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TRIPOLI – Islam will be the main source of legislation in post-Muammar Qaddafi Libya, the head of Libya’s transitional leadership said in his first public address in Tripoli on Monday.
“We will not accept any extremist ideology, on the right or the left. We are a Muslim people, for a moderate Islam, and we will stay on this road,” he said.
The chief of Libya's revolutionary movement told thousands of cheering Libyans in Tripoli on Monday to strive for a civil, democratic state, while loyalists of the hunted dictator Moammar Gadhafi killed at least 15 opposition fighters in an attack on a key oil town in Libya's east.
From hiding, Gadhafi urged his remaining followers to keep up the fight, a sign that Libya's six-month war is not over even though revolutionary forces now control most of the country and have begun setting up a new government in the capital.
Mustafa Abdul-Jalil addressed a crowd of thousands in Martyr's Square in Tripoli, a site that until recently was famous for pro-Gadhafi rallies. Flanked by a few dozen revolutionary leaders in their largest public gathering since rebel forces stormed into the capital on Aug. 21, he called on Libyans to build a state based on the rule of law.
"No retribution, no taking matters into your own hands and no oppression. I hope that the revolution will not stumble because of any of these things," he said.
Concerns had already surfaced following the unexplained killing in July of the rebels' military commander, Abdel Fattah Younes, after he was taken into custody by his own side for questioning.
But neither arrogance nor vengeance dominated Mr Belhaj's victory speech to the rebels in Tripoli. Instead, he called on Libyans to safeguard public property, end their vendettas and build a new Libya.
The moderate tone is generally consistent with what most LIFG leaders have been saying in the last six months, whether in eastern or western Libya. It seems their experiences in armed conflicts in Afghanistan, Libya and Algeria have forced them to mature politically, re-calculate strategically, and moderate their behaviour and ideology.
The former "fighting group" has even toned down its name, becoming the Islamic Movement for Change.
However, enforcing a moderate stance among its rank-and-file members will be a challenge for the leadership. In today's lawless war zone, which has placed small- and mid-sized arms in the hands of virtually everyone, conditions can change significantly and so can loyalties and hierarchies.
But a former mid-ranking LIFG member - who commands around 300 men from the coastal city of Derna - said the group has no ulterior motives.
"We are not trying to establish an Islamic emirate," said Abdul Hakim al-Hasadi. "Look around you… do you see any camps or a separate force from the rest of the fighters?"
The other challenge for the LIFG is to transform itself from a militia to a political party.
"We were trained as fighters and theologians, not politicians," said another former member of the group. "So when it comes to democracy, constitution, and elections, the leaders have got nothing to say."
Mustafa Abdul Jalil or Abdul-Jalil[1] (Arabic: مصطفى عبد الجليل, also transcribed Abdul-Jelil, Abd-al-Jalil,[2] Abdel-Jalil, Abdeljalil or Abdu Al Jeleil) (born 1952)[3] is a Libyan politician. From 2007 to 2011, he was Minister of Justice (officially, the Secretary of the General People's Committee of Justice) under Colonel Muammar al-Gaddafi.
[2] He has been noted in some news media for his stance against various human rights violations in Libya, although others express a different view and stress, for example, that it was he who sentenced to death the Bulgarian nurses (later converted to life imprisonment and eventually release).
During the 2011 Libyan civil war, Abdul Jalil has been identified as the Chairman of the National Transitional Council based in Benghazi, which controls most of the country, although this position is contested by others in the uprising due to his past direct participation to Gaddafi's government as Minister of Justice for four years until 2011.
he is not credible
Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
dont give me a BS nonsone talk of democracy
Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
Nor are the western mainstream news credible NATO Fanboy
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
....but we all know it will be a puppet western democracy that robs the Libyan people of their rights and resources.
Originally posted by Xcathdra
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
....but we all know it will be a puppet western democracy that robs the Libyan people of their rights and resources.
Based on???
Your opinion? Aliens from the future? The Oracle of Delphi?
Ouiji boards?
World leaders agreed on Thursday that the United Nations will take the lead on assisting Libya's new leadership in a post-Moammar Gadhafi era. Leaders and envoys from 60 nations met in Paris for talks with the rebel-led National Transitional Council to build a roadmap of Libya's future and hash out a strategy for winding down the NATO mission. UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said that dozens of world leaders agreed that the UN will take the lead and he urged "prompt action" to "deploy a civilian mission as rapidly as possible."
Originally posted by Xcathdra
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
....but we all know it will be a puppet western democracy that robs the Libyan people of their rights and resources.
Based on???
Your opinion? Aliens from the future? The Oracle of Delphi?
Ouiji boards?
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by Corruption Exposed
Not really since the past is the past and the future is not written yet. Looking for gloom and doom accomplishes what exactly? A movement started by the people is turned into internatioanl intrique because?
Why are people not making the smae argument for Tunisia? Egypt? Yemen? Syria? Iran? Jordan? Saudi Arabia? UAE? Bahrain?
A movement started by the people is turned into internatioanl intrique because?
Why are people not making the smae argument for Tunisia? Egypt? Yemen? Syria? Iran? Jordan? Saudi Arabia? UAE? Bahrain?
Based on King Idrs The Rebel leadership and NTC Also includes a family member from The pro puppet western libyan royal Idrs Family, and Corruption Exposed is correct libya in the 1950s was a puppet to west.
Agent, what are your thoughts of the possibility of inner conflicts within the Muslim factions of the new government, and if it will cause a new revolution or regime change?
Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
Based on King Idrs The Rebel leadership and NTC Also includes a family member from The pro puppet western libyan royal Idrs Family, and Corruption Exposed is correct libya in the 1950s was a puppet to west.
Although the king died in exile and most Libyans were born after his reign, during the current 2011 Libyan uprising, many demonstrators opposing Colonel Gadaffi use the old tricolour flag of the monarchy and carry portraits of the king, especially in the traditional Sanussi stronghold of Cyrenaica.[6]
The frustration and shame felt by Libyan officers by Israel's massive defeat of the Arab armies on three fronts in 1967 fuelled their determination to contribute to Arab unity by overthrowing the Libyan monarchy. An early conspirator, Gaddafi first started planning the overthrow of the monarchy while a cadet.
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
My post was not meant to offend you or tempt you to make incorrect assumptions about me. I am not dooming and glooming, just being realistic. Perhaps my view on reality differs, that is a side issue.
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
Sorry please clarify that, I am not sure what you are asking and how it related to my post.
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
I have personally heard this argument made for all those countries here on ATS, other forums, and even on the mainstream news.
Originally posted by lifeissacred
reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter
The same as every other middle eastern country, all incorporate Islam into their system of government to some extent, lets not forget it is the historically dominant religion in the region, obviously it has some prominence.
This supposed revolution
Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter
This supposed revolution
Yep, that's what it is IMO, orchestrated from outside by evil people..
All they want is control of the assets and don't care how many die to get them..
If Australia was in trouble and I heard the US or NATO etc were going to help, I'd move to NZ fast.