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A 14-year-old boy got into a fight at a school bus stop and the police officer responded by shooting

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posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 07:51 AM
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reply to post by ahmonrarh
 


I totally commend your attitude. Most people would shoot and kill or seriously wound the criminal so that they could keep their $200 bracelett. I respect you massively for valuing a persons life over your possession, not only a persons life, but a criminal who had robbed you. Some people forget that evryone has a story and just because he was a petty theif certainly wouldn't warrent death (even though legaly you could have killed him)

I hope more gun owners possess similar morals to yourself. Also its safer doing this than risking a quick draw shot at em and then trying to survive the ensuing gun fight. You did whats best, kept your kool and remembered what he lookd like (very hard to do in a stressful adrenaline fueled situation I might add,most poeple will totally forget the colour of their clothes even let alone their face)

I've always been taught in boxing and kickboxing, but very tough capable guys that if someone pulls a gun or knife just hand over your wallet, its not worth your life and thats true.




posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 07:55 AM
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this was a CHILD, not a group of men, or a pack of wild animals. This filthy pig needs to be hung drawn and quatered as an example to the rest of the power hungry insane police officers which roam our streets in wild packs.

There is NO excuse for this scums behaviour. None what so ever. Pure and simple. This CHILD was hiding in a shed for crying out loud. Yay, lets kill him!!


Edit. I'm so glad i live in the UK, where people aren't so scared that they need to carry a gun just to feel safe. It's pathetic.
edit on 14/9/2011 by Acidtastic because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 08:14 AM
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If i could, give me 5 minutes with this cop in room with a nail bat a chipple and a saw, justice will be served.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 08:30 AM
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NOT trying to justify this event in any way/shape or form... but attached to your 2nd story link was the original story. www.ksat.com...


"A homeowner came out, waved the officer down and said he thought the boy was in the shed," Gonzalez said. Gonzales said the two got into a scuffle that ended when the officer firing one shot, killing the teenager. "It was obvious there was a struggle," Gonzales said. "The officer has a cut on his lip and his knee is injured. It looks like the suspect came at the police officer."


What was the rush? Why not wait for additonal assistance? Why not a taser, mace or baton?

Truly a shame. If the cop gets off...... people BETTER be in the streets in that community and demanding some serious changes in procedures. The city just lost about 10 million dollars on this one.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by no special characters
If it'd be my kid this psychopath would be long gone.

I would be more satisfying probably to see him locked up for life, as would happen in a civilized society.

Too bad the US is a twisted barbarian one and the guy will remain to terrorize citizens for years to come. Probably even bragging to his cop buddies about this murder.


No, a truly "civilized" society would execute these people so that they could never harm another person again. Once you turn to a life of crime it never ends, the only solution is the tie a noose around their necks and hang them. We need to go back to the days of a good 'ol fashioned lynch mob. The government doesn't work anymore, the only justice we get is the justice we make.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 08:43 AM
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Please, nobody get offended when I ask this, but why are American Cops so damned violent?

I ask because there is an obvious difference in Police-related Murders, yes, Murders.


I mean, here in Australia the Cops are pretty good, but Jesus.






He was a 14 year old child.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 08:45 AM
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When police tell you to freeze you freeze. I'm sorry the kid got killed and the officer is probably in the wrong (that's for a jury to decide) but let's face it if the kid had atleast a gumption of respect for authority he would not have ran and would be alive today.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 08:49 AM
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Since when do school districst have their own police force?



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 08:54 AM
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Originally posted by neo96
exactly the reason why public jobs should never be unionized.

if he wasnt union he would have been long gone.


I agree. I can see support for unions in a private workforce, but when it comes to the public positions, unions seem to do more harm then good. Governments are already accountable to the people and should not need a union to keep them in line. Private corporations on the other hand may develop abusive policies against the worker, and I think unions may be justified on the private level.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 09:02 AM
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Becuase everyone feeds off eachother, everything is a gang here. If your not part of one faction your part of another. It's different classes and factions at eachothers throats every minute of everyday. Funny part is this is the norm and most people dont even realize this.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by DavidsHope
I am at a total loss for words. Star and Flag to help keep this thread alive. I often hear about how the Police need to be careful about how they approach someone not knowing if they are dangerous. they need to consider that the person being approached is probably even more terrified and as these incidents increase, so will the fear.
Peace and Love to this child's family. DH


and some day I hope we as citizens over come that fear and stand up for what is right as a whole, and fight back against this police state country to put things right finally. I say this as a father, and not because of my opinion on police in general, there is no way I could allow that cop to live after such an atrocity. He would be hunted down like the dog he is.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 09:03 AM
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What ever happened to being dragged to the principles office for getting into trouble and getting your punishment,being detention or a good caning. I think ever since teachers lost all control it was only a matter of time they would have to call the police for this type of thing. A designed breakdown in society.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 09:04 AM
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I carry a gun to defend myself and my family, and any innocent person that may need my help. Alot of crime goes down here. I refuse to stand by and let any innocent person become just another statistic.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 09:14 AM
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I completely agree, this shooting was ridiculous, and the guy needs to be drawn and quartered! He had no reason to fear for his life, and no reason to chase the kid, and definitely no reason to draw his weapon.

