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Noam Chomsky on Ron Paul's 9/11 Theories: What He Says Is Uncontroversial!

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posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 08:52 PM
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This is an important video I think
Because it crosses the fictitious yet highly strong partisan border lines

Everyone should spread this video for the message
Not either men, but the message

How can you keep thinking in the twilight zone, forever?
How is that going to work for you economically?




posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 09:06 PM
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I thought Osama Bin Laden denied any involvement in the attacks. Thats why the US Govt murdered him. So he couldn't have a fair trial where the evidence/truth would come spilling out about the CIA's involvement.

Ron Pauls mis-info is better than what George Bush's dis-info was. I'd like to see where Osama Bin Laden said this.

But you have to agree. What business does the US have occupying foreign soil? Get back to your own country and protect those freedoms, oh thats right, it's a Police state, people don't have freedoms.

Oh AND that land was taken from the Native Indians by the British. That's all the US Government, historically, can do....occupy other peoples land, and take it away from them, just like The Khazars/Jews.

Queue the Israel/US slurs.

It wasn't like this when your forefathers set about bringing change and freedom. Oh how far the US has fallen.


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posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 09:10 PM
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if osama was responsible for 9/11 he would have officially been charged by the f.b.i.

he wasn't. his top 10 most wanted profile only has him named to be responsible for the u.s.s. cole attack.

what's the reason for that omission. it doesn't even allege or even mention the 9/11 attacks on the f.b.i. website.



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 09:11 PM
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Good video, i'm with Paul on this issue piss on the world bring the troops home and let the world fend for its self. We'll see if China can do any better playing world cop.



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 09:14 PM
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Really then don't listen to me or Ron Paul
Listen to:
CIA Bin Laden Chief Michael Scheuer: We were attacked because of our government


Don't understand the motivation of your enemy
continue doing so, see where that gets you

You are doing a disservice to your countrymen with your lack of understanding



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 09:21 PM
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At 1:20 in the video, where after he says "That is just not true" everyone starts clapping. No boo's at that point yet. He continues to say "Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda have been explicit--" people are clapping still and boo's start coming on. I think whats happening here is that the large amount of people clapping, upon hearing people start to boo, were put into a state of shock by the idea that ANYONE in their right mind could possibly be BOOING that the clapping folks lost control of their bodies and their abilities to continue clapping. Essentially, the people clapping were so shocked by the stupidity in the audience that they couldn't continue to clap until the state of shock subsided. Meanwhile, Santorum isn't shaking his head.. once people start booing THEN he starts to shake his head. He was afraid to shake his head before people boo'd. Santorum knew RP wouldn't lie to cover up the truth, and he knew how RP would answer the question. I think the question was set up to get boos. Santorum knew how RP would reply, and I bet he had fans in the audience ready to boo on cue.

I've said it before though. Even this incident helps RP's campaign.

Cheers



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 09:23 PM
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I always thought Bin Laden died in Dec 2001.

At least that's what Fox News said way back then.

Who is the lier?

The news that say he died, or the news that kept him alive?

www.foxnews.com...


Wednesday, December 26, 2001

Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.

"The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said.

Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
reply to post by LightAssassin
 


Really then don't listen to me or Ron Paul
Listen to:
CIA Bin Laden Chief Michael Scheuer: We were attacked because of our government


Bumpkin Crowd: Boooooo, Michael Scheuer, Boooo!! America can do no wrong!! Boooooo!

Lol....
Good stuff.


Cheers



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 09:27 PM
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i have been thinking alot lately about pauls foreign poliicy stance even tho i do like some things paul says.

my only problems with this isolationism doesnt work never has.

americans buried their heads in the sand under wilson world war 1 happened

returned to that then world war 2 happened un fdr both times massive grab for power by the government.

then fast forward to clinton buried his head in the sand then 9-11 happened.

at face value pauls stance has some merit however when people are held to account for their actions

its like 2 kids fighting in a school yard he pushed me so i pushed back and then here comes the ops

they attacked us because we are there? how childish is that seriously? hey millions of them in the west in our lands and i dont see americans strapping bombs on their chest and flying bombs into their buildings.

hell under clinton that tag line was fighting to save muslims.

9-11 was the game changer they can be here but no we are going to kill you because you sit foot in "holy land"

man i dont know its messed up but paul may be right on some level but history has proven him wrong in so many ways.



posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 09:42 PM
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Why should Paul be wrong when we know he is correct?

Ron Paul is way above the status quo of thinking that some think he is silent ...listen to that small voice that is inside us all .....peace
ps...how is Paul wrong??? any links and stuff I can look at ?
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posted on Sep, 13 2011 @ 09:50 PM
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Definitely a video to spread to help bring true conservatives and progressives together. We'll need a coalition to get things done going into 2012 and beyond.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 02:53 AM
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Here's a bit of background info on Chomsky if anyone wants to know


Ideologically identifying with anarchism and libertarian socialism, Chomsky is known for his critiques of U.S. foreign policy,[10] and he has been described as a prominent cultural figure.[11] His social criticism has included Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media (1988), co-written with Edward S. Herman, an analysis articulating the propaganda model theory for examining the media.



Chomsky has stated that his "personal visions are fairly traditional anarchist ones, with origins in The Enlightenment and classical liberalism"[69] and he has praised libertarian socialism.[70] Chomsky tries to avoid the ambiguity of labels, although he has described himself as an anarcho-syndicalist.[71] He is a member of the Campaign for Peace and Democracy and the Industrial Workers of the World international union.[72] He published a book on anarchism titled Chomsky on Anarchism, published by the anarchist book collective AK Press in 2006.



