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Originally posted by sirnex
We can def all agree that existence exists...
Knowing that existence exist, what would be existence if it didn't exist? How can something exist without existing in the first place? If nothing existed to give rise to existence, then existence wouldn't exist, would it? The only logical conclusion is that existence has always existed without any prior causation, no beginning......
Why does existence exist rather than does not exist.
Why does existence flow and change.
Um, how much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood??
It really all comes down to perspective... How can we know what we don't know if no one knows all of everything from the Big Bang beginning or pre-beginning before the Big Bang or after the coming Armegeddon ?
... No one knows, but everyone has a belief usually with little to no proof just theories ... So what then?
u said this...
What I find difficult to understand is how can a believer of an eternal deity be unable to comprehend the infinite.
so, how many "non-believers" do u know that TRULY understand INFINITY?????
your point is moot...
you are comfortable with the blind belief answer of a deity concieved of a mere 2000 years ago by an offshoot religious sect that is known to have incorporated various stories from surrounding religions and violent conquest to become todays most popular belief.
how do know know what i think / believe... ?
i wasnt the one who first mentioned GOD,,,
i wasnt trying to invoke GOD, although i do believe...
but i am happier there, than with " we came from a big bang, and then MUD that came to life..."
The particle horizon of the observable universe is the boundary that represents
the maximum distance at which events can currently be observed.
For events beyond that distance, light has not had time to reach our location,
even if it were emitted at the time the universe began.
How the particle horizon changes with time depends on
the nature of the expansion of the universe.
If the expansion has certain characteristics, there are parts of the universe
that will never be observable, no matter how long the observer waits for light
from those regions to arrive.
The boundary past which events cannot ever be observed is an event horizon,
and it represents the maximum extent of the particle horizon.
In general relativity, a naked singularity is a gravitational singularity, without an event horizon.
In a black hole, there is a region around the singularity, the event horizon,
where the gravitational force of the singularity is strong enough so that light cannot escape.
Hence, the singularity cannot be directly observed.
A naked singularity, by contrast, is observable from the outside.
The theoretical existence of naked singularities is important because their existence
would mean that it would be possible to observe the collapse of an object to infinite density.
It would also cause foundational problems for general relativity, because in the presence of a naked singularity, general relativity cannot make predictions about the future evolution of spacetime.
Some research has suggested that if loop quantum gravity is correct, then naked singularities
could exist in nature, implying that the cosmic censorship hypothesis does not hold.
Numerical calculations and some other arguments have also hinted at this possibility.
To this date, no naked singularities (and no event horizons) have been observed.
gee thanks for the happy input...
u do realise what forum u are trolling in...?
" ORIGINs and CREATIONISM..."
i asked a question to start, and things are going along well, thanks, except u have to bring your hate here...
start a rant thread of your own...
and YES i understand the big bang theory,
i asked a question about it , thats all...'
and as for GOD, my "belief" is irrelevant to the question,
and if u read my replies u would concede i have been trying to learn from this, not sell anything....
for the record i believe in the possibility that there is a "higher power",
either " in" the universe, or outside of it...
but not necessarily timeless nor self created... i didnt claim to know...
is the existence of GOD impossible?
+ u still have to explain how u get so much into such a small spot, ( singularity),
extra dimensions, maybe....
and where was the singularity... ??? (original question)
was EVERYTHING, contained in one small spot, always in existence? as in ALWAYS,?
We're talking about a personified intelligent entity with human behaviors and emotions here.
I'm sorry, I assumed the mention of a singularity was self explanatory.
Gravitational forces is what keeps the singularity intact.
The forces are so great that the very laws of physics actually break down inside of them.
We have no idea how the actual singularity point behaves, the forms of energy it contains, or what exactly it is other than a really really dense one dimensional point of energy.
u arrogantly say it is so obious, " self- explanitory'...
and then admit that we know nothing abot them ...( singularities )...
the initial state of the universe, at the beginning of the Big Bang, was a singularity. Both General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics break down in describing the Big Bang, but in general QM does not permit particles to inhabit a space smaller than their wavelengths.
who was a good boy at school, then,,,?
did u sit in the front row?
i just love the way Michio Kaku explains things... and agree the multi verse is a possibility... we used to think the earth was flat, and at the centre of everything... then we spent a while believing the milky way was everything... why not have multiple universes and extra dimensions... they are all possible, if not probably... IMHO seeya