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Originally posted by gentledissident
I'd like to know who started this dumbing down. It seems to have started with the schools and the media. It seems the people perpetuated it by demanding less mental stimulation. Somewhere along the line, the "work ethic" was promoted as god. If we thought the job market was full of useless jobs, we were lazy communists. Country music, patriotism, and religion bloomed. We were masterfully programmed us to make us want to fight for our slavery.
Originally posted by clearmind
i belive it is a purposefull dumbing down of society..keep the masses too busy to be concernd about the world, learning useless skill sets that only pertain to thier individual jobs and have no real use outside of that job...........
Originally posted by BeyondPerception
Does Obama even know how to create a job?...
You need to start a business first.
The focus should be on helping start-ups and entrepreneurs.
Originally posted by doobydoll
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by doobydoll
People like you make me sick, with your higher than mighty attitude to people out of work and trying to live. You're just pissed off because you aren't able to live without cars, holidays, and top-of-the-range rubbish you think you need.
You tend to presume an awful lot, dear. Did you see my car, and what it "top-of-the range" stuff in my house? Did you? How do you know my employment history, whether or not I worked on a farm when I was 14, and a bazillion other things that you have no way of knowing?
So go ahead and pat yourself on the back for getting into subsidized housing and enjoying your newly found freedom, while feeling "sick" when looking at people who actually work.
Let me tell you something, dear. I don't really give a rat's poont what you may or may not have.
You come across to be under the impression that people who suddenly find themselves unemployed are all scrounging scumbags who should be left to starve with nowhere to live.
I have worked all my adult life in various jobs to make a living for me and my kids.
What took a lifetime to earn - my home, my savings, was all took away from me in 6 months once I lost my job. The evidence of a lifetime of work, ALL gone in just 6 months.
My home was repo'd last month, I had no savings
Originally posted by romanmel
He and a friend took off on a cross country trip in a junker car. They had $13 between them. They had a syphon hose in the trunk for "emergencies" when the gas ran low. They slept in the car. They also picked up hitch-hikers and hit them up for gas money.
When the $13 ran out they decided to get food and a shower by going to the Salvation Army in each town on the way. This required that they "get saved" several times though.
When they got near to the end of the trip the cars tranny gave out in the mountains and they pushed it over a cliff and hitch-hiked the rest of the way.
With a little planning and some moxy, all things are possible.
Originally posted by CaptChaos
You are all retarded.
Originally posted by doctornamtab
Yeah we need jobs. As much as we need a prison sentence. I hate jobs. Not just my job - its actually pretty sweet. But the effect of the job itself is what makes jobs such an awful nuisance to modern man.
Originally posted by geryon
If you want to go live off the land just go do it, no one is stopping you. For most people that existence is not enough though. I believe most people want modern conveniences and nice things but just don't want to have to work for it, me either but until that system comes I will do what it takes to have the lifestyle i want. And I don't think its fair that I have to pay for those that won't.edit on 14-9-2011 by geryon because: add
Originally posted by doobydoll
reply to post by doctornamtab
Fabulous post - S&F
I was fired from my job in January because my car broke down, and I needed a car to actually do the job, I was a delivery driver. I am 53 and no matter what job I applied for I never even got any response from any of them. My home was repo'd last month, I had no savings, but I did have an occupational pension of £360 per month which I became entitled to when my late husband died over 20 years ago.
Surely, I thought, one cannot live on £360 per month, can they? I had to try.
I contacted my local authority to ask for social housing and related my predicament, only to be told I wasn't priority (immigrants and single mums are priority) and I would have to rent privately. I approached my MP who wrote a letter to the local housing authority to support me, and I also contacted the local press, all this placed pressure on the housing authority to help me. After 6 weeks of my badgering them through one way or another I was at last offered a home.
I pay minimal rent, minimal council tax, I buy cheaper brand food and never buy more than I need, I am careful with how I use gas and electricity, I don't ever go out socialising, but guess what? I am living on £360 per month! Ok I don't have luxuries, but I have found I can live without them. I don't need a car - I have legs that work just fine. I don't need a new TV - the old one shows the same TV prog's as a new one would. I don't need luxury, fancy food to survive - I don't starve without these things. That is all they are, just THINGS. I walk my dog more often than I used to in order to get out of the house - my dog and I are much healthier getting out in the fresh air several times a day.
All this I benefit from since I lost my job, and instead of wallowing in self-pity and feeling like life isn't worth living just because I cannot buy things, I have found my life is much more relaxed and slower, and I have begun to appreciate the things in life that money cannot buy - life, love and nature.
There IS a life without the things you don't need.
I am happy living a simple life - and it feels great to be off the treadmill.
The concept of nobody having to work for their survival is appealing initially, but the truth is that it's physically impossible without having someone (or something) else do all the work for you. You can currently achieve this goal by either winning the lottery, or working your a$$ off to get rich while you're still young enough to enjoy the freedom that money has to offer.
Originally posted by hundredreas0ns
reply to post by starsyren
i totally agree with you. i feel stuck too, how do we get out of this ? ive been looking into an off the grid community project for some time now, but still seems like you need money to get started, what can we do, so we dont have to rely on money anymore, and can still provide for ourselves ? im always looking for a way around this, would love to get myself a nice piece of land to get started, but once again i need quite a bit of money to do this, and i cant seem to get it. now what ? lol