Chomsky is critical of the American "state capitalist" system and big business, he describes himself as a socialist, specifically an anarcho-syndicalist, and is therefore strongly critical of "authoritarian" communist branches of socialism.[citation needed] He also believes that socialist values exemplify the rational and morally consistent extension of original unreconstructed classical liberal and radical humanist ideas to an industrial context. He believes that society should be highly organized and based on democratic control of communities and work places. He believes that the radical humanist ideas of his two major influences, Bertrand Russell and John Dewey, were "rooted in the Enlightenment and classical liberalism, and retain their revolutionary character."[84]


en.wikipedia.org...

Here's a little something about that Industrial Workers Of The World Union(has that communist proletariat ring)


The IWW contends that all workers should be united as a class and that the wage system should be abolished.[1] They may be best known for the Wobbly Shop model of workplace democracy, in which workers elect recallable delegates, and other norms of grassroots democracy (self-management) are implemented.


The IWW was founded in Chicago in June 1905 at a convention of two hundred socialists, anarchists, and radical trade unionists from all over the United States (mainly the Western Federation of Miners) who were opposed to the policies of the American Federation of Labor (AFL).


en.wikipedia.org...

For anyone who wants to know



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 03:20 AM
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Noam Chomsky is always spot on. Very well educated and respected.

Not surprised that he would agree with Ron Paul. As he said, you can read about it in government documents.


“On no other foreign policy issue since the Cold War’s end has the truth been so easy to establish on the basis of hard facts but so hard for Americans to see … that Muslim hatred is motivated by U.S. interventionism more than any other factor.”

Our growing number of Islamist enemies are motivated to attack us because of what the U.S. government does in the Muslim world and not because of how Americans live and think here at home.”

– Michael Scheuer, 22 year CIA officer, Chief of the Bin Laden unit.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 03:31 AM
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It's no surprise Paul received boo's from a republican crowd over the statements he made. Ron Pauls comments basically echoed the left wing anti war arguments. Something I wouldn't imagine sits well with hardcore republicans.
I for one thought Pauls comments were honest and realistic. Sometimes the truth hurts especially if you have invested so much emotion in the lies.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 03:42 AM
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I think Paul knows what's up, but he can't go out spouting conspiracy theories and expect to win.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:03 AM
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You know, the republicans, not the conservatives, could learn a thing or two about facing their faults.
To me, sometimes they are just as stubborn and ignorant as the democrats when it comes to
acknowledging their own faults.

Once they get passed that, I think they may have a better shot.

But as of now, all they are doing is destroying their own party.
Its not Ron Paul or his followers or the conservatives that are to blame.

Ron Paul has to win over these republicans, and he needs to do that by providing truth.
He has enough truth to the issues that they are almost bulletproof.
You cant deny the figures, and you cant deny what actually took place.
thats all he has to do.
Hes put it out there for 30+ years(the truth), and people still dont want to listen, eventhough deep down inside they know he is right.

These Bush republicans are just as bad as the Obama democrats, neither of them ever want to admit they
screwed the pooch. They have been fed lies the entire time while ignorantly accepting those lies, and obviously still do.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:07 AM
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Originally posted by the2ofusr1
Why should Paul be wrong when we know he is correct?

Ron Paul is way above the status quo of thinking that some think he is silent ...listen to that small voice that is inside us all .....peace
ps...how is Paul wrong??? any links and stuff I can look at ?
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only problem with the "links an stuff" is that they would not prove he IS correct.

he sounds great, right? soooooo simple. not!

this is now, not 30yrs ago. his world view, anyones, has to change. the world changes.

it doesn't matter what he thinks, it's what the other guy thinks and he has to know what "they" are thinking to be effective as POTUS.

i am not comfortable that he has a grip on that type of thinking.

eta; wrote this before watching the other guy in the vid. lol!
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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:20 AM
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I wonder what would happen if Paul won the Presidency, and he runs straight into the brick wall of the CFR, who uses "conflict management" the NWO way. Others have speculated on this as well. i'm certain that Paul knows what he is up against, but we saw what happened even when Reagan put up a fight. He would have to have enough people around to support him in implementing his plan of less interventionism.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 05:19 AM
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MY lack of understanding.

US wasn't attacked because of that. Yeh, overseas embassies, sure. NOT 9/11. The perpetrator RUNS your Govt and will try and RUN Ron Paul too. If that doesn't work, well, Lincoln, Kennedy...'They' have no interest in 'for the people'.

I am insulted that you accuse my lack of understanding when all the evidence and 'coincidences' and WTC7 point to who's really behind it.

I loved your country when I was a child. How innocent and naive I was! I love my country even less though so please don't take this the wrong way.

I'm pretty sure he said 'Osama said:'. I want to see when Osama said them. This was the cause of my rant.
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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 06:42 AM
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Originally posted by LightAssassin
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I'm pretty sure he said 'Osama said:'. I want to see when Osama said them. This was the cause of my rant


Here it is. Although some say (not Noam or Ron Paul) that this is an imposter, or that bin laden worked for the CIA...

http://w ww.google.com/#q=osama+bin+laden+admits+to+9+11&hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1W1ADFA_en&biw=1120&bih=565&fp=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&cad=b


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