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Frontline 'Top Secret America' - 6 Sep 2011

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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 03:35 PM
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A 2 year investigation by Dana Priest on topics to include, enhanced interogation techniques, black sites and the international secret prison system, mostly the 'after 9/11' activities.

www.pbs.org...

I haven't decided yet if the programme is objective and truthful or just part of the careful placement timed to link to 9/11 but thought I'd post in case anyone missed it.




posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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I thought it was disgusting. Pure "official story" .... All the new surveilance/tech they discuss is justified by "the threat of being attacked again, just like on 9/11"

None of it's "bad," it's all for our safety...



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 03:48 PM
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I been trying to actually watch this for the last 15 mins. It seems the video just will not load for some reason at the host site.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by MrWendal
I been trying to actually watch this for the last 15 mins. It seems the video just will not load for some reason at the host site.

Might be your version of Adobe Flash, I had to upgrade mine a few weeks ago for some video streaming sites to work.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:23 PM
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I watched it when it aired and I did not once feel like it was trying to convince me this was all good.

They placed equal blame on both political parties and even presented cases several times that all of these measures, erosion of liberties and hard financial expense were not having any affect toward safety nor could it.

I thought it was a really good program. I have the book by those two journalists right here at my desk.

It seemed very critical of the Patriot Act and the wars and all other "terror" related crap.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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At a pivotal point in the program, they referenced the "underwear bomber" and the "christmas day bomber" as justifications for all of this. Like "people are upset about their civil liberties being infringed upon, but LOOK AT THIS..." They don't mention the state department admitting they put the underwear bomber on the plane, or how the christmas day bomber was 100% set up by the fbi/other US agencies.

Zero credibility after that.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 05:02 PM
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The aspect of government sponsored terror wasnt within the scope of the program.

Taking the topic of Americas swollen surveillance society and it's perceived effectiveness balanced against the loss of liberty and running down some tangent about bombers being on the gov's payroll doesnt make for a good essay.

Sure, it's be nice if Frontline did do a program on the CIa connections of the bomber or one about the CIA farming poppies for heroin or whatever but none of that was within the scope of the program.

Making some massive 4 hour long conspiracy fest docu that runs nuts in all directions isnt good TV.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by digitalf

Originally posted by MrWendal
I been trying to actually watch this for the last 15 mins. It seems the video just will not load for some reason at the host site.

Might be your version of Adobe Flash, I had to upgrade mine a few weeks ago for some video streaming sites to work.


Thank you, I will take a peek and see if I need to update. I still can not get the video to load and have been trying since my last post.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 05:09 PM
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They weren't just "not talking about what's really going on," or leaving a few things out.
More than half the show was about "9/11 and post-9/11-terrorism"

They were telling "the official story of 9/11."
They'd say a few things about surveilance/security that would make you think... And then they'd come in with the "official story" as a reason for all of that... "See, no NEED to think."

Acting like the modern security/surveilance state is all about "preventing another 9/11" is a lie. This program was lying.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 06:09 PM
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I watched it all and it seems like the emphasis is on,

(1)* What amounts to huge sums of money, and ongoing, and seemingly unnecessary.
(2) CIA doing a good job in the first place and trillions cheaper, (controversial) and after the 9/11 fact.
(3) Conflict with the military..(Rumsfelds missing trillions?)
(4) private company agenda, (a big one)*
(5) early and later use of drones to kill, and no mention of possible use on 9/11
Having said that, it all still appears like an aftermath excuse for how the CIA 'got it' so 'badly wrong' in the first place.

I will hold any further thoughts until any follow up programme.

Just to add, was the National programme office mentioned in all of this?

Maybe some people like to rant, but does this 2002 story on an old CNN programme sound just a teensy bit familar to this this 'new' story,

www.sweetliberty.org...

BTW, what is written in red is deemed to be a twice plagiarised text, (not the link author), from 'Dialogue in Hell' and 'Les Mystères du Peuple' Now if either the Frontline story, or the 1991 CNN story is wholly true, then someone, somewhere, is playing out the Machiavelli story for real.
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posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 06:12 PM
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Frontline has had some incredible documentaries.

One of my favorites was about the recent healthcare bill. The #1 lobbyist from the health insurance industry is interviewed in it and is OPENLY stating that the only way the health insurance industry would support passing a bill is if they got their mandates.

This is why i find it amazing that Republicans continue to blast Obamacare...yet the pharmaceutical and health insurance industries were pushing for it the whole time.

Why no ire at them?

Will try to check out this doc when I have time.
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