Reading man jailed for dead girl 'trolling' insults

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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 03:50 AM
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Originally posted by DevilsApprentice

I wonder how many hypocrites posted nasty comments about this guy here on ATS and in the media .
edit on 14-9-2011 by DevilsApprentice because: (no reason given)


This is the exact Point,
too many People share something!

That Guy/ Troll is, for sure, a Victim too,
like many other People behind the so called "Social Networks"!

A Prison will not help at all,
he may die there and this is bad because every Life is a good one
and when he do not died there he will came out as an Sociopath
with the urgent desire to harm other People but maybe this Time not in the Net!




posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:50 AM
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This is a perfect law and is only used in extreme cases, it doesnt stop people from throwing insults or trolling but when they take it too far, to the point where people would want them dead, then they go to jail.


Extremely poor taste a jail-able offense? And this is desirable to you? When do we lock up the writers of Tele-Tubbies? I wanted them dead every time that show came on T.V. I mean it was criminal to present that sort of stuff to our little children. It was creepy and unsettling on so many levels.

See my point?



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:53 AM
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Trolls really DO look as I picture them in my imagination!!!



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 04:56 AM
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Victimless crime? Try telling the parents of the child that.


He didn't kill her, he made remarks after the fact. there is a huge difference!



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 05:09 AM
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If this offensive little prick had sat outside the bereaved parents houses shouting abuse, then he would have been eventually arrested for breach of the peace, or some other similar charge. The fact that he chose to act offensively from a computer makes no odds. You can call it “trolling” if you like, but actually his actions were just offensive and designed to be taken as such.

He deserves what he got. This does not mean that trolling per se is illegal, but it does mean that that the courts – through interpretation of the law, thus setting a precedent – have shown that acting in the offensive manner he did was unlawful.


Originally posted by Helious
... arrested and jailed by the government....


For those who have stated the “government did it”. You really need to research how the law works in the UK.


Originally posted by Flyer
We dont have free speech and we dont have nutcases like westboro. The US doesnt have free speech and they encourage Westboro thinking it means they keep free speech.


In the UK we do have free speech. However, we also have an acknowledgement what is socially acceptable. If you stood up and screamed offensively in the middle of the street, you would be removed. In the UK we don’t have Westboro because that’s an American thing, but we do have the Islamic version (i.e. the Muslims Against Crusades) and others, so the example is moot.

Regards



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 05:29 AM
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Originally posted by Slavich
Yes cause someone's feelings getting hurt is def worthy of some jail time. Get real dude.


Said by someone who hasn't had to outlive their murdered child and then have someone mock their pain and grief.

Try applying your logic to a grieving parent or family. If someone killed one of my children and YOU came along and started saying the same crap that the troll did... I'd probably be arrested for assault and grievous bodily harm.

Hence why we have these laws in the UK - to also stop other people from doing something they'd otherwise regret when the red mist clears.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 05:31 AM
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Yeah , So how will it go if , while his guy is locked up , some real criminal decides to beat him to death ? I did the rounds of the UK MSM and found that a percentage of those posting comments would find this the prefered way of dealing with this particular offence ... Death for trolling ? WTF
Others thought that giving themselves some private time with the indivual was also acceptable ? WTF
too funny for words .

Best comment I found was this gem.


Drew called for the operators of social networking sites to take more responsibility for their content: "The web is a wonderful thing if used right but as you can see in this case it was used wrongly. These days children live on Facebook, it's their lives and they're just so vulnerable."


From here

Children who live on FB or anywhere else on the net need to have their fail parents locked up for lack of responsibility , since when are the rest of us responsible for thier useless kids .. Lol

People seem to think that creating a tribute page on the interwebs will somehow ease their personal guilt for failing parenthood when their prodginy .. off themselves by train ... get drunk then drive and die ( always a good excuse for a little cross and flowers to prove an individuals stupidity ) or some other such personal calamity . All to get a bunch of hollow comments from the ghouls that follow said pages .



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 05:35 AM
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Originally posted by Slavich
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Or you could quit being a pussy and not let people's words affect you. We don't need laws and policies to hold our hands.



Spoken like a true troll



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 05:52 AM
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I never said he did, her parents read the trolling and were affected by it. Therefore they were the victims.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by DevilsApprentice
People seem to think that creating a tribute page on the interwebs will somehow ease their personal guilt for failing parenthood when their prodginy .. off themselves by train ... get drunk then drive and die ( always a good excuse for a little cross and flowers to prove an individuals stupidity ) or some other such personal calamity . All to get a bunch of hollow comments from the ghouls that follow said pages .


