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Originally posted by fooks
reply to post by backinblack
no blackie, just hoping they realize what they need to think about when/if they get statehood.
and the israelis won't be shooting people in the hand.
Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by IsraeliGuy
We could both post hundreds of youtube vids, both real and propaganda..
Fact is, we've seen them all before..
The only KNOWN facts we have, and even they are debatable, is the death toll on each side..
I note you don't like to mention the figures and I know why.
Originally posted by backinblack
Personally I hope they vote Hamas out democratically before that happens and establish a voice for the entire area of Palestine instead..
But then again, seeing as this is how you debate, I'm not surprised.
Originally posted by backinblack
Originally posted by fooks
reply to post by backinblack
no blackie, just hoping they realize what they need to think about when/if they get statehood.
and the israelis won't be shooting people in the hand.
What, they ain't gonna use paint guns?
But still, Statehood is a long way off..
Personally I hope they vote Hamas out democratically before that happens and establish a voice for the entire area of Palestine instead..
Originally posted by fooks
So you agree that it is wrong to declare independence just yet, and to wait for a better time (better for the Palestinians), a time where Hamas is out of the picture?
Luckily, the political world has already witnessed first hand of this BS, and the only political bargain chip they have is types like this backinblack dude that ramble on and on about death counts.
Originally posted by backinblack
Talk about twisting..
No, I said Statehood is still a fair way off..
You do know the vote this month is just for an indication of support right?
You also know they are already discussing a new form of representation right??
Originally posted by backinblack
Nah mate, dudes like me would like to debate the continues expansion of illegal Israeli settlements which is what we believe is at the heart of most of the fighting..
But "dudes" like you seem to sidestep that entire issue...
Hi everyone, I would first like to plug the blog of a friend of mine that has given up her summer, unlike most spoiled graduates, to teach children in Palestine. I have been speaking to her as much as I can and what I have found out really just confirms my view on the disgraceful treatment of the Palestinians at the hands of the Israelis.
The complete irony of the fact that it seems some are justifying treating innocent civilians badly because some people use innocent civilians as human shields has just made me shake my head in disbelief.
# Resolution 42: The Palestine Question (5 March 1948) Requests recommendations for the Palestine Commission
# Resolution 43: The Palestine Question (1 Apr 1948) Recognizes "increasing violence and disorder in Palestine" and requests that representatives of "the Jewish Agency for Palestine and the Arab Higher Committee" arrange, with the Security Council, "a truce between the Arab and Jewish Communities of Palestine...Calls upon Arab and Jewish armed groups in Palestine to cease acts of violence immediately."
# Resolution 44: The Palestine Question (1 Apr 1948) Requests convocation of special session of the General Assembly # Resolution 46: The Palestine Question (17 Apr 1948) As the United Kingdom is the Mandatory Power, "it is responsible for the maintenance of peace and order in Palestine." The Resolutions also "Calls upon all persons and organizations in Palestine" to stop importing "armed bands and fighting personnel...whatever their origin;...weapons and war materials;...Refrain, pending the future government of Palestine...from any political activity which might prejudice the rights, claims, or position of either community;...refrain from any action which will endager the safety of the Holy Places in Palestine."
maybe if this was my country i would care.
Israel is not a stupid country and will not evict any further land as long as there is a force that abuses these one-sided gestures to their own militant purposes.