reply to post by SLAYER69
Hi, Slayer69, thanks for the opportunity to spew.
Get your spew-shields on ATSers..
The Alpha and The Omega; We are
So I can't honestly hate them (TPTB); I is them.
I would like to be as honest as possible with this post with no intention of being right or wrong; when I honestly assess myself I can come to no
other conclusion; I am the source of all suffering.
Anyone trying to understand that please refer to The Stanford Prison Experiment, for starters. Maybe Siddhartha for enders.
What do they and others [still to be mentioned] all have in common?
The obvious thing that they seem to have in common to me is the mutual need for some target for their hate. I don't know what else to add that is
constructive. Maybe this: I am learning about ancient Greece. It is actually a little stunning to realize that we know next to nothing about how these
people lived their daily lives. I have to say that what little we do know reinforces my belief that people just have not changed at all. In fact I
think that is one of the great lies that we consume by consensus; that we are different somehow from 'the ancients'.
Anywho, one thing we know is that they lived in Phratries (Greek word). This means that they did not live in little nuclear families like we do but in
large, loosely related groups that usually had some historical claim to a god or hero as an ancestor. In other words tribes. We also know from
fragmentary legal texts that citizens claimed citizenship not based on patrilineage or matrilineage but upon inclusion in a phratry's religious
That means that if you were not a practicing something or other (Zeus cult, Hera cult, whatever) you did not eat and did not belong in society.
That's crazy thinking to us, isn't it. But I can't help think that some similar societal force is at work that creates this intense need to kill
one another over religious differences.
"Solutions? We don't need no stinking solutions."
Mahatma Ghandi (Just Kidding)
Well, my solution is probably going to upset people.
When the time comes and all opposites under the sun have been reconciled*.
We do Nothing
We simply do not participate. Non-participation, weaponized.
We weaponize Nothing. And then deploy it.
Take no shape and you provide no target.
One does not turn the other cheek to express submission. One turns the other cheek so 'They' have to look you in the eye as they raise the other
hand. Our Humanity will get the work done.
That being said, my solution might not be for those that are overly fond of their meat wagons.
I am so sorry that I don't have any real suggestions for what we might replace our current system with. In a nutshell: If we are at a place where
society can maintain Real Civilization (not the barbarism that we have been told is civilization; or rather that we, by consent, agree
civilization) then I say we seek out the world's best candidates for a balanced group of Philosopher Kings ala Plato.
This guy would have been an easy no-brainer, pick for my vote...
I would say that we are going to have to learn to trust one another again but somehow, I think if we get there, the trust will be implicit.
What kind of world do you want?
I have been asked this before, directly and indirectly over the years and my answer has changed, though the theme is probably consistent.
When I think about what I want the World to be like lately I think of this quote...
"Dogen studied with Master Rujing. One evening during the intensive summer training, in the first year of Pao-chang, 1225, Rujing shouted at a
disciple, “When you study under a master, you must drop the body and mind. What is the use of single-minded intense sleeping!?”
Sitting right beside this monastic, Dogen suddenly attained great enlightenment. Immediately, he went up to the abbot’s room and burned incense.
Rujing said, “Why are you burning incense?” Dogen said, “Body and mind have been dropped off.”
“Body and mind dropped off. The dropped-off body and mind.”
“This may only be a temporary ability. Please don’t approve me arbitrarily.”
Rujing said, “I am not.”
Dogen said, “What is that which isn’t given arbitrary approval?”
Rujing said, “Body and mind dropped off.”
Rujing said, “The dropping off is dropped.”
That is my wish for a future world; that the dropping is dropped. It seems to me that the very first and the very last thing we must do is drop the