People deal with grief in different ways. Unless / until you have gone through the trauma associated with the loss of a son or daughter, I would not be so quick to pass judgement and belittle how people chose to deal with it.

Either way – and to topic – acting in the way this person did is inexcusable. At the very least his actions displayed a level of insensitivity and lack of empathy which should be worrying to any normal person. It was certainly worrying to the court, as illustrated by his sentence.

What is alarming is that some people on these Boards seem to think it’s OK!


Regards



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 07:18 AM
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All speech HAS to be protected. You can't pick and chose what is allowed to be said because it upsets you.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 07:19 AM
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Also you have every right to insult a cop. They can break the law and screw with you, but you are protected in our legal system.


Yes and then the cop will shoot you and say that "he feared for his life from your insults"



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 07:25 AM
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Originally posted by xxsomexpersonxx
Unless a person is known to be mentally ill, or otherwise unstable, I don't think trolling is criminally reckless. There's things we do everyday that are more likely to kill others on accident than trolling leading someone to commit suicide. No way freedom of speech should have restrictions put on it over that.
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The guy actually has Aspergers.
But having said that, another guy I know who has Aspergers is also one of the biggest internet trolls I know., so...



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 07:27 AM
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The UK can and has.

Would you like Westboro to come and picket your child/parents funeral or would you like a peaceful service?



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by Flyer
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The UK can and has.

Would you like Westboro to come and picket your child/parents funeral or would you like a peaceful service?



We have members of the WBC here in the UK too... Actual UK nationals who have been approved by WBC



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 07:35 AM
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Originally posted by mnmcandiez
All speech HAS to be protected. You can't pick and chose what is allowed to be said because it upsets you.


really? you wouldn't get upset if i heard your ugly grandma died of aids and just had a great time with it on the net?



and kept at it like this idiot?

or your brain tumor was caused by picking the dead skin off your athlete's foot then picking your nose?



civility needs to be the order of the day, on the net.

we have a mod alert button on ats, too bad not one for the NWO cops.

he should be jailed.

why would you want to say things like that about a dead person you don't know?

it's stupid.

maybe we should have a darwinian law?

i think "stupid" is like porn, you know it when you see it.


hey! don't even think about turning ME in!




posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by paraphi

People deal with grief in different ways. Unless / until you have gone through the trauma associated with the loss of a son or daughter, I would not be so quick to pass judgement and belittle how people chose to deal with it.

Either way – and to topic – acting in the way this person did is inexcusable. At the very least his actions displayed a level of insensitivity and lack of empathy which should be worrying to any normal person. It was certainly worrying to the court, as illustrated by his sentence.

What is alarming is that some people on these Boards seem to think it’s OK!


Regards


Frankly I'll be as judgmental as I please , whether you , or others like it or not


Would care to also comment on some of the points in my post i.e. the people who feel that the " crime " trolling deserves death or pyhsical assault ?

Would also care to comment on the other individual who was injured when the yoyo in question chose to off themselves by train ? . That person would be the operator of the train , and he/she would have been the last person to see this selfish little twat alive .

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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 08:10 AM
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Sorry, but the UK does not have a right of free speech in law.

What we have is a negative right of freedom of expression.

What that translates to is we can say what we want, providing it does not contravene any of the myriad of laws saying "you can't say that."

What legal rights to freedom of speech we have come from EU law, not UK law, and the government tends to ignore them when they are inconvenient.

en.wikipedia.org...

en.wikipedia.org...

In this case, his actions were contary to the telecommunications act as someone has already pointed out, and also I think, the computer abuse act.

That said, considering he has asoergers, I feel that a custodial sentence is overly harsh.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by Helious
Ass kicked and spit on, absolutely, arrested and jailed by the government.... No.


Or just tattoo *Dick* on his forehead..



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by DevilsApprentice
Frankly I'll be as judgmental as I please , whether you , or others like it or not



Good for you. I was merely pointing out that you should not be-little people who have lost a son or daughter unless you have experienced it yourself. If you think your stance is clever and adds to the debate then good for you. If it makes you happy.


Originally posted by DevilsApprentice
Would care to also comment on some of the points in my post i.e. the people who feel that the " crime " trolling deserves death or pyhsical assault ?


Why? It’s a silly proposition.

Regards





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