My post was only in responding as to why the officer had a gun in the first place. Some people were suggesting he didn't need a gun, because his job was around children, and I was commenting that the gun is to help protect the children.

Obviously this guy should have lost his job ages ago, and after multiple complaints, he should not have been allowed to carry a gun, or work in law enforcement. No argument from me there. Only the Man is the problem, not the gun.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 09:15 AM
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I had a feeling the entire story was not being told in the OP's post. Nothing was mentioned of the kid resisiting arrest and threatning the police officer. It's possible the suspect was fighting for the gun. I don't know & I'm not going to assume that. Either way...the police officer should have waited for backup and this wouldn't have happened.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 09:19 AM
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But still its a 14 year old kid, smack him and he'll cry like a b*tch, unless the kid was attacking the cop with a deadly weapon there is no reason to have shot him



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 09:19 AM
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I appologise, I was jumping the gun (so to speak) and i thought you were defending the cop. I see red with these subjects, and the mist can cloud my responses/what I'm responding to.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 09:20 AM
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No powder or powder burns on the kid, so he wasn't struggling for the gun, he was at some distance away when he was shot. A police officer should never fear a kid, unless he sees a weapon maybe, but he had no reason to believe the kid had any weapon. The kid was in a fistfight with a peer, and he fled when the cop arrived, so it was clear from the start that the kid was unarmed, and not a threat to police.

I don't think there is another side to this story. This is one of the few cases that is pretty clear the officer absolutely over-reacted, disobeyed orders, and murdered a kid.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by HawkeyeNation
I had a feeling the entire story was not being told in the OP's post. Nothing was mentioned of the kid resisiting arrest and threatning the police officer. It's possible the suspect was fighting for the gun. I don't know & I'm not going to assume that. Either way...the police officer should have waited for backup and this wouldn't have happened.
You need to read the post where the subsequent investigation found "No powder residue" on the shirt of the youth or on the clothing of the police officer.

This indicates that the youth.... (READ 14 YEAR OLD BOY) was a considerable distance away from the officer when the shot that killed him was fired by the LEO. No struggle for the gun was taking place when he executed the boy.

Normally, police brutality threads like this ( and there are far too many of them ), a few cop lover/defenders show up to tell us how tough it is to be a cop and we should cut them a break. This one is bad enough that even the diehards aren't defending him.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 09:34 AM
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A 14-year old is not a kid, they are fully able to handle and shoot a gun, especially in that town where there is lots of crime, so police have to be carefull. This kid ran from the police, who teaches their kids to run from the police? I don't.

This cop had also shown lots of improper police work and should have been removed already.

Here are USA FBI Statistics

Homicide Offenders by Age

Under 14 14-17 18-24 25-34 35-49 50+
1976 107 1,903 6,379 6,204 3,714 2,045
1977 104 1,771 6,461 6,144 3,830 2,078
1978 125 1,709 6,879 6,389 3,905 1,975
1979 94 1,996 7,752 7,117 4,109 2,117
1980 111 2,087 8,841 8,349 4,722 2,091
1981 86 1,940 7,944 7,839 4,598 2,068
1982 94 1,734 7,432 7,531 4,234 1,854
1983 84 1,557 6,756 7,002 3,979 1,630
1984 73 1,359 6,459 6,927 3,808 1,711
1985 97 1,545 6,386 6,684 3,947 1,713
1986 98 1,851 6,911 7,422 4,229 1,667
1987 118 1,867 6,979 6,957 4,114 1,669
1988 106 2,421 7,550 7,021 4,121 1,613
1989 129 2,638 8,382 7,110 4,002 1,448
1990 100 3,428 9,693 7,521 4,241 1,482
1991 142 3,777 11,250 7,717 4,005 1,377
1992 150 3,827 10,255 6,975 3,954 1,388
1993 168 4,320 11,186 6,656 3,888 1,420
1994 209 4,384 10,525 6,295 3,868 1,208
1995 151 3,653 9,605 5,786 3,762 1,254
1996 99 3,126 9,242 5,259 3,520 1,164
1997 106 2,677 8,403 4,998 3,256 1,164
1998 105 2,133 7,885 4,789 3,322 1,087
1999 91 1,736 7,202 4,259 3,015 1,099
2000 73 1,533 7,416 4,491 3,145 1,083
2001 52 1,512 7,705 4,660 3,192 1,045
2002 66 1,477 7,450 4,880 3,282 1,093
2003 79 1,474 7,523 4,816 3,368 1,155
2004 83 1,546 7,230 4,753 3,380 1,216
2005 60 1,612 7,714 5,116 3,410 1,216
Source: FBI, Supplementary Homicide Reports, 1976-2005.





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