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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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MRSA, c. difficile, salmonella, e. coli

All evolved to become antibiotic-resistant when their environment was flooded with the drugs

(unless you believe "god did it to kill thems gayses")
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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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how about this


Climate change is causing a breed of wild sheep in Scotland to shrink, according to research. Scientists say milder winters help smaller sheep to survive, resulting in this "paradoxical decrease in size". Classic evolutionary theory would predict that wild sheep gradually get bigger, as the stronger, larger animals survive into adulthood and reproduce. Reporting in Science journal, the team says this shows the "subtle interplay" between evolution and the environment. Scientists first began studying Soay sheep, on the island of Hirta in the St Kilda archipelago, in 1985. Since then, the sheep have decreased in size by 5% - their legs getting steadily shorter and their body weight decreasing. This strange phenomenon was first reported in 2007, but the reason for it remained under debate.


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I'm a christian myself, but I don't go around trying to 'prove' He exists. Evolutionists can point to all kinds of random mutations such as cancer which happens all the time, sure it kills everyone, but there's no reason why a 'perfect' mutation couldn't happen, such as lungs developing the ability to survive toxins, theoretically.




posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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Well your in the wrong thread because your not going to get that. This is the scientific forum. as evolutionist's claim evolution is a science and not a faith this is why i posted my question in this forum.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:21 PM
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But they are still bacteria are they not? So not actually one genus becoming another - fail.

And you can drop the childish sarcasm.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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Well what about back-engineering?
I saw a doccie last night where they already made a chicken embryo look more dinosaur-like, and despite millions of years of evolution the bird embryo still carries the dinosaur DNA.
They've already gotten results on teeth and a tail.
How can this be if evolution is not true?



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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perhaps these changes are happening right in front of our eyes, but since they are happening so slowly over thousands or even millions of years


So how cant that be the case if the animal is dead before it ever get's time to "evolve"???



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:25 PM
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Who cares if it's not a genus. It's either evolution or it's god.

I'll drop the childish sarcasm when you drop your childish mythology.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:26 PM
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genus is just a word and it depends what you attach to it.
If you look at botany, plants change genus quite often.
Sometimes its just a change of category, new rules, or just new species.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:26 PM
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Let me guess it was the good old BBC? you know there nicknamed "british brain-washing corporation" for a reason?



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:27 PM
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reply to post by Chrysalis
 


They are still plants. Not ever do you see a plant growing legs and becoming an animal, so how can evilution be true?



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:27 PM
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reply to post by Sailor Sam
 


Don't talk such rubbish! The fact you use such absurd straw-man arguments against evolution and demonstrate such an embarrassing lack of knowledge of the subject just shows you for the trolling, ignorant religious zealot that you are. Ladies and gentlemen, DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by Youji69

So how cant that be the case if the animal is dead before it ever get's time to "evolve"???



well, evolution supposedly happens over many generations, manifesting itself in minute changes that are brought about by the animal's environment. basically the species will adapt, and thus create new genus types that are more likely to survive in their particular environment.

again, it doesn't happen in only one generation, it happens over possibly hundreds or thousands of generation, spanning thousands or millions of years.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by repressed
 


But they are still bacteria are they not? So not actually one genus becoming another - fail.

And you can drop the childish sarcasm.


so what you want is the cientifical evidence of a fish transforming into a dog or something like that?

That bacteria evolved to survive, that is one of the basis of evolution.

But then again, absolutely nothing would convince you right?

it is more logical to believe that some entity created everything in seven days out of nothing, just for fun.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
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So i ask a simple question, which should be easy for you to answer as many of you claim creation is just a myth and evolution is a fact, yet you cannot even provide one piece of proof that any genus has become a new kind of animal, then you expect me to believe we can from a fish, then an ape like ancestor etc...?

Incredible.
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The family of canines (dogs) has several genus such as a fox or a wolf. what is so hard to understand about that.

Here is how doggies developed.

en.wikipedia.org...

Can you show me a similar explanation of how god developed - use the scientific method.
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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:29 PM
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This is gonna be sooooooo bad...

But does say, some figure changed water into wine, would that count ?



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by Chrysalis
 


They are still plants. Not ever do you see a plant growing legs and becoming an animal, so how can evilution be true?


The change takes place over a long amount of time in slight increments.

Only "God" can make a plant grow a leg......................................................Never seen one myself.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:30 PM
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I am asking if you can prove evolution is possible by showing me observable evidence of one Kind of living thing becoming a new genus (a new kind) of living thing. Like say a lizzard becoming a dog.

If you can't provide such evidence then you admit that evolution is purely based upon speculation and faith.

Real Scientific method's require observable, repeatable, or refutable evidence.

So far nobody has provided any. Transitional fossils are purely a speculative theory.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:33 PM
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Like i said if this is true:



The change takes place over a long amount of time in slight increments.


Then why do we not see plants with growing legs???

It takes long amount of time right? well the world's been around milions of years according to the evolutionist, so we would atleast see this process taking place over time, yet not one plant has acquired intelligence or limbs.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:33 PM
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According to your argument evolution cannot be true because God made all animals as is. I and others have already shown you numerous times observed instances of speciation. So, therefore your beliefs about evolution are wrong. Nowhere in the Bible does it mention one species becoming another (which is a clear cut case of evolution), but here in the real world it has been observed numerous times.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
Question - where is the SCIENTIFIC evidence for one genus EVER becoming another genus? (Kind)

I don't mean your "stories" and "charts" in evilution textbooks, I mean Scientific Method science.

Thanks.
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What's with all threads from you trying to start arguments with athiests? Why not let people believe what they choose and stop trying to push your beliefs on everybody else?

Which GOD would you like everybody to believe in?





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