with the "truth" when the
guy they said was so competant suddenly turns out to be a gosh-darned More Liberal Than Bush poly-tician and a (horrors!) Democrat to boot instead of
an honest, Gawd-FhEARin' Republican like any honest man should be 
Thank you very much!  I was getting tired of conservatives and the tactics of who's the most RAH-GHTEOUS.
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 08:17 PM by koji_K
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Originally posted by Firebase
The existence of photographs showing Senator Kerry meeting with General Secretary Do Muoi is not in question. In the course of pursuing the POW and
MIA issue, it is reasonable that Senator Kerry would seek to meet with the communist leaders of Vietnam. The critical issue is that the Vietnamese
communists have chosen to honor Senator Kerry in their War Crimes Museum for his assistance in helping them achieve victory over the United States.
The sign outside the entrance to the room where Kerry's photo is displayed reads: "The World Supports Vietnam in its Resistance." Also
exhibited inside the room are protest banners and emblems from various nations and photographs of international leaders who supported North Vietnam's
cause.
There is ample documentation that John Kerry has met with General Secretary Do Muoi. The Far Eastern Economical Review of February 11, 1999 notes that
Senator Kerry met with Do Muoi when he visited Hanoi in December 1998. In a speech given on the Senate Floor on April 29, 1992 Senator Kerry discussed
in detail a meeting he had recently had with Do Muoi in Vietnam to discuss the fate of American POWs and MIAs. ( *NOTE: John Kerry OREDED all
documents from that investigation be destroyed: see www.aiipowmia.com... ) A photo widely circulated on the Internet shows
John Kerry formally posed with Do Muoi. The two men are seated with a statue of Ho Chi Minh in the background.
hooah
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i don't doubt any of this, but i don't see either how it makes kerry look bad. he decided to aid in the reconciliation effort. why is that wrong? as
for being honored, well, of course he was honored! he was a diplomatic guest! the US ambassador to Viet Nam is an ex POW himself.
-koji K.
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 10:21 PM by Firebase
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Originally posted by koji_Ki don't doubt any of this, but i don't see either how it makes kerry look bad. he decided to aid in the
reconciliation effort. why is that wrong? as for being honored, well, of course he was honored! he was a diplomatic guest! the US ambassador to Viet
Nam is an ex POW himself.
-koji K.
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he decided to aid in the reconciliation effort. why is that wrong?
Look at the URL link I gave you, or do you just shoot from the hip? Kerry ordered POW/MIA documents, with information of live sightings of MIAs,
destroyed to help the reconciliation effort. Call any POW/MIA family and ask them if they feel more reconciled. How can the man call himself a
brother of Vietnam warriors? See the link:
www.aiipowmia.com...
as for being honored, well, of course he was honored! he was a diplomatic guest!
Are you reading my postings? I think not, your putting such a SPIN on the information I gave you, you can't be reading anything I put in here. But
I'll say it again so folks just now looking at this thread will have an understanding of what this thread is about:
The critical issue is that the Vietnamese communists have chosen to honor Senator Kerry in their War Remnants Museum (formerly the “War Crimes
Museum”) in Saigon, for his assistance in helping them achieve victory over the United States." The sign outside the entrance to the room where
Kerry's photo is displayed reads: "The World Supports Vietnam in its Resistance.
The North Vietnamese general in charge of the military campaign that finally drove the U.S. out of South Vietnam in 1975, Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap,
credited a group led by Democratic presidential front-runner John Kerry with helping him achieve victory. If this man said it, you can bet your
life on it. I can see you people don't understand who this general was, so I got you all a link, read it.
www.brasseysinc.com...
hooah
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 10:48 PM by Wask
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Originally posted by Firebase
The existence of photographs showing Senator Kerry meeting with General Secretary Do Muoi is not in question. In the course of pursuing the POW and
MIA issue, it is reasonable that Senator Kerry would seek to meet with the communist leaders of Vietnam. The critical issue is that the Vietnamese
communists have chosen to honor Senator Kerry in their War Crimes Museum for his assistance in helping them achieve victory over the United States.
The sign outside the entrance to the room where Kerry's photo is displayed reads: "The World Supports Vietnam in its Resistance." Also
exhibited inside the room are protest banners and emblems from various nations and photographs of international leaders who supported North Vietnam's
cause.
[edit on 24-8-2004 by Firebase] 
Do you have a link to a pictures of this place?
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